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[SKC]

The GST is not included in the contract value generally, unless its mentioned.

Some of these areas should be exempted from GST or put in 5% GST bracket.

 

[The Shrike]

number could be 248 (livefist). 7.5 crore per unit (swarajya)
https://www.livefistdefence.com/and-now-248-astra-missiles-for-navy-iaf-fighters/

Why This ‘Astra’ Is More Than Just Another Weapon For India

The Astra Mk1 will be capable of detecting, tracking, and destroying highly agile supersonic fighters armed with anti-missile measures at long ranges.It will also be equipped with advanced electronic counter-counter measures to negate jamming by hostile aircraft.

swarajyamag.com

So it has taken 2 years from "AoN" to actually signing a deal for an urgently needed indigenous weapon system .

 

[SKC]

So it has taken 2 years from "AoN" to actually signing a deal for an urgently needed indigenous weapon system .

Why are you surprised?
We all are used to this now.

 

[The Shrike]

Why are you surprised?
We all are used to this now.

Not surprised, just venting .

 

[Love Charger]

Which type of explosives are used in drdo missile warheads ?
Cheeni and iranis are flexing on pdf about some new shit better than cl 20

 

[DEV1729]

Brazil also has developed hypersonic missile which they are making it into space delivery vehicle

14-X - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Test launch video

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Texus_49_launch_2.ogv

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Any idea why ARDE developing base bleed round? Isn't it already manufactured by OFB.
If it was rocket assisted VLAP round, it would have been understandable but base bleed, why?

 

[Chinmoy]

Any idea why ARDE developing base bleed round? Isn't it already manufactured by OFB.
If it was rocket assisted VLAP round, it would have been understandable but base bleed, why?

Bourrelet round is not a BB round.

It is basically a round to enhance the self life of the gun barrel.

 

[Kumata]

glad this is happening.. I am hoping Porkies have lost the only available advantage they had with AIM120

First order for indigenous air to air missiles placed

Developed by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), Astra MK1 out ranges the current set of Russian origin air to air missiles being used by the air force that were found wanting during an aerial faceoff in the aftermath of the Balakot air strikes in 2019.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

[vishnugupt]

glad this is happening.. I am hoping Porkies have lost the only available advantage they had with AIM120

First order for indigenous air to air missiles placed

Developed by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), Astra MK1 out ranges the current set of Russian origin air to air missiles being used by the air force that were found wanting during an aerial faceoff in the aftermath of the Balakot air strikes in 2019.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

I think IAF should come out from this bizzare excuse and accept the mistake.

There is/was never such disparity between Pak AIM120 and R-77 range. BVR fights has never been portrait as being portrayed by DFIs.

10-15 km difference in range is nothing for BVR. It doesn't make any difference. Until jets in MAR zone.

Carrom board warriors for a reason.

 

[Chinmoy]

So it has taken 2 years from "AoN" to actually signing a deal for an urgently needed indigenous weapon system .

Its not like AON has been given and production would start from the next day. It happens only in our jingo media.

License agreement in between DRDO and BDL for Astra was signed in 2017-18. The testing was ongoing during that time, but the assembly line was inaugurated back in 2017 itself. So the steps were already taken for production even before it completed its tests.

Then in 2020 LSP was ordered and a number of 248 came in media for which approval was given by MoD. Now one thing which we don't try to understand and bring in our stupidity is that, before putting on a order for a system like AAM, it has to undergo a number of tests apart from development and user trial.

All the initial tests were carried out from Sukhoi, but the said number of 248 is not just for Sukhoi. So the LSPs were not just ordered for Su to keep the assembly line floating. But those were ordered to be tested from the second line of jets like Migs and Tejas. We already seen Astra on Tejas Pylon. Moreover those were used in exercises to build up a user profile. Its not like you go on and slap on 'n' numbers of Astra on your jet on any given mission. How many missile you would carry on a particular mission, what would be your missile combination for a specific mission profile has to be build up around the missile. Only after that you would put on a specific order.

So taking into account that LSPs has been ordered in 2020 and the next production batch order came within 2 years shows that the induction process has been at par with international standard or even better.

 

[Kumata]

I think IAF should come out from this bizzare excuse and accept the mistake.

There is/was never such disparity between Pak AIM120 and R-77 range. BVR fights has never been portrait as being portrayed by DFIs.

10-15 km difference in range is nothing for BVR. It doesn't make any difference. Until jets in MAR zone.

Carrom board warriors for a reason.

what mistake that they did not counter fired.....quite possible that clearance to fire was not received... AIM excuse seems like a bogie to get more money...

 

[rone]

what mistake that they did not counter fired.....quite possible that clearance to fire was not received... AIM excuse seems like a bogie to get more money...

Both r77 and aim120 c5 can fire on track while scan mod which won't trigger rwr, the reason IAF never fired r77 because of MAR ( minimum abort range) of both missiles, for aim120c5 MAR considered as 18-23 miles where r77-1 considered as 10-15 miles so if IAF fired multiple r77 at f16 30k feet they can easily defend and close gap shoot down su30mki with jf17 pl10 or adf f16 mlu versions escorting other strike packages, IAF who had superior situational awareness defended first salvo of aim 120 by going cold so if they (f16) pressed hard they may cross MAR recommend by their counter parts and get in to mig21 carrying r77 range which was indivisible to f16 at that time, so they dumped their strike packge in hurry trun cold and run back to f16 air defence coverage.

Ps: I came to this conclusion after playing out this scenario in DCS with couple of my friends where whole strike packages of paf was simulated by AI, me and other friends take control of 4 defending su30 mki and 8 mig21 ( no 77 but stay low) m2k also AI was guarding another area of action East to us, so above comments of mine is just a best guess based on close to real simulator

 

[Akula]

I think it will be used for OFB's ICV or DRDO's Abhay mk2.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

I think it will be used for OFB's ICV or DRDO's Abhay mk2.

 

[flanker99]

piss on me if u want to but the thing looks like a tin can

 

[Kuldeepm952]

What was on the mentioned tweet??
The hull seems oddly similiar to Abhay one. Perhaps for FICV reqmt.
Turret seems to be new but I am sure IA insisted on APS for FICV or any future armour and this turret doesn't seems to have provision for it. Also don't you think double stacking of ATGM on either side would lead to blocking of Commander panaromaic sight if the drawing is being considered to scale. I hope they also design light ERA package for it. Watch this video where the side ERA module also acts as floatation support in addition to HEAT protection. Still can't believe Kurganets 25 can weigh so less while being this big.

 

[Kuldeepm952]

piss on me if u want to but the thing looks like a tin can

Yeah, that's the abhay hull, they didn't bother designing new one. I always hated that narrow hull profile, does passengers inside even sit comfortably considering that other wider hull ifv barely have any space available for passangers after sitting. Say anything but Kurganets 25 looks way better.

 

[Super Flanker]

FICV Design is Reportedly out. FICV stands for Futuristic Infantry Combat Vehicle.

Source : Black Adder on twitter.

Personal opinion : Looks to be promising, finally an Indigenous design.

 

[Super Flanker]

DRDO light Tank program will roll out its 1st prototype by next year. (2023).

SOURCE : @Blackadder on Twitter