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[gslv markIII]

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[Abdus Salem killed]

CSL annual report. No other important details.



Compare with what exactly.



This is a floating testbed.

Is this ship real or just an artist rendering image

How is it compares to china and pak do they have comparable ships of this class some example of this ship type from other countries thanks @gslv markIII

Also can you post the source

 

[flanker99]

This TDV has two BMD missile launchers in the rear to act as a BMD launcher testbed and a rear looking two panel LMFR to guide the missiles acting as fire control.

INS Dhruv is only a tracking ship for both intelligence, Space Situational Awareness and BMD purposes.

sure 2 nnot 4?@DFI_Pk made this a while ago

 

[ezsasa]

Just some notes:

1. Can't make heads or tails of what Astra Mk1 UT is from all the tenders in it's catgeory. Is it just a project code to track further improvements and testing of the original Astra? Or is it a new project? It feels like a new one because it still seems to be in integration testing and HILS testing stage.

2. From tenders : Some new torpedo from NSTL/NPOL is going to have a pumpjet propulsor with two fibre props.

3. Astra Mk-II is under final pre-testing integration

4. ADA/HAL are working on single titanium block milling for AMCA similar to F-35. Midhani annual report states that they delivered test blocks in February. (also posted in AMCA thread)

5. Next VL-SRSAM tests will be in the final canisterised configuration, the earlier ones weren't. The radar is still a mystery though but BEL confirmed delivery of few prototypes in their Annual Report. But why? Weren't they supposed to integrate it with MF-STAR? Is this new radar for the Kamorta like vessels? Does that mean Revathi will be replaced with the new one? What will be the future of Fregat vessels then?

6. My opinion/theory: Brahmos-NG and Brahmos-II have neither been funded nor being worked on. They are just proposals from Brahmos corp to keep themselves relevant. MoD and Russia doesn't seem to have signed any agreement for these two. Neither DRDL or NPO Mashinostreynia seem to be working on them. I feel, these projects will disappear as STAR gets tested and HSTDV confidence grows. Both will get full desi projects without involving Russia

I will post such notes just to get wider inputs on some observerations and thought process I am going through.

-A newbie on this forum

True. on Point# 6 on Brahmos NG part .
Don't think there is any new update after this.
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BrahMos-NG will be ready in the next four years. We are holding on to our investments for now and
will be ready with the new weapon suite when IAF demands it.

Read more at: https://www.onmanorama.com/news/india/2020/02/12/brahmos-ng-iaf-demands-sk-mishra.html

 

[gearedcombustor]

Is this ship real or just an artist rendering image

How is it compares to china and pak do they have comparable ships of this class some example of this ship type from other countries thanks @gslv markIII

Also can you post the source

No one else has such a ship because they don't need it. China tests their BMD over land in Gobi desert between two locations 1200km apart. Russia tests over land between Kora missile range and Plesetsk.

US tests between two pacific islands.

We do not have such supporting geographies and have to resort to this ship.

 

[gslv markIII]

Ya'll Nibbiars we have The Andaman and Nicobar Islands.

Nibbiar we have the NGT to screw up

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

Nibbiar we have the NGT to screw up

Ngt?

 

[gearedcombustor]

Ya'll Nibbiars we have The Andaman and Nicobar Islands.

You have to fire the missiles towards populated regions on both sides. Too risky. Option was explored and decided against. Ships are safer incase the missiles miss or they lose telemetry and can't be self destructed.

Gobi, Southern Russia are very sparsely populated. US does it over ocean.

Even a tiny issue with navigation or a missed interception or debris can all lead to reentry vehicle or the KKV hitting populated areas.

 

[gearedcombustor]

Ya'll Nibbiars can do this between the shore of Andaman and Nicobar or the APJ Kalam Islnad and some outer Andaman Inslands.

Even a tiny issue with navigation or a missed interception or debris can all lead to reentry vehicle or the KKV hitting populated areas as small errors can lead to tens or even hundreds of kilometres offcourse landing

These errors happen in the Gobi all the time and hit villages and China doesn't care. We have to.

 

[porky_kicker]

sure 2 nnot 4?@DFI_Pk made this a while ago

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4 SLS not 2

 

[porky_kicker]

This TDV has two BMD missile launchers in the rear to act as a BMD launcher testbed and a rear looking two panel LMFR to guide the missiles acting as fire control.

INS Dhruv is only a tracking ship for both intelligence, Space Situational Awareness and BMD purposes.

4 launchers not 2

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[FalconSlayers]

Some pics of New Jaguar MAX, Note the wide area display ( WAD ) in the Jaguar cockpit.

Spoiler

 

[Chinmoy]

CSL- built DRDO TDV

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Probably the most advanced Naval Auxiliary vessel in Asia, lol.

Sea trials for floating missile test range INS Anvesh begin this month

Sea trials for floating missile test range INS Anvesh begin this month

The FTR will not only speed up the missile projects of DRDO but also allow live testing of interceptor missiles for phase II of Ballistic Missile Defence program.

www.hindustantimes.com

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

Interesting says it is 1.2mx1.3m and 12cm thick. They compromised on width and height but retained the thickness. This compromise means they will require more fasteners and more structural material and will have to compromise on internal space which F-35 couldn't on because they had weird requirements.
Thick enough as F-35.
Size is smaller than the F-35 variants which are 19.6ft x 6.5 ft
F-35 pic:

https://hill-engineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Picture2.png

What are you suggesting? That the size limit was enforced by our forging process limitations? Isn't that size difference merely due to difference in the design of AMCA and F-35, given that aircraft sizing is performed a whole lot earlier during the design phase when compared to structural design?

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Ngt?

National green tribunal

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Some pics of New Jaguar MAX, Note the wide area display ( WAD ) in the Jaguar cockpit.
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Spoiler

So will the jags be upgraded this level ?

 

[gearedcombustor]

What are you suggesting? That the size limit was enforced by our forging process limitations? Isn't that size difference merely due to difference in the design of AMCA and F-35, given that aircraft sizing is performed a whole lot earlier during the design phase when compared to structural design?

A mix of both probably. Both forging limitations and difference in specifications.

A larger forge would have simplified the design by relying on thick and large monolithic block avoiding a lot of various mating techniques. Would have given a very strong airframe with minimum weight and high airframe life.

They probably have multiple design approaches at this stage. Based on the success at this stage they will probably decide on how the final design will be. They can still build a high performance aircraft without monolithic blocks but it will have a lot more structure - see KAI KF-x pics. Their design is more traditional.

Also F-35 had serious design constraints to allow for that large engine with space for the lift fan and large fuel tanks while trying retain a 9g high airframe life design. Such challenges won't exist in AMCA.

 

[fire starter]

 

[Vamsi]