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[Kuldeepm952]

Well, the L70 gun on this platform will straight up finish the deal. You are getting a compact 4x4 system which also have shoot and scoot capability.

Only thing is does IA and IAF ready to do the experiment.

There's no risk really. Sudarshan AD gun has cleared all the air force trials and it's the lowest bidder so most probably we should be seeing the deal signed.
Although I am not sure if a 4*4 HMV would do the trick, Sudarshan is a pretty huge system.
Also most likely the new RFI for Army was placed so that most probably it could match that of IAF, so let's see what happens, if you ask me just stop this foolery and standardise on Sudarshan, upgrade it with Vshorads missiles and variants in next version.

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

All talk. Army has the biggest budget. They have to procure a big ticket indigenous system to get the things rolling.

 

[arnabmit]

All talk. Army has the biggest budget. They have to procure a big ticket indigenous system to get the things rolling.

Army's capital acquisition budget is not that big. Majority of the budget is HR.

 

[Chinmoy]

So currently RFI is issued or not? Hard to analyse from the wire article

Issued in 07th October. But not RFI, RFP. It is a successor of the previous RFI released. Thanks to our esteemed media which don't know the difference in between two.

 

[Lonewolf]

In current RR , let me remind you of our older posts @Gyyan @jai jaganath @Abdus Salem killed

 

[Jambudweepa]

AZAD Engineering of HYD, India begins delivery of 1st consignment of National Aerospace Standard (NAS) parts to Boeing Consignment is a part of a contract secured by AZAD in the Sep 2021 AZAD has expertise & established a centre of excellence in manufacturing turbine blades.



X-BMFR by the BEL - X-Band, active phased array, multi-function radar. - On the move surveillance, tracking and traget acquisition. - Uses 4 phased array antennas covering 90° each to provide 360° azimuth coverage. - With Command & control, comm systems, EO tracking system. 2 way data link to missile on Move. Also has Radio Communication on the Move (ROTM) and Satellite communication on the Move (SOTM) as its features .

 

[Fatalis]

IAF to get indigenously developed Rudram anti-radiation missiles, check details

Rudram missile is India`s first indigenously developed anti-radiation missile that has a speed of Mach two or twice the speed of sound. IAF has test fired this from its Sukhoi-30 fighter aircraft fleet.

zeenews.india.com

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

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Good that DRDO getting attention from non-indian defence channels.

 

[Jambudweepa]

Remote controlled weapon system for armoured vehicles . Night firing capability . Spray mode given , where a zone can be fired upon .

 

[aspdeepak]

Remote controlled weapon system for armoured vehicles . Night firing capability . Spray mode given , where a zone can be fired upon .

Look at the exposed wires, if hit by enemy fire they are useless.

Hope they have some level of protection in the production version.

 

[binayak95]

There's no risk really. Sudarshan AD gun has cleared all the air force trials and it's the lowest bidder so most probably we should be seeing the deal signed.
Although I am not sure if a 4*4 HMV would do the trick, Sudarshan is a pretty huge system.
Also most likely the new RFI for Army was placed so that most probably it could match that of IAF, so let's see what happens, if you ask me just stop this foolery and standardise on Sudarshan, upgrade it with Vshorads missiles and variants in next version.

And the Indonesians have bought, while posting a video of it shooting down a target drone with one shot. EVEN THE IAF has ordered 250 of them. Its typical IA bullshittery

 

[binayak95]

All talk. Army has the biggest budget. They have to procure a big ticket indigenous system to get the things rolling.

HAD. The IN is getting a lions share of what the IA used to get as capital budget and good too

 

[Blood+]

HAD. The IN is getting a lions share of what the IA used to get as capital budget and good too

Good, serves those elite-level morons in the army the best.

 

[Rudra72930]

Guys read this & you will know what exactly is wrong with our defence ecosystem.

"Mr. Pandey, you are absolutely wrong. It is more than 90% of the DRDO manpower which is involved in Project Management. If you see the realization and even production supply and customer clearance of big Projects like MRSAM for Air Force (being done by RCI-Hyderabad), Air Borne Early Warning Radar (being done by CABBS), PINAKA system (being done by ARDE Pune) are some of the examples where the Production/Delivery to the User is also done by DRDO Labs. Apart from that most of the DRDO is involved in realization and proving (including long duration of field trials) of first off systems of Missile, Radars etc. Hence, an organization which should be doing design, simulation and analysis of latest and future generation systems and concentrating on Future Technologies is only busy in procurement, fabrication, quality control, testing, field trials and customer clearance of prototype systems".

This para sums it all up. Its like an "All hats & no cattles" type situation.

DRDO is great for product development, but atleast from prototype fabrication, we need a corporate body. Because apparently the Sub systems suppliers treat DPSUs as 'cash cow's' & try to milk the most out of these sarkari agencies.

NDA has done a great job in reducing corruption in Defence procurement. But we need bigger reforms in our weapons development & procurement process, this bureaucratic red tapism is killing our defence industry. Tejas M2, AMCA all have fallen prey to the same problem.

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Interesting autoloader concept, combination of bustle and t90 type autoloader, claimed to be DRDO pic. Possibly to do away with storing ammo and making all 40 rounds ready to fire, present autoloaders have around 22 rounds ready to fire

 

[factfigures]

So currently RFI is issued or not? Hard to analyse from the wire article

RFP was issued on 07 October 2022 for 220 guns and ammunition.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Guys read this & you will know what exactly is wrong with our defence ecosystem.
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"Mr. Pandey, you are absolutely wrong. It is more than 90% of the DRDO manpower which is involved in Project Management. If you see the realization and even production supply and customer clearance of big Projects like MRSAM for Air Force (being done by RCI-Hyderabad), Air Borne Early Warning Radar (being done by CABBS), PINAKA system (being done by ARDE Pune) are some of the examples where the Production/Delivery to the User is also done by DRDO Labs. Apart from that most of the DRDO is involved in realization and proving (including long duration of field trials) of first off systems of Missile, Radars etc. Hence, an organization which should be doing design, simulation and analysis of latest and future generation systems and concentrating on Future Technologies is only busy in procurement, fabrication, quality control, testing, field trials and customer clearance of prototype systems".

This para sums it all up. Its like an "All hats & no cattles" type situation.

DRDO is great for product development, but atleast from prototype fabrication, we need a corporate body. Because apparently the Sub systems suppliers treat DPSUs as 'cash cow's' & try to milk the most out of these sarkari agencies.

NDA has done a great job in reducing corruption in Defence procurement. But we need bigger reforms in our weapons development & procurement process, this bureaucratic red tapism is killing our defence industry. Tejas M2, AMCA all have fallen prey to the same problem.

Accountability in DRDO.
How do you even go about doing this?
There are successful national research agencies in other countries too but they don't seem to face the same issues as DRDO, why us specifically.

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

Army's capital acquisition budget is not that big. Majority of the budget is HR.

Still Army have the most political weight among the forces and they seems to be the most resistant towards indigenization. Govt is busy with uniform designs.

 

[Alamarathan]

EV startup shows Military Utility Vehicle — Veer. –

Pravaig Dynamic, a Bangalore-based EV startup, unveiled its all-new electric Military Utility Vehicle called Veer which is based on the Defy SUV that the company has launched. Veer is powered by a 90.2kWh battery that delivers 402bhp and 620Nm of torque to all four wheels. It has a length of 4960mm length and 234mm of ground clearance.

The manufacturer claims a range of 500km on a full charge and the battery can be charged from zero to 80 percent in 30 minutes using rapid charging technology.

EV startup is also working on a Military grade High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle that is under testing that the company plans to offer to the Indian Armed forces.

EV startup shows Military Utility Vehicle — Veer. – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Whats with all this sudden rona of foreign collaboration by foreign partners on AMCA on some unconfirmed interview by chief. Are we not already doing that for engine issue. What other tech does AMCA mk1 need which we can't possible develop or already haven't developed, only things I can think of is maybe defensive suites, data fusion system and HMD, and I am not sure if need help for the first two.
Or this another jumla for putting pressure on GOI by Chief for videshi fighter induction, gotta love their dedication, maybe MoD playing hard with IAF.
Whatever it is, such discourse by chief doesn't paints a good picture.