DRDO, PSU and Private Defence Sector News

[Steven Rogers]

Drdo turboprop for Rustom 2.

Sent from my Aqua Ace II using Tapatalk

 

[porky_kicker]

Kalyani ECARS (Enhanced Collaborative Autonomous System) amphibious, autonomous multi-task platform.

 

[porky_kicker]

Mahindra RWS

It is equipped with a compact optics suite with a CCD day camera, thermal imager and laser range finder.

 

[porky_kicker]

SRG’s 3D shooting trainer prototype

 

[Enquirer]

Defexpo2018 is just getting better an better

Putting this in perspective:
Predator drone (that's actually armed with Hellfire missiles) is powered by a single 115 hp engine!
Now Rustom II will purportedly be powered by 2x180hp engines. That's a whopping 360 hp thrust!

It would be a total shame if Rustom II still cannot carry any weapons, because its frame/structure is already overweight!!

Predator drone has an empty weight of 0.5 tonne; while Rustom II empty weight is close to 2 tonnes!! They're still working on slimming it down!!!

 

[soikot banerjee]

Putting this in perspective:
Predator drone (that's actually armed with Hellfire missiles) is powered by a single 115 hp engine!
Now Rustom II will purportedly be powered by 2x180hp engines. That's a whopping 360 hp thrust!

It would be a total shame if Rustom II still cannot carry any weapons, because its frame/structure is already overweight!!

Predator drone has an empty weight of 0.5 tonne; while Rustom II empty weight is close to 2 tonnes!! They're still working on slimming it down!!!

It won't be that way.
When Rustom 1 has Helina on it

Then I am pretty sure keeping in mind the scale and power of Rustom 2, it will have SANT missile on it sooner or later.
The span of the wing, reduction of weight, inclusion of incredibly high power engines(keeping in mind UAVs)
Only shows the door is being opened for weaponisation and nothing else. DRDO denies this fact so as to save it's a$$ from unwanted attention of MTCR, China and Pak. Rest assured Rustom-2 will end up being an UCAV not UAV!

 

[Enquirer]

It won't be that way.
When Rustom 1 has Helina on it

Then I am pretty sure keeping in mind the scale and power of Rustom 2, it will have SANT missile on it sooner or later.
The span of the wing, reduction of weight, inclusion of incredibly high power engines(keeping in mind UAVs)
Only shows the door is being opened for weaponisation and nothing else. DRDO denies this fact so as to save it's a$$ from unwanted attention of MTCR, China and Pak. Rest assured Rustom-2 will end up being an UCAV not UAV!

Firstly that pic of Helina on Rustom 1 was just for display! It was neither ‘integrated’ with the system nor did it ever take flight!!

Eventually Rustom II should be armed, but that cannot happen unless it sheds a lot of weight in the current design OR unless they complete the new design (slated to start soon) to have a single rear engine (like all other successful drones in the world)

 

[Kshithij]

Putting this in perspective:
Predator drone (that's actually armed with Hellfire missiles) is powered by a single 115 hp engine!
Now Rustom II will purportedly be powered by 2x180hp engines. That's a whopping 360 hp thrust!

It would be a total shame if Rustom II still cannot carry any weapons, because its frame/structure is already overweight!!

Predator drone has an empty weight of 0.5 tonne; while Rustom II empty weight is close to 2 tonnes!! They're still working on slimming it down!!!

Rustom-2 or Tapas BH-201 drone has 1.8ton empty weight which includes several sensors like SAR radar (AESA radar) and some sensors. It is a high end surveillance drone with additional ability to hold payloads and arms.

The heavy weight of Tapas is not because of poor design but because of the load of sensors present inside. Tapas can have 1ton of fuel inside for extended operation in addition to 350kg payload. A Helina weighs 42kg and it is possible to fit 8 Helina or 4-6 SANT missiles on Tapas.

Tapas is not overweight. It has 360hp motors for a reason. Tapas is a high end surveillance cum attack UAV.

 

[porky_kicker]

Interesting first time seeing a EOTS pod on the nose , it's location is unique inclined to the right.

Also shown is retractable IFR

 

[darshan978]

Putting this in perspective:
Predator drone (that's actually armed with Hellfire missiles) is powered by a single 115 hp engine!
Now Rustom II will purportedly be powered by 2x180hp engines. That's a whopping 360 hp thrust!

It would be a total shame if Rustom II still cannot carry any weapons, because its frame/structure is already overweight!!

Predator drone has an empty weight of 0.5 tonne; while Rustom II empty weight is close to 2 tonnes!! They're still working on slimming it down!!!

i would never compare MQ-1 drone with heavy drone like rustom2 .our rustom 2 should be compared with MQ-9 which has weight of 2200kg with 900hp turboprop engine

 

[Enquirer]

i would never compare MQ-1 drone with heavy drone like rustom2 .our rustom 2 should be compared with MQ-9 which has weight of 2200kg with 900hp turboprop engine

Comparisons should not be made on deadweight but on capabilities and performance.
Despite the empty weight of Rustom 2 being on par with MQ 9, it’s still struggling to deliver the capabilities of MQ 1!!

 

[Enquirer]

Rustom-2 or Tapas BH-201 drone has 1.8ton empty weight which includes several sensors like SAR radar (AESA radar) and some sensors. It is a high end surveillance drone with additional ability to hold payloads and arms.

The heavy weight of Tapas is not because of poor design but because of the load of sensors present inside. Tapas can have 1ton of fuel inside for extended operation in addition to 350kg payload. A Helina weighs 42kg and it is possible to fit 8 Helina or 4-6 SANT missiles on Tapas.

Tapas is not overweight. It has 360hp motors for a reason. Tapas is a high end surveillance cum attack UAV.

I won’t do the math again for you. But calculate the thrust/weight ratio of the two! &the fuel economy! Also th extra hp with new engines comes with extra 200-250kg weight!
It’s not just ability to take off with some load - but the ability to stay in flight for 24+ hours.
Despite what u think, the scientists know they fucked up - the twin engines on wings causes too much drag. The decision to scrap current design has already been made ( tests are only for data links and autonomous flight). Single rear engine design effort to start very soon.

 

[ash2win]

Rustom-2 or Tapas BH-201 drone has 1.8ton empty weight which includes several sensors like SAR radar (AESA radar) and some sensors. It is a high end surveillance drone with additional ability to hold payloads and arms.

The heavy weight of Tapas is not because of poor design but because of the load of sensors present inside. Tapas can have 1ton of fuel inside for extended operation in addition to 350kg payload. A Helina weighs 42kg and it is possible to fit 8 Helina or 4-6 SANT missiles on Tapas.

Tapas is not overweight. It has 360hp motors for a reason. Tapas is a high end surveillance cum attack UAV.

1.8 ton was design weight and current prototypes are ~800 kg heavier. Update yourself before daydreaming about putting 8 helina on a surveillance UAV.

 

[proud_indian]

India Is In Advance Stage of Mastering Electro Magnetic Rail Gun (EMRG) Technology: DRDO Scientist

 

[Kshithij]

1.8 ton was design weight and current prototypes are ~800 kg heavier. Update yourself before daydreaming about putting 8 helina on a surveillance UAV.

Where is the source that empty weight is 2.6tonnes?

 

[rone]

The single engine twin boom configuration ucav will be India's next medium altitude ucav ,the design will be similar heron but it will more look like cross bw Rustom frontals and herons rear sections

 

[Kshithij]

The single engine twin boom configuration ucav will be India's next medium altitude ucav ,the design will be simpler heron but it will more look like cross be Rustom frontals and herons rear side

Isn't India developing a stealth UCAV AURA next?

 

[rone]

Isn't India developing a stealth UCAV AURA next?

Aura ucav still on design pahse, as like success of amca depends directly on it, because aura is meant to be stealthy so the tech used on it must be fully mature, as of now in current State aura won't see blue sky in next 5yr but the single engine ucav will more likely to happen in 3 yr format, along with Rustom there was an single engine design but it neglected becoz of copy or similarity with existing ucav, this is why they choose double engine for stand out desgin and high redundancy performance nature UAV but it turns out to be blunder when it came it's operational effectiveness,thus they decided to use what ever valuable data get from this UAV on upcoming single engine ucav, anyway it was wise move

 

[Steven Rogers]

Aura ucav still on design pahse, as like success of amca depends directly on it, because aura is meant to be stealthy so the tech used on it must be fully mature, as of now in current State aura won't see blue sky in next 5yr but the single engine ucav will more likely to happen in 3 yr format, along with Rustom there was an single engine design but it neglected becoz of copy or similarity with existing ucav, this is why they choose double engine for stand out desgin and high redundancy performance nature UAV but it turns out to be blunder when it came it's operational effectiveness,thus they decided to use what ever valuable data get from this UAV on upcoming single engine ucav, anyway it was wise move

Aura success depends on SWiFT

Sent from my Aqua Ace II using Tapatalk

 

[Kshithij]

Aura ucav still on design pahse, as like success of amca depends directly on it, because aura is meant to be stealthy so the tech used on it must be fully mature, as of now in current State aura won't see blue sky in next 5yr but the single engine ucav will more likely to happen in 3 yr format, along with Rustom there was an single engine design but it neglected becoz of copy or similarity with existing ucav, this is why they choose double engine for stand out desgin and high redundancy performance nature UAV but it turns out to be blunder when it came it's operational effectiveness,thus they decided to use what ever valuable data get from this UAV on upcoming single engine ucav, anyway it was wise move

What exactly is wrong with Tapas that makes its operational effectiveness bad? What blunder? As far as I see, there is no way of getting lower weight with the SAR AESA radar, sensors embedded in it. The empty weight includes all of these. So, the additional payload is only for arms and missiles.

I see that the thrust to weight ratio of Predator MQ1 as 115HP/1020kg at MToW and for Tapas at 360HP/3200kg at MToW. The TWR is same for both. The fuel ratio of MQ1 predator to Tapas is 300/1000 kg which is also 30% of their weights. I see nothing wrong in Tapas to make it a blunder.

Who gave you these kind of false stories? If the drone was to be rejected, why would they showcase the engines in Defexpo?