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[Leonardo Alves]

Wouldn't pack howitzers ( which are mule portable) are best for the situation you have mentioned?

Sarcasm alert:-
Anti-gravity howitzers must be made and must convert to transformer configuration.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Why does it matter? It’s not a military platform, it’s not doing anything overtly secretive

Its markings are appropriate for its job, look up the F-35’s FTB

It does not matter, its just a matter of taste discretion. No one is going to be confused without that thing shouting like that.

 

[warriorextreme]

DRDO develops high-strength beta Titanium alloy for aerospace applications

The high strength-to-weight ratio of the beta titanium alloy facilitates manufacture of intricately configured components for aerospace applications

www.deccanherald.com

The Defence Research and Development Organisation has indigenously developed a high-strength beta titanium alloy for manufacturing intricate components for aerospace applications, the defence ministry said on Tuesday.

"Some of the components which may be forged from this alloy include slat/flap tracks, landing gear and drop link in landing gear – among several others," the ministry said in a statement.

Their relatively lower lifetime cost, owing to superior corrosion resistance in comparison to steels, is an effective trade-off to justify the use of this expensive material in India too, the ministry said. The beta titanium alloy, which contains vanadium, iron and aluminium along with titanium, is used by many developed nations as a substitute for the "relatively heavier traditional Ni-Cr-Mo structural steels to achieve weight savings", it said.

The ministry's Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) has identified over 15 steel components which may be replaced by the beta titanium alloy forgings in the near future with a potential of 40 per cent weight savings, the ministry stated.

Defence Minister Rajnath Singh on Tuesday congratulated the DRDO and the industry for indigenous development of the beta titanium alloy.

 

[Chinmoy]

Wouldn't pack howitzers ( which are mule portable) are best for the situation you have mentioned?

IA has towed 130mm howitzers with sheer manpower at times. So if situation arise, then that could be done too.
But in that scenario too, we want light guns. 18T behemoth is not going to help us there too.

 

[ladder]

IA has towed 130mm howitzers with sheer manpower at times. So if situation arise, then that could be done too.
But in that scenario too, we want light guns. 18T behemoth is not going to help us there too.

If that is the SOP recruit more porters.
And if it isn't a regular affair, like road (of adequate class) giving away under permissible weight, what is the point discussing here?

 

[sorcerer]

DRDO indigenously develops High Strength Beta Titanium Alloy on industrial scale


Posted On: 20 JUL 2021 12:36PM by PIB Delhi



Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has indigenously developed a High Strength Metastable Beta Titanium Alloy containing Vanadium, Iron and Aluminium, Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al on industrial scale for applications in aerospace structural forgings. It has been developed by Defence Metallurgical Research Laboratory (DMRL), a premier Hyderabad based laboratory of DRDO. These alloys are already being used by many developed nations in recent times as beneficial substitute for the relatively heavier traditional Ni-Cr-Mo structural steels to achieve weight savings.

The excellent forgeability of high strength-to-weight ratio Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al alloy facilitates manufacture of intricately configured components for aerospace applications with potential for significant weight savings. Some of the components which may be forged from this alloy include slat/flap tracks, landing gear, and drop link in landing gear – among several others.


The high strength beta titanium alloys are unique due to their higher strength, ductility, fatigue, and fracture toughness – making them increasingly attractive for aircraft structural applications. Furthermore, their relatively lower lifetime cost, owing to superior corrosion resistance in comparison to steels, is an effective trade-off to justify the use of this expensive material in India too.

The DMRL has carried out raw material selection, alloy melting, thermo-mechanical processing, ultrasonics-based Non Destructive Evaluation (NDE), heat treatment, mechanical characterization, and type certification in active collaboration with several agencies.


Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) has identified over 15 steel components which may be replaced by Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al alloy forgings in the near future with a potential of 40% weight savings. The landing gear drop link is the first component forged successfully by ADA at HAL, Bengaluru with DMRL’s involvement and duly certified for airworthiness.


Raksha Mantri Shri Rajnath Singh has congratulated DRDO and the industry for indigenous development of High Strength Metastable Beta Titanium Alloy which will be useful for aerospace structural forgings.


Secretary, Department of Defence R&D and Chairman DRDO Dr G Satheesh Reddy applauded the dedicated efforts by the teams involved in the indigenous development of this technology.

 

[Leonardo Alves]

Did IA said that ATAGS failed in its trials?

Did IA said that because of electric drive the system performed poorly?

If DRDO would have made the gun with hydraulic drive and IA would have asked for all electrical drive, then you and others would have blamed IA for asking star war tech and brought in example of ATHOS which is hydraulics based.
Now when IA wants just a tried and tested mechanism, you are again blaming IA for that.

Now when you order a system, you order a whole ecosystem along with it. So you need to take into account recurring cost of the whole ecosystem. And when you said IA has been taken into loop, then I am sorry buddy, you are living in a parallel universe. Let me show you why?



Within DRDO they have formed a committee to decide on how to make it. They even talked with L&T and BF to join. But did they approached IA?



Now when the trial of ATHOS and others were going on, DRDO already started the preliminary design work. Do you came across any statement whether DRDO has taken IA on board?

https://www.business-standard.com/a...ract-drdo-enters-the-fray-110072900042_1.html

Now read this.



https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...-enter-next-stage-by-june/article25791046.ece

Design works started in 2013 and till 2018 PSQR was not released. So how could you say that DRDO has worked as per requirement of user?

Now I would not squarely blame DRDO on this.
IA should have its own design bureau or atleast they should have liaison officer based out in DRDO.
Less said about MoD is better. Electrical drive/ hydraulic drive, they simply don't care. All they care and concerned about is how much money they could save on a deal.

Dude, if IA say atags failed, do you think it will go down with this government which paraded both versions in republic day under the banner of defense self-sufficiency.

I am of full believe that ARMY IS NOT GOING TO INDUCT ATAGS these guys SINCE time memorial have not known HOW A PROFESSIONAL SUPERPOWER or a STRONG SELF-SUFFICIENT nation army works, so let's leave it there.

Regarding 18 ton behemoth on mountain roads, better buy then SARANG and OFB gun, why so much hell bent on ATHOS inclusion? What is extra in it that I don't understand.

The roads that India is building to the ladakh areas are fully capable of handling 20 Tons at least, otherwise 20 ton JCB will not be there in the mountains removing dirt.

Now please don't say JCBs are not used in Himalayas.

A system is first inducted then it is updated and can be changed.

My simple question is this instead of wasting time on decreasing weight of an already CAPABLE GUN better the ARMY INVEST TIME on Future projectiles.
Because it is them which land on the enemy head.

The ATAGS in it's present form is sufficient enough for mountains and for towing.

And, I want to ask you question, what is the Scania fat BHARAT STAGE rating? although I can say about stallion 6x6 bharat stage rating.

 

[flanker99]

What will this facility be used for?

TVS, DRDO in talks to manufacture ‘Make-in-India’ AWACS

SPV to kickstart TN’s Defence Corridor, put India on global map

www.dtnext.in

 

[Jimih]

Extended Range

 

[abingdonboy]

What will this facility be used for?

TVS, DRDO in talks to manufacture ‘Make-in-India’ AWACS

SPV to kickstart TN’s Defence Corridor, put India on global map

www.dtnext.in

This is very cool, this is for NETRA MK.2 I guess?

 

[arkos]

Extended Range

Makes sense now since Russians have already upgraded Oniks to 800 Km range. So technology is available and BrahMos upgrade should not take much time.

 

[SUPERPOWER]

Makes sense now since Russians have already upgraded Oniks to 800 Km range. So technology is available and BrahMos upgrade should not take much time.

Russian will charge a sky high price for tech tranfer...I am just wondering what technology contirbution Brahmaputra laboratory is giving!!!!

 

[fire starter]

 

[ezsasa]

No Soft ejection launch still?
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In a major boost to Atmanirbhar Bharat & strengthening Indian Army, Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) successfully flight tested indigenously developed low weight, fire & forget Man-Portable Anti-Tank Guided Missile (MPATGM) today: DRDO

The missile was launched from a man-portable launcher integrated with thermal site & the target was mimicking a tank. The missile hit the target in direct attack mode & destroyed it with precision. The test has validated the minimum range successfully: DRDO

All the mission objectives were met. The missile (Man-Portable Anti-Tank Guided Missile) has already been successfully flight-tested for the maximum range. The missile is incorporated with state-of-the-art Miniaturized Infrared Imaging Seeker along with advanced avionics: DRDO

 

[Aditya Ballal]

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[ezsasa]

No Soft ejection launch still?
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In a major boost to Atmanirbhar Bharat & strengthening Indian Army, Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) successfully flight tested indigenously developed low weight, fire & forget Man-Portable Anti-Tank Guided Missile (MPATGM) today: DRDO

The missile was launched from a man-portable launcher integrated with thermal site & the target was mimicking a tank. The missile hit the target in direct attack mode & destroyed it with precision. The test has validated the minimum range successfully: DRDO

All the mission objectives were met. The missile (Man-Portable Anti-Tank Guided Missile) has already been successfully flight-tested for the maximum range. The missile is incorporated with state-of-the-art Miniaturized Infrared Imaging Seeker along with advanced avionics: DRDO

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DRDO ka dhanya ho.. Jai ho.. Soft ejection has been developed

 

[mist_consecutive]

70km from 30km is a serious increase in range (more than double) !

That takes it into Medium-Range SAM category !

 

[FalconSlayers]

70km from 30km is a serious increase in range (more than double) !

Canitserised as well .

 

[Lonewolf]

Canitserised as well .

Addition of a booster and range will go from 75 to 130+