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[factfigures]

RFI for 155mm/52 Calibre Towed Artillery Gun System is out now!

 

[Chinmoy]

Number of launchers?

It depends. It varies with system to system.

 

[Chinmoy]

RFI for 155mm/52 Calibre Towed Artillery Gun System is out now!

 

[Kuldeepm952]

So, the thing happened which I feared.
I think we should just hold a funeral for ATAGS at this point. Probably Bharat-52 can fill that role. But for god's sake why push that extra weight line crap in rfi when IA fully know the weight of ATAGS.
Apparently, a truck tank carrier can pull 50+ton k9 vajra right upto LAC but will fall flat if weight of howitzer gets increased from 15 to 18 tons ??
What type of mobility these guys require exactly.

Where are the people from IA who jointly gave specifications for ATAGS to DRDO? Time to axe them.

 

[kharabela]

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So, the thing happened which I feared.
I think we should just hold a funeral for ATAGS at this point. Probably Bharat-52 can fill that role. But for god's sake why push that extra weight line crap in rfi when IA fully know the weight of ATAGS.
Apparently, a truck tank carrier can pull 50+ton k9 vajra right upto LAC but will fall flat if weight of howitzer gets increased from 15 to 18 tons ??
What type of mobility these guys require exactly.

Where are the people from IA who jointly gave specifications for ATAGS to DRDO? Time to axe them.

Was there a weight reduction in ATAGS ? Have seen few twitter people claiming its 15/16 tons now . Also its says preferably . Not must be . May be 2 tons for extra 5/7 km range ll be adjusted .

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Was there a weight reduction in ATAGS ? Have seen few twitter people claiming its 15/16 tons now . Also its says preferably . Not must be . May be 2 tons for extra 5/7 km range ll be adjusted .

Nah, that was just a talk in air that by using titanium at various places in ATAGS weight can be reduced but that would drive up the cost.

The funny thing is ATAGS cleared all trials with its original weight with little to no problems including mobility trials and yet IA floats a RFI for artillery gun with less weight for mobility purpose.

IA to logic

 

[Kuldeepm952]

To older members as I understand RFI is basically asking for specs of products the companies have following which a RFP is formulated and as I believe requirements of RFP can be different from RFI?? But in this case a probable clause that a less than 15 ton article is preferred?
So any chance for ATAGS or

 

[Chinmoy]

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So, the thing happened which I feared.
I think we should just hold a funeral for ATAGS at this point. Probably Bharat-52 can fill that role. But for god's sake why push that extra weight line crap in rfi when IA fully know the weight of ATAGS.
Apparently, a truck tank carrier can pull 50+ton k9 vajra right upto LAC but will fall flat if weight of howitzer gets increased from 15 to 18 tons ??
What type of mobility these guys require exactly.

Where are the people from IA who jointly gave specifications for ATAGS to DRDO? Time to axe them.

And where is our Raj Kapoor "Baba Kalyani" who famously said that they could bring down the weight of ATAGS to 16 ton?

Moreover, its a RFI or IA is just asking for Information on any current system available. Based on its response, RFP would be released in February 2023. So this weight part has been accompanied with 'PREFERABLY'.

 

[Lonewarrior]

What's the weight of 52 calibre Dhanush?

 

[Chinmoy]

Apparently, a truck tank carrier can pull 50+ton k9 vajra right upto LAC but will fall flat if weight of howitzer gets increased from 15 to 18 tons ??
What type of mobility these guys require exactly.

Mobility at 16000 feet. Good luck towing a 50 ton K9 at that altitude.

 

[Chinmoy]

What's the weight of 52 calibre Dhanush?

Dhanush is 45 caliber and weighs 13 tons.

 

[another_armchair]

Indian forces acquiring 'Pralay' ballistic missile for striking targets at 150-500 Km

the Indian armed forces are now going to acquire the 'Pralay' ballistic missile which can hit targets from 150 to 500 Kms.

aninews.in

 

[Suryavanshi]

Indian forces acquiring 'Pralay' ballistic missile for striking targets at 150-500 Km

the Indian armed forces are now going to acquire the 'Pralay' ballistic missile which can hit targets from 150 to 500 Kms.

aninews.in

Counter to short range Chinese Ballistic Missile.
Any timeline as to when all the missiles will be fully integrated into service.

 

[another_armchair]

Counter to short range Chinese Ballistic Missile.
Any timeline as to when all the missiles will be fully integrated into service.

Negotiations on. Lets hope they don't drag on till 2024 General Elections.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Dhanush is 45 caliber and weighs 13 tons.

I thought that it would be easier to ask someone here than Google. Thank for your reply mate.

Anyways, I've found it

Defexpo 2022: India upgrades Dhanush towed guns

India's state-run Advanced Weapons and Equipment India Limited (AWEIL) has upgraded the Dhanush towed howitzers.

www.janes.com

 

[Suryavanshi]

And where is our Raj Kapoor "Baba Kalyani" who famously said that they could bring down the weight of ATAGS to 16 ton?

I think he implied in an interview to CNBC18 that they need orders to implement any further improvement.
His words more or less "We can further improve the weight by using titanium alloys later"

 

[mist_consecutive]

American MQ9B Combat Drones Set To Be Assembled In India

Tri-service procurement of world’s most advanced drones leveraged for transfer of niche technologies to DRDO, Chief of Naval Staff Admiral R Hari Kumar tells Vishal Thapar in an exclusive interview, , India-US Military Cooperation, MQ9B Sea Guardian, Sky Guardian, indian navy, Admiral R Hari...

www.businessworld.in

Seems like MQ-9 order is finalized, and we apparently negotiated a ToT aswell. 60% order will be locally assembled in India while the rest will be in fly-away condition delivered.

 

[kharabela]

I thought that it would be easier to ask someone here than Google. Thank for your reply mate.

Anyways, I've found it

Defexpo 2022: India upgrades Dhanush towed guns

India's state-run Advanced Weapons and Equipment India Limited (AWEIL) has upgraded the Dhanush towed howitzers.

www.janes.com

Their 45 caliber had received order of 114 guns 3/4 years back . But faced production quality issue . Delivery has not been completed as far as i know . 52 caliber is newly introduced . And might go through all kinds of testing .

 

[another_armchair]

Their 45 caliber had received order of 114 guns 3/4 years back . But faced production quality issue . Delivery has not been completed as far as i know . 52 caliber is newly introduced . And might go through all kinds of testing .

Doubt there were quality issues. Covid and lockdowns had wrecked the production cycle(some parts still being imported I guess).

Army expects to boost fire power with induction of artillery guns

The seventh regiment of the M777 is under way, and the induction of all 145 guns should be completed in the next few years, a defence source said

www.thehindu.com

One regiment of the indigenous Dhanush artillery systems, developed based on the Swedish Bofors guns, has been inducted and operationalised in high altitude area along the Northern Borders after extensive validation. By March 2023, the Army should receive 18 guns to form the second Dhanush regiment, the source said.

On the Sharang guns, the up-gunned 130mm artillery guns to 155mm, 45 calibre guns, three regiments have been operationalised so far with the 4th regiment in process. The order for up-gunning 300 guns is being executed by three difference DPSUs carved from the erstwhile Ordnance Factory Board.

“Three Sharang regiments are expected to be delivered per year and 15 artillery regiments are to be equipped with Sharang. So, it should be done in five years,” the source explained. The Army received the first Sharang gun in February 2020 and the entire process of acquiring these guns is expected to be completed in four years of time.

 

[kharabela]

Doubt there were quality issues. Covid and lockdowns had wrecked the production cycle(some parts still being imported I guess).

Army expects to boost fire power with induction of artillery guns

The seventh regiment of the M777 is under way, and the induction of all 145 guns should be completed in the next few years, a defence source said

www.thehindu.com

Why The Indian Army's Artillery Modernisation Plan Has Hit A Road Block

India's effort to push indigenisation in defence has been fairly successful when it comes to artillery guns. But, of late, India's artillery modernisation programme hasn't been making much progress. It appears to have hit a roadblock.

swarajyamag.com

The Ordnance Factory Board received a bulk production clearance from the army and the Defence Ministry for production of 114 Dhanush guns in 2019. However, by June 2021, only 12 of these guns had been delivered to the army, not enough even for the first regiment of 18 guns. In 2017, the Central Bureau of Investigation found that cheap Chinese parts passed off as 'Made in Germany' had been used in the gun.

production quality issue thing is from a print article

The Army had, in 2018, placed an initial order for 114 of the 155mm x 45mm Dhanush, manufactured by the Ordnance Factory Board’s Gun Carriage Factory (GCF) in Madhya Pradesh’s Jabalpur — now known as Advanced Weapons and Equipment India (AWE) Limited. However, the delivery was hit by production quality issues flagged by the force and hence needed fresh firing trials before being deployed fully.

Boost for indigenous firepower: ATAGS set for final trial, Dhanush clears fresh firing test

Dhanush needed fresh trials after Army flagged production quality issues. Advanced Towed Artillery Gun System was found to have 'inconsistency' in overall performance in trials last June.

theprint.in