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What's intriguing about this pic is the presence of reddish brown fumes.

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These fumes originate due to incomplete combustion of N2O4 which acts as an oxider and UDMH which is the actual fuel in liquid rocket motors utilising biprop hypergolic propellants. So, a liquid fuelled missile must have been launched prior to this.

Now here's, the NOTAM.

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According to this, the most likely course of action is the target missile getting launched from A Kalam Island and the AAD interceptor onboard A41 being launched later to intercept it in a direct head on or in a closing aspect engagement.

Why would someone launch the target missile and int from the same ship? Will Ashwin intercept the target missile while it's coming down towards the sea afterwards following a highly lofted trajectory ?

Why would anyone want a BMD interceptor to intercept a target ballistic missile frok the rear aspect wherein the int have to race against the target and need to catch it. Besides, this scenario will never happen since in our case, all the ballistic missiles will be launched from either Pakistan of mainland China from the east or from TAR fo the north. It can also be SLBM launched anywhere from South China sea, Bay of Bengal and Indian Ocean.


We generally use modified custom built Prithvi missiles as targets. They carry more propellants than regular Prithvi for a greater burn time and hence higher velocity at burnout in order to simulate longer ranging TBM and MRBM. Sometimes, two stage Prithvis with a solid second stage is also used as target missile.
 

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Kalyani signed with the bulgarians for their aks ?
Yup, it's been almost 3 years since they have signed a JV with Arsenal JSCo for assault rifles and machine guns.
what's the rifle he has his hand on?
That's F90, a modernized version of Steyr AUG made by Thales. And anti-climacticly, they signed a JV with Thales in 2018 for these.

That sniper is an Orsis T-5000; Russian
 

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What's intriguing about this pic is the presence of reddish brown fumes.

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These fumes originate due to incomplete combustion of N2O4 which acts as an oxider and UDMH which is the actual fuel in liquid rocket motors utilising biprop hypergolic propellants. So, a liquid fuelled missile must have been launched prior to this.

Now here's, the NOTAM.

View attachment 201685

According to this, the most likely course of action is the target missile getting launched from A Kalam Island and the AAD interceptor onboard A41 being launched later to intercept it in a direct head on or in a closing aspect engagement.

Why would someone launch the target missile and int from the same ship? Will Ashwin intercept the target missile while it's coming down towards the sea afterwards following a highly lofted trajectory ?

Why would anyone want a BMD interceptor to intercept a target ballistic missile frok the rear aspect wherein the int have to race against the target and need to catch it. Besides, this scenario will never happen since in our case, all the ballistic missiles will be launched from either Pakistan of mainland China from the east or from TAR fo the north. It can also be SLBM launched anywhere from South China sea, Bay of Bengal and Indian Ocean.


We generally use modified custom built Prithvi missiles as targets. They carry more propellants than regular Prithvi for a greater burn time and hence higher velocity at burnout in order to simulate longer ranging TBM and MRBM. Sometimes, two stage Prithvis with a solid second stage is also used as target missile.
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then why the notam starting from A kalam island?...surely the chances of the missile going off course cant be similar to a missile being launched from the island
 

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I remember a certain engineer who could never satisfy his wife, so he built her a gigantic contraption with a electrically powered dildo, later that morning only her ass remained and all her body parts were gone. The dildo pushed too far.
There was even a song about this.
@Blood+ sir ji here is that song, found after some searching
@Lonewarrior
@shade
I told you all na that there was a song about a engineer who built a steam powered dildo for her wife.
 
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Interesting comments on Indian procurement system by former Singapore ambassador :

1.Mentions Indian procurement process is fucked up, that we all know. Says will be very hard to quickly move off Russian dependency until procurement process is fixed.
2. Says India's procurement process was deliberately made messed up with extra heavy involvement of clueless civilian bureaucrats since Nehru was scared of military coup.

 

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Nope

The missiles coming for aircrafts carriers or naval formations won't fly over northern mountains.
Flying from Tibet or other South west provinces is the shortest and safest route for these Chinese missiles, why they are bothered to send a navel fleet travelling thousands miles to put these missiles into the striking range?

The fact is: the aircraft carriers or whatever military ships are busy handling the world No.1 powerful navy sitting outside their doorway.
 

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They can still be effective at protecting coastal cities like Mumbai. Especially from Pakistani ballistic missiles.
Where do you think that Pakistan will set up their missile launch positions?

Well protected deep inland area?
or her coast which are within India navy striking force range?

If Pakistan is not stupid enough to choose the latter, then the trajectory of the missile will fly over India's land not sea.

Naval ABM is also still very useful for protecting against anti-ship ballistic missiles.
See, this is the question of how you use your limited resources to deal with unlimited challenge.
Yes, it is very useful for protecting against anti-ship ballistic missiles. The problems are:
1. What is the chance that Chinese navy fleet will come to challenge India in Indian Ocean within 20-30 years?
2. How effective these anti-ship allistic missiles will work in an area without intensive surveillant supporting system.

If you think of these 2 questions, you will find that the threat of Chinese missiles in Indian Ocean is very very low in next 20 years.
 

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Where do you think that Pakistan will set up their missile launch positions?

Well protected deep inland area?
or her coast which are within India navy striking force range?

If Pakistan is not stupid enough to choose the latter, then the trajectory of the missile will fly over India's land not sea.



See, this is the question of how you use your limited resources to deal with unlimited challenge.
Yes, it is very useful for protecting against anti-ship ballistic missiles. The problems are:
1. What is the chance that Chinese navy fleet will come to challenge India in Indian Ocean within 20-30 years?
2. How effective these anti-ship allistic missiles will work in an area without intensive surveillant supporting system.

If you think of these 2 questions, you will find that the threat of Chinese missiles in Indian Ocean is very very low in next 20 years.
Pakistan bases its ballistic missiles in balochistan.. the straight line path from there till peninsular India is over the sea. Same with any missile launched from yunan . Plus china has been working for ages on anti ship ballistic missiles .. best to get started on countering that threat now.
 

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Interesting comments on Indian procurement system by former Singapore ambassador :

1.Mentions Indian procurement process is fucked up, that we all know. Says will be very hard to quickly move off Russian dependency until procurement process is fixed.
2. Says India's procurement process was deliberately made messed up with extra heavy involvement of clueless civilian bureaucrats since Nehru was scared of military coup.

Konsi nayi baat hai...bachha bachha jaanta hai..
 

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Where do you think that Pakistan will set up their missile launch positions?

Well protected deep inland area?
or her coast which are within India navy striking force range?

If Pakistan is not stupid enough to choose the latter, then the trajectory of the missile will fly over India's land not sea.
Pakistan has the problem that it is a very narrow country with no strategic depth. There is really no protected in land area. If they placed it in the middle of the country it would only be around 250 km away from the Indian border. Even if they placed their missiles right on the Iran or Afghanistan border they would still only be around 500km away from India.
 

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What's intriguing about this pic is the presence of reddish brown fumes.

View attachment 201684

These fumes originate due to incomplete combustion of N2O4 which acts as an oxider and UDMH which is the actual fuel in liquid rocket motors utilising biprop hypergolic propellants. So, a liquid fuelled missile must have been launched prior to this.

Now here's, the NOTAM.

View attachment 201685

According to this, the most likely course of action is the target missile getting launched from A Kalam Island and the AAD interceptor onboard A41 being launched later to intercept it in a direct head on or in a closing aspect engagement.

Why would someone launch the target missile and int from the same ship? Will Ashwin intercept the target missile while it's coming down towards the sea afterwards following a highly lofted trajectory ?

Why would anyone want a BMD interceptor to intercept a target ballistic missile frok the rear aspect wherein the int have to race against the target and need to catch it. Besides, this scenario will never happen since in our case, all the ballistic missiles will be launched from either Pakistan of mainland China from the east or from TAR fo the north. It can also be SLBM launched anywhere from South China sea, Bay of Bengal and Indian Ocean.


We generally use modified custom built Prithvi missiles as targets. They carry more propellants than regular Prithvi for a greater burn time and hence higher velocity at burnout in order to simulate longer ranging TBM and MRBM. Sometimes, two stage Prithvis with a solid second stage is also used as target missile.
Meanwhile Rajat Pandit.

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“This is the first time that the terminal endo-atmospheric interceptor was tested from a ship against an `electronic target’.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ence-system/articleshow/99697459.cms?from=mdr
 

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