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Because most of the drones i.e rustom 1 purchased from drdo were crashed .Turkey is able to do it because it has private company bayraktar who started with screwgiri tb2 was mere assembly and turkey has no quota system like India.
See here Indian army's crores of rupees was wasted by drdo in Nishant uav project.Indian army was one of the very army in 90s who wanted a uav ucav fleet.Drdo charged 22 crores for 1 drone and each one crashed after 20 years of testing and development ,hence Indian army or airforce are not making any commitment it will be better to use this sums of money on atgm and sniper rifles .
Folks within drdo are sabotaging our programs as if they are foreign agents
Well crashes and failures do happen
This is why trials happen,to check whether the system is crashing or not or is there something wrong if yes then rectify it.
Anyways rustom isr is almost ready and armed variant will be another drone which is HALE
 

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The only salvation story for the Indian homegrown drone industry is some private sectors with deep pockets, like TATA and Mahindra, jumping into the game and pushing their own MALE/HALE drones.
Small startups who develop light drones, lack technical knowledge and funds to develop a MALE/HALE drone.
Eh i don't think 'private' industry is the only salvation considering we have SWIFT and GHATAK going with decent progress, i mean we already saw swift last year, these are totally by DRDO not some 'muh private god saviour Jesus ultra max pro'. Even though we didn't induct Rustom 1 in large number or rustom 2 is in trials still rustom 1 was better than tb2 iirc, rustom 2 was a decent upgrade, SWIFT and Ghatak are just awesome successors of these in way.

And there's nothing special about tb2 or avinci. Basic drones, it's just that most of these drones had limited role in our army's use case. The best use case for them was surveillance and eventually using a2g payloads, cheaper operation but not resilient enough like aircrafts. Among the 100 or so drones in ukraine only 1 or 2 instances they have done any damage and rest of that is just turkroach propaganda and paki fanboyism.

DRDO with ghatak and swift are already showing that they are more than capable, rustom 2 has great progress.

We didn't take this domain seriously but now when we did, we have easily made good progress SWIFTly hehe. Coming to private players, give them 4 years and they will btfo most of the roach or chink sectors, L&T, ideaforge are already into this. From small quadcapter to uav on the range of rustom 1 they are already doing it, PLI scheme is helping them and eventually we will see them exporting. I do believe that our private companies can provide better price tag for these.
 

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Why the fook does drdo do everything under the sun. Why cant they outsource this to BEML or a pvt company like ashok leyland and TATA? No wonder nothing gets done on time
DRDO is consortium of labs spread around the country, if they think they can do it let them. Their record with TOT to private players in the past seem good too. What's the issue here?
 

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DRDO is consortium of labs spread around the country, if they think they can do it let them. Their record with TOT to private players in the past seem good too. What's the issue here?
The problem with this approach is that DRDO is not giving space for private industry to develop and grow stuff and thus hindering our MIC.
DRDO should focus on developing cutting edge next generation science that needs government support.
Let local private players work, develop and support general availability system likes drones. Developing drones is no longer cutting edge work.
 

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Why the fook does drdo do everything under the sun. Why cant they outsource this to BEML or a pvt company like ashok leyland and TATA? No wonder nothing gets done on time
DRDO has a really bad habit of taking up all the projects, committing unrealistic timelines, and then getting stretched really thin across all the projects and getting more and more delayed.

Also, we need to atleast double DRDO funding. Currently its around 1.6 billion $ we can definitely increase it to 3 billion $ and may be establish some R&D fund for private companies.
 

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The problem with this approach is that DRDO is not giving space for private industry to develop and grow stuff and thus hindering our MIC.
DRDO should focus on developing cutting edge next generation science that needs government support.
Let local private players work, develop and support general availability system likes drones. Developing drones is no longer cutting edge work.
How is DRDO stopping private sector from innovating? Yes i do agree that some may consider it waste of resources and that may or may not be fair point but if they don't do and private sector doesn't care then we will be stuck in a limbo.

Coming to drones, mini quadcopter and even surveillance one by ideaforge and that tactical uav of L&T which is similar to rustom 1 more or less are something which private players are handling. SWIFT and Ghatak are something that private companies don't have either capability to build or know how to, so it seems fair that DRDO is involved in that. Maybe they will eventually some of the tech to private, maybe a SPV route can be formed for this too for production..This is where DRDO can hand hold private sector alright enough.
 

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DRDO has a really bad habit of taking up all the projects, committing unrealistic timelines, and then getting stretched really thin across all the projects and getting more and more delayed.

Also, we need to atleast double DRDO funding. Currently its around 1.6 billion $ we can definitely increase it to 3 billion $ and may be establish some R&D fund for private companies.
DRDO and ISRO should have combined funding of atleast 10 billion minimum, no question asked. ISRO chairman in 2014 stated the requirement for close to 4 billion budget for ISRO even today they only get 1.9 billion...
 

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The problem with this approach is that DRDO is not giving space for private industry to develop and grow stuff and thus hindering our MIC.
DRDO should focus on developing cutting edge next generation science that needs government support.
Let local private players work, develop and support general availability system likes drones. Developing drones is no longer cutting edge work.
Private industry is not doing ut and depending on TOT products ,not the other way , please make sensible statements
 

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LOL HO GAYA BHAI 😢😢😢

Seems like DRDO guys are most idiotic people in the world , vl mica which have range of 60 km in aam , and 20 km in vertical launched configuration , whereas Astra have 110 km in aam configuration , but with length extension still it have 15 km range .

Yes the DRDO is fool to degrade the missile because a twitter expert is using psqr as a base for declaring the range of missile , AMAZING
 

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range kam hai, hum 30-40 expect kar rahe the lekin yaha to 15 se kam nikli :dude::dude::dude::dude::dude:
This is the single pulse engine variant.
In future you will see 30-40 km dual pulse variant.
And as Astra 1 had about 80 km range,it was expected that ground launched variant would have about 1/4 the range.
Not an unexpected outcome.
 

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Are bhai log qrsam aur Akash NG ka kya hua
Qrsam ka orders ke bare me kya hua
Qrsam user trial will begin soon ,most probably few may have happened in rajasthan . Order this year or next year . Akash ng testing is more faster and efficient all components are verified , live test with target banshee and warhead test are remaining after that user trials and orders.

Abhi unka Asteroid intercepting test baaki hai.
Will you be there for analysis of results ?
 

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Qrsam user trial will begin soon ,most probably few may have happened in rajasthan . Order this year or next year . Akash ng testing is more faster and efficient all components are verified , live test with target banshee and warhead test are remaining after that user trials and orders.


Will you be there for analysis of results ?
But bro last test was long ago so I think user trail would have been completed
 
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