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Honestly speaking in my opinion ,DRDO NETRA has a lot of potential for Export to countries like Indonesia ,UAE ,Qatar etc. What is your opinion?
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And u know about Islamic connection , I would like it better with Iranian if they come out of ban , or any non Pakistan friendly nation
 

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Another false equivalence with India

Nope CCP lack options from military import

Russians are far behind due money 💰 constraints


They already have huge money 💰 R&D to invest
Now they have no choice but look inside

The external sources are all adversaries which never share technology with Chinese
Except IP theft

In india 🇮🇳 case Its different

We always has options to buy top notch military weapons from West

Why a professional military should compromise its battle readiness or compromise quality of its Airforce

Military first job is defend from any threat
With any means possible

Rest things comes later

Indigenous ecosystem is good but it's don't mean india will compromise its sovereignty over it

That is why we bought S-400 even though
We are in process to develop equivalent systems
Or already developed.

Just add force multiplier

Journalists should stick to the job of Journalists
Not cross in into warfare statergies

I mean Japanese bought 105 F-35
This Journalists saying that will not increase its Air power

And some how 🤔 PLAAF with its half baked R&D
Of 5 gen aircraft has military strength .

Surely they have numbers but Japan has quality.

Israel already proved how Military quality
Exale in warfare over large adversary.
 
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Thought this was relevant to this thread. The above views are close representation of state department's(aka deep state) own view. This is as honest as we can get to know deep state's view regarding India.

They doesn't want an atmanirbhar india, they are quite happy if continue with russian shopping spree in short term. But in long term they see US replacing Russia. In above tweet ' Defence cooperation' actually means defence LEVERAGE.

I have said this before, if you consider US as some short-sighted halfwit who would sanctione India over some missiles they wouldn't have ruled the world since ww2. All this caatsa talks are just empty threats. You see some times empty threats produce far more dividends than the actual action. Its a negotiation tool. We can recall some us politicians recently visited india, they were looking for rewards for not following through their empty threats.

The best strategy for india in this caatsa matter would be to not acknowledge us domestic law(caatsa) whatsoever. India should categorically say "we are not looking for any waiver for any type of sanctions. And maintaining good us-india relationship is not sole responsibility of India" .

Lastly we should always remember deep state is the only entity that shapes policy is US. They are the true masters of politicians not the other way around.
 

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Thought this was relevant to this thread. The above views are close representation of state department's(aka deep state) own view. This is as honest as we can get to know deep state's view regarding India.

They doesn't want an atmanirbhar india, they are quite happy if continue with russian shopping spree in short term. But in long term they see US replacing Russia. In above tweet ' Defence cooperation' actually means defence LEVERAGE.

I have said this before, if you consider US as some short-sighted halfwit who would sanctione India over some missiles they wouldn't have ruled the world since ww2. All this caatsa talks are just empty threats. You see some times empty threats produce far more dividends than the actual action. Its a negotiation tool. We can recall some us politicians recently visited india, they were looking for rewards for not following through their empty threats.

The best strategy for india in this caatsa matter would be to not acknowledge us domestic law(caatsa) whatsoever. India should categorically say "we are not looking for any waiver for any type of sanctions. And maintaining good us-india relationship is not sole responsibility of India" .

Lastly we should always remember deep state is the only entity that shapes policy is US. They are the true masters of politicians not the other way around.
US has already replaced Russia, we are buying all the large platforms like C17, Hercules, P8i from USA. S400 probably the only large deal signed with Russia in many years. Even we will not need USA in future much, from my limited defense knowledge I believe that apart from these platforms like transport aircrafts or nuclear submarines, India has the capability to make each and every weapons needed by our armed forces and that too of western standards if we do the r&d funding rightly. Take the example of Akash NG and tell me how it is inferior to Spyder. It has aesa fcr, two way data link, eccm capabilities, dual rf & iir seeker, integrated command & control I mean every technology the western Spyder system has to offer. In future US will not replace Russia, it's the Indian defense ecosystem that will replace Russia at large.
 

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Saurabh Jha's expert "gyaan" over everything defense-related is like barber-shop talk. He understands half of the things and rants like a fanboy.
I don't think he has reported or even tried to report any credible news but rather stick to jingoistic tweets.

Another false equivalence with India

Nope CCP lack options from military import

Russians are far behind due money 💰 constraints


They already have huge money 💰 R&D to invest
Now they have no choice but look inside

The external sources are all adversaries which never share technology with Chinese
Except IP theft

In india 🇮🇳 case Its different

We always has options to buy top notch military weapons from West

Why a professional military should compromise its battle readiness or compromise quality of its Airforce

Military first job is defend from any threat
With any means possible

Rest things comes later

Indigenous ecosystem is good but it's don't mean india will compromise its sovereignty over it

That is why we bought S-400 even though
We are in process to develop equivalent systems
Or already developed.

Just add force multiplier

Journalists should stick to the job of Journalists
Not cross in into warfare statergies

I mean Japanese bought 105 F-35
This Journalists saying that will not increase its Air power

And some how 🤔 PLAAF with its half baked R&D
Of 5 gen aircraft has military strength .

Surely they have numbers but Japan has quality.

Israel already proved how Military quality
Exale in warfare over large adversary.
I wished more people on this forum will understand this and stop blaming and cursing armed forces for not swallowing every indigenious option being shoved down their throat.
 

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Why a professional military should compromise its battle readiness or compromise quality of its Airforce
Your battle readiness is already compromised when you depend on foreign countries for supply??

How will you make up for attrition in time fo war??
What if Russia or usa or France refused to supply ammunition spare during conflict ??

Not very professional eh??
 

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US has already replaced Russia, we are buying all the large platforms like C17, Hercules, P8i from USA. S400 probably the only large deal signed with Russia in many years. Even we will not need USA in future much, from my limited defense knowledge I believe that apart from these platforms like transport aircrafts or nuclear submarines, India has the capability to make each and every weapons needed by our armed forces and that too of western standards if we do the r&d funding rightly. Take the example of Akash NG and tell me how it is inferior to Spyder. It has aesa fcr, two way data link, eccm capabilities, dual rf & iir seeker, integrated command & control I mean every technology the western Spyder system has to offer. In future US will not replace Russia, it's the Indian defense ecosystem that will replace Russia at large.
S400 is not the only deal ongoing with Russia. Far more important is russian assistant in arihant program and leasing of akula nuke submarine beside future collaboration on indeginous SSN which are in planning stages.

Then there are deals like talwar class, more t90s and su30mki upgrade program.

Russia is also partner in sfdr project as well as next gen version of bramhos.

It's still two important for us.
 

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Your battle readiness is already compromised when you depend on foreign countries for supply??

How will you make up for attrition in time fo war??
What if Russia or usa or France refused to supply ammunition spare during conflict ??

Not very professional eh??
This import pasandi will soon cost us Arunachal Pradesh
 

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US has already replaced Russia, we are buying all the large platforms like C17, Hercules, P8i from USA. S400 probably the only large deal signed with Russia in many years. Even we will not need USA in future much, from my limited defense knowledge I believe that apart from these platforms like transport aircrafts or nuclear submarines, India has the capability to make each and every weapons needed by our armed forces and that too of western standards if we do the r&d funding rightly. Take the example of Akash NG and tell me how it is inferior to Spyder. It has aesa fcr, two way data link, eccm capabilities, dual rf & iir seeker, integrated command & control I mean every technology the western Spyder system has to offer. In future US will not replace Russia, it's the Indian defense ecosystem that will replace Russia at large.
Not offensive systems, lets hope it stays that way. Its really unfortunate to see the treatment meted out to our desi guns( i.e atags, bf ulh, bh52, dhanush etc)
 

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