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[Tuco]

and what about Solar group hackathon...

Nothing, no press briefing, not even a squeak. So not sure whether what was taken was so trivial, hence not warrants an explanation or it was so critical they do know what to say.

 

[Lonewarrior]

What could be the logic.
Chillar batorne ki aadat hai kya planners ko.

Good question

First lemme answer the obvious; why 13908?
Because the are planning to issue three magazines per 4636 handguns; one in gun and two spares. [4636 x 3 = 13908]

Now coming to 4636.
It solely depends on whom they are planning to issue. Is it one pistol per fire team or six pistol per company or any other composition.

 

[flanker99]

Nothing, no press briefing, not even a squeak. So not sure whether what was taken was so trivial, hence not warrants an explanation or it was so critical they do know what to say.

It was buried not reported by a single msm so could be something critical

 

[STORE]

German Infantry fighting vehicle to be offered in response to Indian Army’s FICV – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

 

[Kuldeepm952]

I agree but there are more important things to be developed in small arms than these "assault rifle" things at this stage,
they recently floated 9mm pistol tender, have these people ever tried to make a proper thoroughly modernised version of Browning Hi-Power let aside Glock-styled polymer framed striker fired pistols etc?
what about 7.62 NATO DMR that IA once wanted to get to replace SVD and so, then they should be developing our own version of chinese LG5 automatic portable grenade launcher style weapon (yeah yeah we have AGS-30 but it's somewhat bulky and not as portable and doesn't seem to have digital optical sight and things that that "sniper grenade launcher" have) and what not...

this constant 'reinventing the wheel' moments just doesn't make sense to me

Agree but then you have to have some other company/institute/organisation doing that if not the ARDE. Lack of other proper alternative to rely on is problematic.

The way I see it is that if you don't keep your indigenous industry/orgs up and doin lg something, sooner or later they will die and you come back again full circle depending on videshi maal.
Just look at french and British small arms industry, a shadow of their former self, it's such a shame that their present rifles, lmgs, gpmgs, dmrs, you name it is mostly of foreign origin. Only perhaps sniper rifles are the only things which they still own of their own origin.
For countries such as us and above, not having self designed small arms is really a matter of shame and shows how much the whole system has been taken for a ride and not supported. Any kind of support to new starting companies can mitigate this but then they all want PrOVen system in Mars trial pre tested and unable to grow a system themselves.

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Hoping for large orders.... meanwhile Import Army - "that's right, keep hoping and coping .. here's some copium btw .."

What would happen if promotions are tied to induction of indigenous weapons and platforms, just a thought?

 

[Gyyan]

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

German Infantry fighting vehicle to be offered in response to Indian Army’s FICV – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

German IFVs are trash, Marder is outdated and poor in offense, Puma fails the "Infantry" part of IFV.

 

[Johny_Baba]

fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me

Agar itna hi joint 5th gen banana hota toh PAK FA konsa bura thaa, they can keep it to themselves

 

[vishnugupt]

2 different paths of trials for almost same missile

Indian Navy:- VL- SRSAM first fired in 2019 (2021 if I'm wrong ) and inducted in Navy after 4th trial in 2022. Navy was involved in program from each and every aspect.
Zero negative media reporting regarding missile

Indian Army:- QR-SAM was first tested in 2017 and still in trials. All trials were going well until 2022 when during last test, missile was found short in all area including range, target acquisition, mobility, accuracy, engagement.
Now missile sent to drawing board again.
Indian Army came into picture only at last step.
Full of negative media reporting.

UN Generals can't buy imported mall due to to Pandemic and Ukraine -Russia war.!!!

In short, UN Generals can't even beg door to door for our own security during emergency. Imagine how dependent we have become?

Still UN Generals cry for shiny toys day in and day out like cry baby.

Sometimes, I even wonder whether our UN Generals possess pair of eyes or not?. Forget about being visionary, strategic thinker, military planner these qualities are simply impossible for them.

I think blindness is prime requirement to be a UN General.

QRSAM completed all Trials, Order soon: BEL CMD – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Looks like no other country wants amca to succeed

 

[DumbPilot]

Looks like no other country wants amca to succeed

We must be on the right track, then

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

Looks like no other country wants amca to succeed

Ask the Russians to give complete joint ownership of IP of radar radome
Most importantly engine
Then india can join let's see if these guys compromise

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

UN Generals can't buy imported mall due to to Pandemic and Ukraine -Russia war.!!!

In short, UN Generals can't even beg door to door for our own security during emergency. Imagine how dependent we have become?

Still UN Generals cry for shiny toys day in and day out like cry baby.

Sometimes, I even wonder whether our UN Generals possess pair of eyes or not?. Forget about being visionary, strategic thinker, military planner these qualities are simply impossible for them.

I think blindness is prime requirement to be a UN General.

QRSAM completed all Trials, Order soon: BEL CMD – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

Let's be honest. If a war breaks out we will still be using human wave tactics. Was the same in Kargil.

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Let's be honest. If a war breaks out we will still be using human wave tactics. Was the same in Kargil.

Gotta question where you are probably wrong on this?
But was it really human waves though, artillery was used aptly, even IAF did with what it has at time, basic infantry tactics of fire and maneuver were used.

So you gotta clear yourself bro what could have been done differently given that none army other than USA had high tech sh*t like predator drones and desert load of LGBs, not even China or Russia.

I doubt anything much could have been done there but now time is different and much can be done today, so is todays IA capable of using that advantage is the real question?

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

Gotta question where you are probably wrong on this?
But was it really human waves though, artillery was used aptly, even IAF did with what it has at time, basic infantry tactics of fire and maneuver were used.

So you gotta clear yourself bro what could have been done differently given that none army other than USA had high tech sh*t like predator drones and desert load of LGBs, not even China or Russia.

I doubt anything much could have been done there but now time is different and much can be done today, so is todays IA capable of using that advantage is the real question?

IAF didn't even know there were incursions at the beginning. even after understanding the situation army was hesitant to use airpower that much.

I doubt anything much could have been done there

Much could have been done like letting the AF take the lead once they realized the situation.

is todays IA capable of using that advantage is the real question?

Definitely the real question. Don't even have good expeditionary capability or well established offensive capability even after 75yrs of independence. IA logistics is incapable of supporting its combat arms after a short distance from the border.

 

[jai jaganath]

Gotta question where you are probably wrong on this?
But was it really human waves though, artillery was used aptly, even IAF did with what it has at time, basic infantry tactics of fire and maneuver were used.

So you gotta clear yourself bro what could have been done differently given that none army other than USA had high tech sh*t like predator drones and desert load of LGBs, not even China or Russia.

I doubt anything much could have been done there but now time is different and much can be done today, so is todays IA capable of using that advantage is the real question?

I have question if such situation occurs today then what will be our reaction type
I believe it won't be much different from what we did in 1999

 

[Lonewarrior]

I have question if such situation occurs today then what will be our reaction type
I believe it won't be much different from what we did in 1999

1. Deny 2. Procrastinate 3. Deny 4. Blame opposition/LW/US
5. Reconnaissance
6. Precision bombing
7. SF operations

 

[DumbPilot]

1. Deny 2. Procrastinate 3. Deny 4. Blame opposition/LW/US
5. Reconnaissance
6. Precision bombing
7. SF operations

Why aren't we moving direct to stage 5?

 

[Lonewarrior]

Why aren't we moving direct to stage 5?

Because in India we have more [first half of your own name] than [second half of your own name]