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[Blood+]

We got the money that ruskies need name other countries than india that can afford to pay 3bln just to lease a sub that doesn't already have the tech.
Also do keep in mind ruskies are still very much eager to sell stuff to turks.. who shot down russian jets few years back but also heavily supports ukr let alone poland.
We have the money and the political power to buy from them most other countries wont even buy russian stuff in the next few years because of the sanctions.
So if the opportunity arises we should definitely sell..

So what are you gonna sell to Poland?? Arjuns??

 

[flanker99]

So what are you gonna sell to Poland?? Arjuns??

Read the last line

 

[Blood+]

Read the last line

I did and I'm still curious. What is it that you think we can provide that they can not get from someone else and of better quality??

 

[Kuldeepm952]

We got the money that ruskies need name other countries than india that can afford to pay 3bln just to lease a sub that doesn't already have the tech.
Also do keep in mind ruskies are still very much eager to sell stuff to turks.. who shot down russian jets few years back but also heavily supports ukr let alone poland.
We have the money and the political power to buy from them most other countries wont even buy russian stuff in the next few years because of the sanctions.
So if the opportunity arises we should definitely sell..

Sorry bro but that's not a very strong argument to sell infact not even an argument, defence sale is not only about money but more about pursuing your geopolitics interest, atleast that's how smart countries like US use it, otherwise F35 would have been long offered to India too if it was just about
Anyway put an end to it, you need relations too to buy something, only money is not enough, this is not like a simple market, sell and buy is highly political

 

[omaebakabaka]

I did and I'm still curious. What is it that you think we can provide that they can not get from someone else and of better quality??

May be some nuts, bolts, doors and so on. We really don't export fully manufactured systems perhaps some minor radars like Swathi....ALH's are another product but unlikely the current players would let us take market entry into EU....middle east is where we should focus with some dedicated plan. This poland talk is pure BS

 

[flanker99]

I did and I'm still curious. What is it that you think we can provide that they can not get from someone else and of better quality??

Quality may not matter price definitely like there's a ammo shortage rn even ofb's maal is finding itself in us market. Given the lack of trust between both countries its more likely they will be looking for subsystems,spares in global market ...thats an opportunity worth grabbing if shown

 

[flanker99]

Sorry bro but that's not a very strong argument to sell infact not even an argument, defence sale is not only about money but more about pursuing your geopolitics interest, atleast that's how smart countries like US use it, otherwise F35 would have been long offered to India too if it was just about
Anyway put an end to it, you need relations too to buy something, only money is not enough, this is not like a simple market, sell and buy is highly political

Sorry bro but if u think the russian dont care about the money then i have nothing else to say to u.
Ruskies lack money throw enough at them they will sell anything to almost anyone.
The turkeys case is a good example

 

[omaebakabaka]

Sorry bro but if u think the russian dont care about the money then i have nothing else to say to u.
Ruskies lack money throw enough at them they will sell anything to almost anyone.
The turkeys case is a good example

US is a deep state mafia controlled by oligarchs since Nixon, they operate for profit which is the only motivation. State run companies like Russia and India(unless private picks up) are no match in any dimension. Russia has it easy due to their legacy as former superpower and major power but they sell peanuts compared to western clientele. India is a better model than both in theory but we don't have products to sell on world class level...

 

[Anibesh acharya]

Godrej Aerospace, a business unit of Godrej and Boyce, is planning to invest ₹250 crore to build a new facility at Khalapur in Maharashtra to boost defence and aerospace manufacturing .

Godrej Aerospace to set up ₹250-crore facility near Mumbai

The company will also spend ₹100 crore on R&D in the next two years

www.google.com

Agnikul Cosmos, one of India’s private space startups, has secured its first patent for the design and manufacturing of its 3D printed rocket engine .

India’s Agnikul Cosmos secures first patent for 3D-printed rocket engine

The patent has been rewarded to the company for its Agnilet rocket engine, which will power the company’s Agnibaan rocket that is scheduled to launch later this year

www.google.com

 

[abingdonboy]

The fact that they need a bigger jet to test aesa radar for AMCA gives an indication that uttam for AMCA will be a much bigger much more capable radar.

VT-SCO (A319) is to be used as the FTB for AMCA’s radar and EO/IR sensors

 

[dfcool]

WTH

 

[Love Charger]

 

[cyclops]

Does someone have any info(plans or any intention) on an indigenous rotary canon type CIWS in development by DRDO or are we satisfied with the AK-630s?
I have always wondered why we don't already have an indigenous CIWS like the Phalanx, alternatively we would have the freedom to convert it at will as a 'counter artillery, mortar or rocket' weapon system and probably use it on the LOC to frustrate Pakis.
Consecutively, if we already had an indigenous CIWS, we could increase the number of barrels like the Chinese did with the Type 730(7 Barrels)or have a dual gun system like the Kashtan or the AK-630-M2.

US Phalanx C-RAM for counter artillery, mortar or rocket.

The monstrous AK-630M-2 DUET

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

Does someone have any info(plans or any intention) on an indigenous rotary canon type CIWS in development by DRDO or are we satisfied with the AK-630s?
I have always wondered why we don't already have an indigenous CIWS like the Phalanx, alternatively we would have the freedom to convert it at will as a 'counter artillery, mortar or rocket' weapon system and probably use it on the LOC to frustrate Pakis.
Consecutively, if we already had an indigenous CIWS, we could increase the number of barrels like the Chinese did with the Type 730(7 Barrels)or have a dual gun system like the Kashtan or the AK-630-M2.

US Phalanx C-RAM for counter artillery, mortar or rocket.

The monstrous AK-630M-2 DUET

Navy has asked for new CIWS developed indigenously in the TPCR, but no mention from DRDO of any such project so far.

Our politicians lack sense of imagination. Sabka naam Tejas rakh dete hein. Isko bhi Tejas, usko bhi Tejas. Tejas Train. Tejas Plane. Tejas Horse.
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BTW, what happens to these horses?

 

[Love Charger]

Navy has asked for new CIWS developed indigenously in the TPCR, but no mention from DRDO of any such project so far.


Our politicians lack sense of imagination. Isko bhi Tejas, usko bhi Tejas. Tejas Train. Tejas Plane. Tejas Horse.
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BTW, what happens to these horses?

They become government property probably and kept at some horse farm or agricultural university

 

[cyclops]

Navy has asked for new CIWS developed indigenously in the TPCR, but no mention from DRDO of any such project so far.


Our politicians lack sense of imagination. Sabka naam Tejas rakh dete hein. Isko bhi Tejas, usko bhi Tejas. Tejas Train. Tejas Plane. Tejas Horse.
.
BTW, what happens to these horses?

Link to this TPCR?
Is it a normal autocanon type CIWS or a rotary canon type CIWS?

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

Link to this TPCR?
Is it a normal autocanon type CIWS or a rotary canon type CIWS?

Type not detailed but they want:-

Broad Parameters/ Preferred Technologies: The system should be a missile cum gun complex with its integral
fire control system. The range of missile and gun should not be less than 6 km and 4 km respectively. The gun
should be of 20-30mm caliber with a rate of fire of not less than 4000. The missile and gun ammunition should
be capable against fighters, missiles and surface crafts. It should have radar cum optical guidance facility

Source: https://www.mod.gov.in/sites/default/files/tpcr.pdf

Missile will likely be DRDO MPDMS and looking at that rate of fire, its probably a gatling cannon.

 

[Vamsi]

Will we have the "Know-why" the of engine??

 

[cyclops]

Type not detailed but they want:-

Source: https://www.mod.gov.in/sites/default/files/tpcr.pdf

Missile will likely be DRDO MPDMS and looking at that rate of fire, its probably a gatling cannon.

+4000 rpm. That indeed is a decent rate of fire.
In all probability, it is a rotary canon type CIWS, autocanons generally have a significantly lower rate of fire.

 

[Super Flanker]

TBH I don't think so that we should invest in R&D of CIWS types systems too much, these type of technologies are not the most important.

At the very most, we should just import a design and build the system in India under transfer of technology. We already do this with AK-603, we build AK-603s in India itself with more than 95 percent Indigenisation. If IN is still interested in the R&D of an "Indigenous" CIWS then they can do so.

Nonetheless I am of the opinion that we should allocate all our funds & resources in more important projects like nuclear Submarines, Fighter Jets (AMCA, Tejas MK-2, TEDBF etc), missile programs (Astra, Agni, BMD etc) etc.