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AFAIK there was no NOTAM. Can anyone confirm what exactly was tested? If it was indeed the HAVA i am sure ISRO would have made more noise. Fingers crossed
Actually it was conducted by a secretive organization so it does makes sense to not say much about it.
Honestly i think the day is not far when we will have our own hypersonic recon aircraft.
Rawalpindi f16s would not be able to even lock on the aircraft
 

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How else would you fire a launch vehicle? No way they are testing such missiles/vehicles without clearing the airspace.
NOTAM is not always necessary.

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These are high altitude airways(10-13km, commerical airliners etc use this) around the Indian subcontinent. If the HAVA travelled South, by the time it reentered back in, it would be clear of all air traffic routes. No NOTAM needed if nobody is going to come there.

HAVA flight profile:

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You can see why NOTAM wasn't necessary. It was above any airliner by about 10-20km downrange.
 

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NOTAM is not always necessary.

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These are high altitude airways(10-13km, commerical airliners etc use this) around the Indian subcontinent. If the HAVA travelled South, by the time it reentered back in, it would be clear of all air traffic routes. No NOTAM needed if nobody is going to come there.

HAVA flight profile:

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You can see why NOTAM wasn't necessary. It was above any airliner by about 10-20km downrange.
All the high altitude routes around Indian Ocean(waypoint about 590 nautical miles away, roughly 1000km):
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Assuming they launched from Andhra Pradesh, and followed a Southernly route, then they could have easily tested it over free airspace. In which case NOTAM would probably not be required, due to the altitudes at which this thing would operate.

Also since this was a HGV project I am assuming they also wanted a bunch of secrecy surrounding it, so it isn't really hard to look at future timetables and launch accordingly so it clears the airliner cruising altitude safely.
 

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But still nirbhay is being ignored by armed forces due to its few failures
I think as its indigenous platform u must induct it
Sadly its not being does and seems nirbhay with Russian engine is tech demonstrator and stfe is not being successful also
We need the Nirbhay/ITCM to be ready at some point. It has the capacity to become a workhorse like the Kalibr.
 

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C. B. Ananthakrishnan: : The first flight of LCA Mark 1A, which is one of our flagship orders which we will have to execute and the first delivery is to happen in February 2024. It has already started and the first flight has already started and we are in line with that so that the deliveries will happen as per the scheduled delivery date.
 

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>In significant collaborative move aimed at bolstering the Make in India campaign, HAL has signed an MoU with Safran to set up a joint venture intended for development, production, sales and support of helicopter engines to meet not only the requirements of the Indian helicopter programs, like IMRH, but also for the global market. A 50-50 partnership is envisaged with the most important thing being that IPR will rest with the joint venture within the country.

> HAL has also entered into an MoU with the IAI, Israel Aerospace Industries on 4 March 2022 to convert the civil passenger aircraft to multi-mission tanker aircraft. This is part of our diversification plan, which probably we are in discussions with IAI which we are expecting it to materialize in the days to come.

>An EOI has been released for the public-private partnership for the Indian Multi Role Helicopter. This is again a major program. We wanted to public-private partnership right from the design and development stage itself, the first of its kind as far as HAL is concerned, as far as the Indian Defense industry is concerned.

>last year almost out of 34 new platforms which has been manufactured and delivered, 30 are indigenously designed and developed state-of-the-art platforms

>All the major platforms of HAL, namely, our LCA, Dornier 228, HTT-40, LCH, LUH are part of the positive list notified by MOD ensuring assured order for these platforms while over 50 LRU fitted on these platforms are also notified ensuring guaranteed order for our partners in the Indian private sector.
 

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>In significant collaborative move aimed at bolstering the Make in India campaign, HAL has signed an MoU with Safran to set up a joint venture intended for development, production, sales and support of helicopter engines to meet not only the requirements of the Indian helicopter programs, like IMRH, but also for the global market. A 50-50 partnership is envisaged with the most important thing being that IPR will rest with the joint venture within the country.

> HAL has also entered into an MoU with the IAI, Israel Aerospace Industries on 4 March 2022 to convert the civil passenger aircraft to multi-mission tanker aircraft. This is part of our diversification plan, which probably we are in discussions with IAI which we are expecting it to materialize in the days to come.

>An EOI has been released for the public-private partnership for the Indian Multi Role Helicopter. This is again a major program. We wanted to public-private partnership right from the design and development stage itself, the first of its kind as far as HAL is concerned, as far as the Indian Defense industry is concerned.

>last year almost out of 34 new platforms which has been manufactured and delivered, 30 are indigenously designed and developed state-of-the-art platforms

>All the major platforms of HAL, namely, our LCA, Dornier 228, HTT-40, LCH, LUH are part of the positive list notified by MOD ensuring assured order for these platforms while over 50 LRU fitted on these platforms are also notified ensuring guaranteed order for our partners in the Indian private sector.
>In fact, the third PIL, yesterday, the third PIL, that is the Positive Indigenization List has also been approved by the government which contains some about 780 strategically important LRU subsystems and components of which almost half of it, 360 are from HAL platforms like LCA, LCH, LUH and so on and so forth

>We are also giving a lot of thrust to our in-house research and development. As you know, almost 6% to 7% of our total revenue goes into the research and development activity annually, and in the last couple of years we have sanctioned almost projects worth 5,000 crores for indigenously design and develop, and we are also going to fund this in-house without waiting for sanctions from the government. All this would mean that our focus on indigenization and design and development and the self-reliance is of paramount importance to HAL. In fact, we have increased our R&D reserve from 10% to 15% of our operating PAT in last year to build a sufficient R&D reserve to take care of all our new programs which we plan to take up in the near future

>We are taking a concerted effort towards increasing exports and the additional indigenous platforms have been added to the export offering list, which you all know has been the advanced flight helicopter, then Mark IV Rudra, which is nothing but weaponized version of ALH, light combat helicopter, light utility helicopter, and then HTT Trainer and all the other, I mean, apart from LCA Tejas.
 

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>In fact, the third PIL, yesterday, the third PIL, that is the Positive Indigenization List has also been approved by the government which contains some about 780 strategically important LRU subsystems and components of which almost half of it, 360 are from HAL platforms like LCA, LCH, LUH and so on and so forth

>We are also giving a lot of thrust to our in-house research and development. As you know, almost 6% to 7% of our total revenue goes into the research and development activity annually, and in the last couple of years we have sanctioned almost projects worth 5,000 crores for indigenously design and develop, and we are also going to fund this in-house without waiting for sanctions from the government. All this would mean that our focus on indigenization and design and development and the self-reliance is of paramount importance to HAL. In fact, we have increased our R&D reserve from 10% to 15% of our operating PAT in last year to build a sufficient R&D reserve to take care of all our new programs which we plan to take up in the near future

>We are taking a concerted effort towards increasing exports and the additional indigenous platforms have been added to the export offering list, which you all know has been the advanced flight helicopter, then Mark IV Rudra, which is nothing but weaponized version of ALH, light combat helicopter, light utility helicopter, and then HTT Trainer and all the other, I mean, apart from LCA Tejas.
Aditya: Sir, I have three questions. First is there has been news that the Air Force is not keen on LCAMk II aircrafts and are looking for foreign aircrafts like Rafael and F-18. So, can we just throw some light on what are the discussions you are having with the Air Force? And what is the current status regarding the developmental induction for LCA Mark II? My second question is last year provisions were pretty high at around 10% of sales excluding the one-off provisions. So, do you think it can move to around 6% to 7% this year which has been our historical range? And my third question is, we are seeing increased focus for Tejas Aircraft from other countries. So, what is the export opportunity for our other platforms like Dornier or ALH or a Trainer aircraft since these aircrafts I believe have very good capabilities and perform very well on cost basis? So, which are the major countries you are looking for exporting?

C. B. Ananthakrishnan: As far as your first question goes, that LCA Mark II status, the project is still on as far as HAL is concerned, and in fact, we are having continuous discussions with ADA, that is that Aeronautical Development Agency, and also with our customers. In fact, as we understand, the progress, the discussions for getting the CCS approval for this is also on, and the Mark II program is still continuing and the customer, in fact, we expect the first flight to happen. Jayadeva EP: IAF has participated in the critical design review.

C. B. Ananthakrishnan: Yes.

Jayadeva EP: IAF has already participated in the critical design review of this project.
 

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