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[Lonewarrior]

So the Agni5 can reach Britain now

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[ezsasa]

We already have the talent ecosystem and required academia . Best move forward is to privatize PSUs .

as far as MIC is concerned, these things flow top down, not bottom up.
sustained strategic intent at the top plays a bigger role than having talent. it's been a good revamp in past 4-5 years, now the focus should be on sustaining the effort atleast for another two decades at the top.

 

[kharabela]

Kizilelmas Indian equivalent would be the CATS warrior not the Ghatak.
Current status

Flight Testing Of India's 'Loyal Wingman' Warrior Drone To Begin By 2024: Report

HAL's Warrior is being developed to go into combat as a loyal wingman drone with existing manned fighter jets like LCA Tejas and Rafale of the IAF.A mock-up of the drone, which first emerged in 2019, found a place at HAL's pavilion at Aero India 2021.

swarajyamag.com

If they plan to fly it by 2024 they should roll it out next year . Fingers crossed

Kizlima takeoff weight is 6 tons . Cats warrior take off weight 2 tons and Ghatak ucav takeoff weight 15 tons as per open source information . Bigger version of cats warrior should be developed once present version becomes a successful project .

 

[karn]

Kizlima takeoff weight is 6 tons . Cats warrior take off weight 2 tons and Ghatak ucav takeoff weight 15 tons as per open source information . Bigger version of cats warrior should be developed once present version becomes a successful project .

The version of the cats in the picture is already obsolete .. The first version is implied to be heavier than the 2 ton. Besides I'm talking more about the function rather than MTOW.

 

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[DumbPilot]

What it'll replace is burden from pilots. Now every time the scramble alarm will sound these drones will take off. Remember we always had the concept of Ground-Controlled Interception; this drone will simply take that to new levels. Also if you look at it from the perspective of a loyal wingman then the payload will seem normal.

Ya it can't carry that much armament for ground attack but it can carry sufficient load to target high-value assets and air-defence system to make the sky safe for Akinci.

I find it dubious to claim so. Air to air is a LOT of workload, both task and intelligent decision making wise..

 

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[ezsasa]

DRDO section of Ministry of Defence year end review
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1. Major successful missile tests:

• Brahmos Extended Range Version: In May, India successfully fired the Extended Range Version of BrahMos Air Launched missile from Su-30 MKI fighter aircraft. The launch from the aircraft was as planned and the missile achieved a direct hit on the designated target in the Bay of Bengal region.
• Prithvi-II: A successful training launch of a Short-Range Ballistic Missile, Prithvi-II was carried out in June from the Integrated Test Range, Chandipur, Odisha. The missile is a proven system and is capable of striking targets with a very high degree of precision.
• Agni: India carried out a successful training launch of Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile, Agni-3 from APJ Abdul Kalam Island, Odisha in November. It was part of routine user training launches carried out under the aegis of the Strategic Forces Command. The launch was carried out for a predetermined range and validated all operational parameters of the system. Earlier, in June, a successful training launch Agni-4 was carried out. It, too, validated all operational parameters as also the reliability of the system. The successful test reaffirms India's policy of having a 'Credible Minimum Deterrence' Capability.
• Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile: INS Arihant carried out a successful launch of a Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile in October. The missile was tested to a predetermined range and impacted the target area in the Bay of Bengal with very high accuracy. All operational and technological parameters of the weapon system have been validated.
• Helina: In April, indigenously-developed helicopter launched Anti-Tank Guided Missile ‘HELINA’ was successfully flight tested twice at different high-altitude ranges as part of user validation trials. The flight-testswere jointly conducted by DRDO, Indian Army and Indian Air Force.The flight trials were conducted from an Advanced Light Helicopter and the missile was fired successfully engaging simulated tank target.
• Laser-Guided Anti-Tank Guided Missile: Indigenously-developed Laser-Guided Anti-Tank Guided Missile was successfully test-fired from Main Battle Tank Arjun by DRDO and Indian Army at KK Ranges with support of Armoured Corps Centre & School, Ahmednagar in June. In the test, the ATGM hit the bull’s eye with textbook precision and successfully defeated the target at minimum ranges. The all-indigenous ATGM employs a tandem High Explosive Anti-Tank (HEAT) warhead to defeat Explosive Reactive Armour (ERA) protected armoured vehicles.
• Naval Anti-Ship Missile: DRDO and Indian Navy successfully conducted maiden flight-test of indigenously-developed Naval Anti-Ship Missile launched from a Naval Helicopter from Integrated Test Range (ITR), Chandipur off the coast of Odisha in May.It was the first indigenous air launched anti-ship missile system for the Indian Navy.The missile followed the desired sea skimming trajectory and reached the designated target with high degree of accuracy, validating the control, guidance and mission algorithms. It employed many new technologies, including an indigenously developed launcher for the helicopter.
• Quick Reaction Surface to Air Missile: DRDO and Indian Army successfully completed six flight-tests of Quick Reaction Surface to Air Missile (QRSAM) system from ITR Chandipur off the Odisha coast. The flight tests were conducted as part of evaluation trials by the Indian Army. The flight-tests were carried out against high-speed aerial targets mimicking various types of threats to evaluate the capability of the weapon systems under different scenarios, including long range medium altitude, short range, high altitude manoeuvring target, low radar signature with receding & crossing target and salvo launch with two missiles fired in quick succession.
• Medium Range Surface-to-Air Missile: Medium Range Surface-to-Air Missile Army weapon system has once again proved its effectiveness as two missiles, during the flight tests, achieved direct hits against high speed aerial targets at Integrated Test Range, Chandipur off the coast of Odisha in March. The launches were carried out establishing the accuracy and reliability of the weapon system against targets covering the sea skimming and high altitude functionality within the envelope.
• Vertical Launch Short Range Surface-to-Air Missile: Vertical Launch Short Range Surface to Air Missile (VL-SRSAM) was successfully flight-tested by DRDO and Indian Navy from an Indian Naval Ship at ITR, Chandipur. The system will further strengthen the Indian Navy for neutralising various aerial threats at close ranges including sea-skimming targets.
• Phase-II Ballistic Missile Defence interceptor: DRDO conducted a successful maiden flight-test of Phase-II Ballistic Missile Defence interceptor AD-1missile with large kill altitude bracket from APJ Abdul Kalam Island off the coast of Odisha in November. The flight-test was carried out with participation of all BMD weapon system elements located at different geographical locations.The AD-1 is a long-range interceptor missile designed for both low exo-atmospheric and endo-atmospheric interception of long-range ballistic missiles as well as aircraft.
• Man Portable Anti-Tank Guided Missile: In January, DRDO successfully flight tested the final deliverable configuration of Man Portable Anti-Tank Guided Missile. The indigenously developed anti-tank missile is a low weight, fire & forget missile and is launched from a man portable launcher, integrated with thermal sight. The missile impacted the designated target and destroyed it.
• Autonomous Flying Wing Technology Demonstrator: Maiden flight of Autonomous Flying Wing Technology Demonstrator was carried out successfully by DRDO from the Aeronautical Test Range, Chitradurga, Karnataka in July. Operating in a fully autonomous mode, the aircraft exhibited a perfect flight, including take-off, way point navigation and a smooth touchdown.

The achievements of DRDO, other than the successful missile tests mentioned above, are as follows:

• New Generation Akash Missile (Akash-NG): The successful flight trial of New Generation Surface to Air Akash-NG Missile was conducted from a land-based platform with all weapon system elements such as Multifunction Radar, Command, Control & Communication System and launcher participating in deployment configuration. The missile successfully demonstrated high manoeuvrability required for neutralising fast and agile aerial threats.
• Akash Prime Missile: A new version of the Akash Missile ‘Akash Prime’ was successfully flight tested from ITR, Chandipur. It is equipped with an indigenous active Radio Frequency seeker for improved accuracy.
• Short Span Bridging System-10 m: The SSBS-10 m was inducted into Indian Army. It plays a crucial role of bridging the gaps as a single span providing a wide, fully decked roadway, ensuring faster movement of the troops.The system will help in quick movement of troops and enhance the mobilization of resources.
• Advanced Chaff Technology: The technology was developed by DRDO to safeguard the fighter aircraft of Indian Air Force against hostile radar threats and enemy missile attack.Chaff is a passive expendable electronic countermeasure technology used worldwide to protect naval ship from enemy’s radar and radio frequency missile seekers.
• Long-Range Bomb: DRDO and IAF successfully flight-tested indigenously developed Long-Range Bomb from an aerial platform. The Bomb, after release from the IAF fighter aircraft, guided to a land-based target at a long range with accuracy within specified limits.
• ABHYAS: The High-speed Expendable Aerial Targetwas successfully flight-tested from ITR, Chandipur. ABHYAS can be used as an aerial target for evaluation of various missile systems. This indigenous target aircraft, once developed, will meet the requirements of High-speed Expendable Aerial Targets.
• Smart Anti-Airfield Weapon: Two successful flight tests of indigenously-developed Smart Anti-Airfield Weapon (SAAW) was carried out jointly by DRDO and IAF at Chandan ranges at Jaisalmer, Rajasthan. DRDO has indigenously designed and developed SAAW capable of engaging ground enemy airfield assets such as radars, bunkers, taxi tracks, and runways etc. The high precision guided bomb is light weight as compared to weapon system of the same class.
• Pralay: The maiden flight test of indigenously developed surface-to-surface missile ‘Pralay’ was successfully conducted by DRDO from Dr APJ Abdul Kalam Island. The missile can be launched from a mobile launcher. This was a new generation missile equipped with modern technologies and induction of this weapon system will give necessary impetus to the Armed Forces.
• Supersonic Missile assisted Torpedo System: DRDO developed supersonic missile assisted torpedo (SMART) system was successfully launched from Wheeler Island in Odisha. The system is a next generation missile-based standoff torpedo delivery system. It has been designed to enhance anti-submarine warfare capability far beyond the conventional range of the torpedo. The system will further enhance the strength of our Navy and promote self-reliance in defence, harnessing of expertise and capabilities.
• Stand-Off Anti-Tank Missile: DRDO and IAF flight-tested the indigenously designed and developed Helicopter launched Stand-off Anti-tank (SANT) Missile from Pokhran ranges. The missile is equipped with a state-of-the-art MMW seeker which provides high precision strike capability from a safe distance.
• Pinaka: Pinaka Mk-I (Enhanced) Rocket System (EPRS) and Pinaka Area Denial Munition (ADM) rocket systems were successfully flight-tested by DRDO and Indian Army at Pokhran Firing Ranges. The EPRS is the upgraded version of Pinaka variant which has been in service with the Indian Army for the last decade. The system has been upgraded with advanced technologies enhancing the range to meet the emerging requirements.
• Solid Fuel Ducted Ramjet Technology: DRDO successfully flight tested Solid Fuel Ducted Ramjet booster, which demonstrated the reliable functioning of all critical components involved in the complex missile system. The SFDR-based propulsion enables the missile to intercept aerial threats at very long range at supersonic speeds. With the successful trial of SFDR, the range of air-to-air missiles can be enhanced.
• Very Short Range Air Defence System: DRDO conducted two successful test flight of Very Short Range Air Defence System from a ground based portable launcher at ITR, Chandipur. It is a Man Portable Air Defence System designed and developed indigenously by DRDO in collaboration with Industry Partners.
• BrahMos contract with Philippines: BrahMos Aerospace Private Limited (BAPL) signed a contract with the Department of National Defence of Philippines for supply of Shore Based Anti-Ship Missile System. The BAPL is a joint venture company of DRDO. The contract is an important step forward for Government of India’s policy of promoting responsible defence exports.
• Flight Control System Integration complex: The state-of-the-art seven-storeyed Flight Control System Integration facility at Aeronautical Development Establishment, Bengaluru was constructed in record 45 days, with in-house hybrid technology consisting of conventional, pre-engineered and precast methodology. The technology has been developed by DRDO with the help of Larsen & Toubro. This facility will support R&D activities for developing Avionics for Fighter Aircraft and FCS for Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft being undertaken by ADE, Bengaluru.The complex will also provide simulator training to the pilots of combat aircraft.
• Enabling Industry: The present industry base supporting DRDO consists of 1,800 MSMSEs along with DPSUs and large-scale industries. DRDO has undertaken major initiatives through various policies to involve Indian industry as Development cum Production Partners, offering its technology to industry at nominal cost and providing free access to its patents. Policy for free access of DRDO patents by the Indian industry has been promulgated. Technology Development Fund (TDF) Scheme also funds industries, especially start-ups and MSMEs up to an amount of Rs 50 crore for innovation, research and development of defence technologies in the field of defence and Aerospace. Till now, 64 projects have been awarded under TDF scheme to various MSMEs, start-ups and large industries amounting to total projects cost of approx. Rs 280 crore.DRDO has two dedicated laboratories, Centre for Artificial Intelligence and Robotics (CAIR), Bengaluru and DRDO Young Scientist Laboratory (DYSL)-AI, Bengaluru for application oriented research in AI.
• Enhanced Integration with Academia: A regular MTech program in Defence Technology has been launched by DRDO and AICTE to impact necessary theoretical and experimental knowledge, skill and aptitude in various defence technology areas. The programme will motivate the aspiring engineers to start their career in defence technology and will help in achieving ‘Aatmanirbhar Bharat’.

https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1884353

 

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[QUOTE="Lonewarrior, post: 2407481, member: 30854
So you're saying that our very first try at stealth technology and also very first attempt at flying wing will be better than RQ-170?
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No I said that it would be better than the Kizilelma which is also Turkey's first try at stealth technology. The RQ-170 should also be better than the Kizilelma at least on paper. Its flying wing design should also give it an advantage with stealth.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Its flying wing design should also give it an advantage with stealth.

Sed

 

[jai jaganath]

another aspect to be kept in mind, the role of being part of security alliance plays in these sorts of things.

India chose not to be part of any security alliance pact, which limits the access to tech. it's a deliberate choice.
if it is going to be long journey for Indian MIC, so be it.
if turkey is making the best of their situation, good for them.

We had one with Soviet Union

 

[ezsasa]

It takes decade for a private firm to get to this level of tech.
A private enterprise incorporated today will take at least till 2035- 2040 To arrive at the same stage.
Kudos to Turks, they have proven 100 odd Motivated people+Full gov backing > dozen sarkari afsar run factories and Organisation with workforce of 10 k.

The issue is not our scientists but management.
Might be a sweeping statement but babu ,gormint, sarkari culture does not breed competence to the level of private industries. This is not saying our own private industries are any better.
TAI has experienced fellas working for them who have been previously associated with Europeans and North American Industries.

How GoI, MoD & IA handles solar industries offer to develop 250 km S2S missile will play a role in how domestic MIC develops.

it's one of the rare instances where private industry is saying, we will develop a system without AoN, which brings up the question whether domestic defence companies be limited by the requirements "glass ceiling" of IA. just because IA could not make up their mind in time, should private companies limit themselves to AoN?

ideally the answer is no, domestic companies should be allowed to develop solutions ahead of time and beyond domestic requirements, with support from MoD in terms of testing and certification.

 

[kharabela]

as far as MIC is concerned, these things flow top down, not bottom up.
sustained strategic intent at the top plays a bigger role than having talent. it's been a good revamp in past 4-5 years, now the focus should be on sustaining the effort atleast for another two decades at the top.

Yes , this govt has done much better than any previous regime for developing private mic . They have opened the doors of DRDO to private players, wherein they will operate government assets thus sparing them the need to invest in land, machinery or other support infrastructure . government is now considering bifurcation of the post of DRDO chairman and secretary-research and development in the ministry of defence .

Why the Modi govt wants to lighten the DRDO chief’s workload

The government is considering relieving the DRDO chairman of additional responsibilities as secretary (R&D) in the defence ministry to boost the premier defence research agency’s efficiency

www.indiatoday.in

 

[Jimih]

Yes , this govt has done much better than any previous regime for developing private mic . They have opened the doors of DRDO to private players, wherein they will operate government assets thus sparing them the need to invest in land, machinery or other support infrastructure . government is now considering bifurcation of the post of DRDO chairman and secretary-research and development in the ministry of defence .

Good step.

Lots of unused large facilities (infrastructure) are owned by DRDO countrywide.

GoI should allow private players to use these facilities for their R&D and Testing.

 

[ezsasa]

Good step.

Lots of unused large facilities (infrastructure) are owned by DRDO countrywide.

GoI should allow private players to use these facilities for their R&D and Testing.

is happening..

https://www.ddpmod.gov.in/test-facilities-available-private-defence-industries

 

[SUPERPOWER]

So the Agni5 can reach Britain now

So lets us all call it as AGNI 6..