DRDO, PSU and Private Defence Sector News

[Okabe Rintarou]

What they say:-

In the morning packed with meetings with representatives of its potential customers (Indian armed forces) and one with Rosoboronexport for a naval gun, president and CEO, Bharat Forge Defence and Aerospace, Rajinder Bhatia squeezed in a few minutes to talk about the importance of self-reliance and Bharat Forge’s role in realisation of this vision.
Source: https://forceindia.net/the-future-is-bright/

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What we hear:-

I got so ecstatic about this. But it was all for naught, its just a meeting, not an agreement. But it does make sense if Kalyani decides to expand into Naval super rapid cannons, and maybe even CIWS cannons and other 30mm cannons for aircraft (attack heptrs and fighter jets).

 

[SUPERPOWER]

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courtsey @NeXoft007

For what it wi be used?

 

[SUPERPOWER]

What they say:-

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What we hear:-

I got so ecstatic about this. But it was all for naught, its just a meeting, not an agreement. But it does make sense if Kalyani decides to expand into Naval super rapid cannons, and maybe even CIWS cannons and other 30mm cannons for aircraft (attack heptrs and fighter jets).

M4 ..is this for UN?

 

[johnj]

There will only be 7-8 sq of MK2 unless IAF gets a sanctioned fighter sq strength of more than 42 sq or cancels MRFA (unlikely to happen) or MK2 replacing squadrons of MK1 or MKI (also unlikely to happen)

Sq strength of MK2 was to be 6-7sq but there's a gap of 1 sq because of alleged cancellation of 21 MiG-29 deal. The gap "could" be filled with MK2 in future. (Total sq were to be 10 but later reduced to 7 because of 2 Rafale sq and 1 MiG-29 sq).

A fleet of max 42 fighter sq (unless GoI/CCS sanctions more sq)

13 MKI (272 airframe)
6 LCA MK1/A (123 airframe)
2 Rafale (36 airframe)
6 MRFA (114 airframe)
2+5 AMCA (120-125 airframe)
1 MiG-29 (21 airframe, deal cancelled)
=> 35 sq
Space is left for 7 MK2 sq (or 8 if MK2 is to take place of the 21 MiG-29). The 10 sq of MK2 was to have around 201 fighters according to ACM RKSB, if we assume a similar ratio, it comes at around 140-160 airframes (7-8 sq)

Sanctioning of additional sq is a possibility but as per the current scenario it is limited to just 7-8 sq.

272+123+36+114+125+160 ≈ 830 airframes in total (including the trainers)

mig deal cancelled right, the +1 to wmf, also early batch of mki/or mki start retiring from mid 30's, so from 8+1 mwf nos start rising, may be upto 12 or 15, & depends on new foreign jet/[[mmrca]].
MWF - 7 to 15 sqn & depends on new jets including amca.

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

M4 ..is this for UN?

Already deployed in Ladakh as QRT vehicle for Light Infantry.

 

[SUPERPOWER]

This is what you are talking of.

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But if you compare both, there are telltale sign indicating that both has been designed by keeping in mind two very different approach.

I have told it before that lot many new models of trucks are being produced by beml ... but no idea of procurement by IA..

 

[radion]

PAWW paww ke bomb ke jaiga paw paw ke missile!!!
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1km uav launched missile.

 

[Chinmoy]

That is part of the superstructure, not the chassis, right? That alone doesn't make it a new truck when the entire suspension, transmission and engine is the same.

Where would you make the super structure? On the chassis. Right? When you are changing the whole superstructure, you have to change the chassis. Doing so would make a existing truck a new model. You have to rework the whole chassis design to support a new cabin, that too armored one and a genset cabin to go with. Adding a genset cabinet means that it would be hauling something massive in tractor which again would mean strengthening the chassis and designing it a new.

BTW, the one they planned to develop for Mounted Gun System was not the one in the pic. Its this one (second one):-

Yes. The second one is the one for MGS.

 

[SUPERPOWER]

Kalyani M4 production line.

 

[tribendra bisoi..]

PAWW paww ke bomb ke jaiga paw paw ke missile!!!
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Will be very useful as a anti guerilla warfare weapon by lunching it from small scale drones . Also small scale machine gun hideouts and sniper positions can be targeted . If we had proper drone surveillance capabilities or small scale drones which cld be carried by troops , It wld have been useful during kargil .

 

[Cheran]

 

[Srinie]

Cabin is their own, that's the work of their new industrial design center.

In fact development of HMV 8X8 with armoured cabin for MGS was mentioned in their annual report earlier.

What is drdo's contribution in this project ? Is this a RWD?

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

Where would you make the super structure? On the chassis. Right? When you are changing the whole superstructure, you have to change the chassis. Doing so would make a existing truck a new model. You have to rework the whole chassis design to support a new cabin, that too armored one and a genset cabin to go with. Adding a genset cabinet means that it would be hauling something massive in tractor which again would mean strengthening the chassis and designing it a new.

WTF?
All these following trucks have the same chassis and different superstructure. That is the entire bloody point:-

^None of this requires "rework the whole chassis design to support a new cabin, that too armored one and a genset cabin to go with. Adding a genset cabinet means that it would be hauling something massive in tractor which again would mean strengthening the chassis and designing it a new." as you claim. The chassis is already capable of handling all configurations, even the one with hauling. For mounting a genset, it already includes a PTO where you can simply connect the alternator to.

Now take a look at this:-

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Take a look at that genset cabin. Its simply mounted on the chassis frame. No modification to the chassis required.


Its not a new truck. Its an old truck with a new cab that although is armoured, doesn't exceed the axle load capacity of the original. Or they wouldn't be using the exact same engine (refer pic of BEML modification, its the same engine as used in the pics above it).
Even the gradability of the new truck is mentioned as 25 degrees, same as Tatra 815. No other specs available but whenever they come out, match them with the specs of Tatra 815 and they'll be the SAME. Not similar, SAME.

What is drdo's contribution in this project ? Is this a RWD?

Most likely the armouring part, I think? And its a Tatra 815, so its AWD.

 

[BlackViking]

Sab ko 'camo' chahiye......next forest and customs.....excise?

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

What is drdo's contribution in this project ?

Found this in BEML annual report:-

So seems like the new cabin is a TOT from someone to BEML. Makes sense that that someone is VRDE.

 

[Butter Chicken]

 

[porky_kicker]

Posting without the text content as might need to delete the tweet

 

[karn]

A lot of info that has been speculated here before.

 

[Blood+]

crazy vid from Ukraine , loitering switch blade uav diving into a guy standing besides a van.

we gonna need a 1000 of these for next war.

Like playing Battlefield!!

 

[Blood+]

loitering drones like these wont replace artillery , these will be handy for targeting high value targets close to LAC.

unlike artillery , these wont be under danger or return fire. , IMHO these will be great in AP , we have shitty or no roads close to the LAC there , before we can get artillery there , we can send few of our guys carrying these . hit PLA convoys , mobile radars , armoured vehicles , command centers .

They will be pretty useless against armored vehicles though.