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[NoobWannaLearn]

Assaulter- A counter-drone hard kill bot. Automatic detection, classification and neutralization of rogue drone.

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Is this India company?

 

[Jambudweepa]

Is this India company?

Yes . Mumbai based . Mentioned in their tweeter account .

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Yes . Mumbai based . Mentioned in their tweeter account .

So Indian companies are coming up with amazing shit give them 5-8 more years and our domestic defence Industry is set

 

[WarmongerLSK]

Ok i just saw the pictures of the above mentioned initiative,

Looks like they print them out in a controlled factory setting and transported to the location where it needed.

Indian Army’s Engineer in Chief Lt Gen Harpal Singh said the permanent defences are able to withstand blasts, can be erected within 36-48 hours and relocated from one place to another. He was quoted by news agency ANI as saying, “3D-printed permanent defences have been constructed for the first time by Indian Army’s Corps of Engineers in the desert sector. These defences were trial tested against a range of weapons from small arms to the main gun of T90 tank.”

Indian Army sets up 3D-printed permanent defences in Eastern Ladakh

A 3D-printed shelter for Officers and Junior Commissioned Officers has also been constructed in the desert sector, the Indian Army said.

indianexpress.com

Even if its from 3D printing, cement is cement right? Will it be able to withstand a tank round?

 

[Fatalis]

Pakistani 12.7mm RCWS

Indian 12.7mm RCWS

 

[Alamarathan]

Even if its from 3D printing, cement is cement right? Will it be able to withstand a tank round?

Genuinely idk, thats what got me curious to post it here in the first place,
Maybe it has shallow pockets to be filled with sand,like those sand bags,but im not sure.

Ill keep looking into it if i find anything ill update here.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

Even if its from 3D printing, cement is cement right? Will it be able to withstand a tank round?

I doubt apfsds, but maybe it can handle heat/hesh? there seems to be hollow space with diagonal divider in between, maybe holds some resistance.

 

[porky_kicker]

Even if its from 3D printing, cement is cement right? Will it be able to withstand a tank round?

Egg shell is calcium right?
Yet near impossible to crush when opposite force is applied at the long ends?

Why ?
structural shaping (in this case spherical symmetry) which divides/reduces the applied forces equally from the point of application thereby reducing the actually applied force to a fraction of the same

Materials are important but equally important is structural shaping which mitigates impact forces to the max possible by distributing/dispersing impact forces away from point of impact

To what extend it is used is dependent on the designer

 

[AK047]

 

[binayak95]

Even if its from 3D printing, cement is cement right? Will it be able to withstand a tank round?

Ghanta. APFSDS will crack it wide open, and HEAT shell will cook everyone inside. These are meant to protect from small arms (and more importantly) the weather

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

Because in 2017, ATAGS was not even ready. The proof firing of ATAGS just happened a year earlier in 2016.

You don't understand, for the US army ,they always tend to commit to production and orders even for not fully ready weapon systems.they are like the opposite end of the spectrum compared to Indian military.many of their mainstay weapons were INDUCTED with many problems and probably 60-80 percent of the promised capabilities.

In our case if the atags proof firing was completed in 2016,they would have been ordered then itself or probably even sooner as the army would have seen that there were no complications in the development of the atags.i mean many weapon system in the US arsenal were funded by the military in their development phase based on promises by private manufacturers and they were committed to orders even half way through the trials.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

You don't understand, for the US army ,they always tend to commit to production and orders even for not fully ready weapon systems.they are like the opposite end of the spectrum compared to Indian military.many of their mainstay weapons were INDUCTED with many problems and probably 60-80 percent of the promised capabilities.

In our case if the atags proof firing was completed in 2016,they would have been ordered then itself or probably even sooner as the army would have seen that there were no complications in the development of the atags.i mean many weapon system in the US arsenal were funded by the military in their development phase based on promises by private manufacturers and they were committed to orders even half way through the trials.

Also consider, their budget is 1 trillion, ours is 70 billion

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

You don't understand, for the US army ,they always tend to commit to production and orders even for not fully ready weapon systems.they are like the opposite end of the spectrum compared to Indian military.many of their mainstay weapons were INDUCTED with many problems and probably 60-80 percent of the promised capabilities.

In our case if the atags proof firing was completed in 2016,they would have been ordered then itself or probably even sooner as the army would have seen that there were no complications in the development of the atags.i mean many weapon system in the US arsenal were funded by the military in their development phase based on promises by private manufacturers and they were committed to orders even half way through the trials.

I mean this approach can also be risky as the disastrous LCS which is causing a lot of problems in terms of opportunity cost, maintenance cost,etc was also inducted this way.

 

[Kuldeepm952]

You don't understand, for the US army ,they always tend to commit to production and orders even for not fully ready weapon systems.they are like the opposite end of the spectrum compared to Indian military.many of their mainstay weapons were INDUCTED with many problems and probably 60-80 percent of the promised capabilities.

In our case if the atags proof firing was completed in 2016,they would have been ordered then itself or probably even sooner as the army would have seen that there were no complications in the development of the atags.i mean many weapon system in the US arsenal were funded by the military in their development phase based on promises by private manufacturers and they were committed to orders even half way through the trials.

Well you have to give thumbs to US to put their weight behind US products.

Ghanta. APFSDS will crack it wide open, and HEAT shell will cook everyone inside. These are meant to protect from small arms (and more importantly) the weather

Atleast loitering munitions, hmg or arty fragments se bacha le baaki sab theek h, still great for erecting defense structures fast, Ukraine war has shown the still relevancy of dug in trenches and bunkers.

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Anyone forsaw the sudden rise of adanis in the defense sector, like we never heard much about them. Most of their offerings are still jv, any idea if they will come to forefront in future and offer their own designed products like tata, Mahindra and kalyanis.

 

[WarmongerLSK]

Egg shell is calcium right?
Yet near impossible to crush when opposite force is applied at the long ends?

Why ?
structural shaping (in this case spherical symmetry) which divides/reduces the applied forces equally from the point of application thereby reducing the actually applied force to a fraction of the same

Materials are important but equally important is structural shaping which mitigates impact forces to the max possible by distributing/dispersing impact forces away from point of impact

To what extend it is used is dependent on the designer

I agree that the structure is important but IMO it matters when there is force applied on the whole surface. For example, say, I try to ram a jeep into the wall, then the structure will help in reinforcement. But for a tank round and bullet rounds, which apply force in a small area, the composition of the material itself should matter and the structure doesn't help right?

 

[Jambudweepa]

I agree that the structure is important but IMO it matters when there is force applied on the whole surface. For example, say, I try to ram a jeep into the wall, then the structure will help in reinforcement. But for a tank round and bullet rounds, which apply force in a small area, the composition of the material itself should matter and the structure doesn't help right?

Indian army claiming to have tested it against small arms and t90 fire from 100 meters . We dont know the ammunition and other conditions . We can only speculate here with vague knowledge and opinions .

 

[Arjun Mk1A]

Pakistani 12.7mm RCWS
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Indian 12.7mm RCWS
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Indian RCWS is bulky in nature. Something I observed in an Youtube video where this RCWS is mounted on Arjun MK1A.

Further iteration needed to reduce visual bulk.

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Well Defexpo too need such advertisement through good videos.
I guess I have to break it to you guys but I gonna have to revoke my biblical chinese heritage, atleast I don't need copium or hopium regarding defense there. Now down to .

 

[arnabmit]

Very important points made here