I also prefer Embraer C-390 Millenium over other choices but only problem is delivery rate is so slow, Embraer hasn't even be able to deliver full 20 order of Brazil yet then there are orders from the netherlands and so...under such realities i find it hard that they'll be able to fulfill our orders this big.
If they patner with someone like tata can deliveries be made on time then?
Was hoping Shiv would clarify before I commented and here we are:
Udna to isne aise bhi nai thaView attachment 193620
it's also annoying that these people are so careless in their handling that they are leaving out chemical stain (acetone ? turpentine ? benzene ? one of those paint and stain removers...) that's clearly visible like this on first ever promotional model of our so ambitious LIFT jet, 'blast from the past' design etc
now not only whole world will see the removal of 'Maruti' but they'll also see a big bloat there
good good, serves them right
this is only politically correct HLFT-42 that is acceptable for them
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i dare them to put this and later remove it and not face any consequences
This is the crux is the issue and why modernisation/mechanisation is at a snails pace in india, you cannot spend >50% of your entire budget on overhead costs and expect to improve
Waiting for communist anti-armed forces fanboys to justify this
keep on blaming IAF.
So you mean atm nirbhrta will eat us up?IAF has been made a complete fool by Modi govt. and (HAL + ADA) PSU ecosystem.
Meanwhile, China has rolled out more J-20s than we have Su-30MKIs. Pakistan with its beggar economy is almost reaching parity with us in air power. Our pilots have to fly widowmaker Mig-21s which will probably get shot down within the first 5 minutes of war if they don't crash due to malfunction.
- Even after IAF wailing for a decade, govt. buys only 36 jets.
- Tejas Mk1A starts manufacturing in 2024 (83 deliveries will take till 2028-29).
- Tejas Mk2 is nowhere in sight (no guarantee of more delays), and will tentatively enter production in 2028 (if everything goes correctly, and that is a big expectation).
- AMCA tentatively sometime in 2032 (if everything goes correctly, and that is a big expectation).
Great going
Atmanirbharta is a necessity. But this is just bad/criminal planning at the end of MoD and fake-promise-generator PSUs.
IAF isn't without its fault mk1a order and production rate has been agreed upon by IAF for more than that order volume needs to be bigger.IAF has been made a complete fool by Modi govt. and (HAL + ADA) PSU ecosystem.
Meanwhile, China has rolled out more J-20s than we have Su-30MKIs. Pakistan with its beggar economy is almost reaching parity with us in air power. Our pilots have to fly widowmaker Mig-21s which will probably get shot down within the first 5 minutes of war if they don't crash due to malfunction.
- Even after IAF wailing for a decade, govt. buys only 36 jets.
- Tejas Mk1A starts manufacturing in 2024 (83 deliveries will take till 2028-29).
- Tejas Mk2 is nowhere in sight (no guarantee of more delays), and will tentatively enter production in 2028 (if everything goes correctly, and that is a big expectation).
- AMCA tentatively sometime in 2032 (if everything goes correctly, and that is a big expectation).
Great going
Iam going out to buy momos
It definitely is but won't be coming anytime soon..sigh
Nobody defending DRDO, PSUs and MOD. But Generals are very different when it's come to malaise. Atleast it's visible from DRDO part what is going on but do you have answers what are the parameters of taking decades of trials for weapons which has already been developed??Waiting for communist anti-armed forces fanboys to justify this
My prediction of their 1000 IQ argument -
- Completely avoiding the topic and blaming IAF for not ordering 10,000 more Tejas Mk1A. (Tu Quoque argument fallacy)
- Completely avoiding the topic and blaming IAF echelons to be part of Chandigarh lobby. (Tu Quoque argument fallacy)
- Saying this was expected and timelines are nothing to be upset about. (Appeal to authority argument fallacy)
- Claiming we don't need the air power anyway. (Grapes are sour argument fallacy)
- Claiming it is better to have home-grown jets in the next century than foreign jets now. (Black or white argument fallacy)
- Claiming I am a foreign agent/Chandigarh lobby (Ad hominem argument fallacy)
IAF chief is just parroting what timeline has been handed over to him. You expect him to bicker and talk shit behind the back of MoD and HAL ? Its not that IAF is happy or content with the timelines, it is what they have been made to accept by govt.
Nothing going to help UN Generals now. DRDO might have lost few years in development but notorious Generals has lost decades due to their incompetency.IAF has been made a complete fool by Modi govt. and (HAL + ADA) PSU ecosystem.
Meanwhile, China has rolled out more J-20s than we have Su-30MKIs. Pakistan with its beggar economy is almost reaching parity with us in air power. Our pilots have to fly widowmaker Mig-21s which will probably get shot down within the first 5 minutes of war if they don't crash due to malfunction.
- Even after IAF wailing for a decade, govt. buys only 36 jets.
- Tejas Mk1A starts manufacturing in 2024 (83 deliveries will take till 2028-29).
- Tejas Mk2 is nowhere in sight (no guarantee of more delays), and will tentatively enter production in 2028 (if everything goes correctly, and that is a big expectation).
- AMCA tentatively sometime in 2032 (if everything goes correctly, and that is a big expectation).
Great going
