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Reposting in the DRDO thread.. Please Check out this thread.. What do you have to say about VK Thakur's contention that Nirbhay does not feature terrain hugging and does not have an RF Seeker..
AFAIK.
1. Navigation- indigenous ring gyroscope and MEMS based INS.
2. No comments.
3. Terminal guidance- Active Radar Homing. Navigation augmented by GPS/NavIC
4. Project closed is what we thought too, till they put them in limited numbers. News of 7th test in Nov.
* Reports said.... in its 6th test, it successfully flew 'sharper terrain hugging' spanning 5 meters to 2500 meters.
 

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Reposting in the DRDO thread.. Please Check out this thread.. What do you have to say about VK Thakur's contention that Nirbhay does not feature terrain hugging and does not have an RF Seeker..
Both are equally clueless.

A Land attack variant of Brahmos missile uses an Indian INS coupled to an Indian developed quad redundant IRNSS-GPS-GLONASS-GAGAN receiver for pinpoint accuracy ( without using seeker ) against fixed land targets.

So claiming that without seeker pinpoint accuracy is not achievable , given that a land attack variant of brahmos has demonstrated pinpoint accuracy without the same is laughable.

Terminal guidance is primarily required for acquisition and subsequent targetting of moving targets , which is why brahmos AShM variant uses a seeker in addition to INS , inorder to search for and acquire a moving target at terminal range and home on it.

If nirbhay is required to hit fixed targets only , seeker is not mandatory , if hitting moving targets is a requirement then seeker is mandatory.

As for nirbhay I have no idea on the guidance and navigation system it uses. Except for drdo nobody will know anything regarding the same.
 
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Is there any DRDO or private sector project to develop precision guided 155 mm shell like Excalibur or Kranspanol?
 

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@Indx TechStyle
HTW is Heavy Throw-weight ICBM
Akash-NG ER will be our own version of Barak 8 ER.
Pralay 2 will be our 2000km range ASBM.
I still believe Pralay 1 have ASBM version with 350kg warhead and SSM version with 700kg warhead.

@porky_kicker The new missile pic you posted by you with MARV-ish warhead could be Agni 1 Prime. The rendered pic looks elongated.
Bdw you always maintained that akash ng will have 100 km range...might be true
I asked many they says 50 km
Akash 1s is tested upto 40 km....so there is no point to develop another variant with little gain .....so I believe akash ng will have greater range than 50 km
Bdw akash ng is in veil for a while now..no news on it...it was to be tested for now......
Bdw there is a test for 25 km missile...seems test of qrsam
 

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In the midst of escalating border tension, India is preparing to conduct the first user specific trial of the indigenously built hypersonic nuclear-capable missile Shaurya from a defence facility off Odisha coast on Saturday.

Developed by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), the canister-launched missile with a dummy payload will be test fired from a land-based platform in full operational configuration marking the first test of the user series.

The missile, a land variant of Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile (SLBM) K-15, had completed its developmental trials in 2011.

The missile that forms the crucial third leg of India’s nuclear deterrent is less vulnerable to anti ballistic missile defence systems due to its high maneuverability.

“Preparation has reached final stage and the missile is ready for the crucial launch. The countdown has begun after the completion of range integration. If weather favours, the missile will be flight tested as per the schedule,” a senior defence official told TNIE.

The test assumes significance as it is one of the China specific missiles developed by the country. Though India has adopted ‘no-first-use’ policy, if launched from a submarine off the China coast, the missile can cover many of its major cities.

Shaurya can be stored in a composite canister, which makes it easy to handle and transport like the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile.

The missile is so agile that radars across the borders will have less than 400 seconds to detect, track and intercept before it hits the target.

The missile has a unique feature of operation and maintenance. Like a ballistic missile, it is powered by solid fuel, but it can guide itself up to the target like a cruise missile.

Its two-stage rocket accelerates the missile to six times the speed of sound before it reaches an altitude of 40 km, after which it cruises towards the target, a defence scientist associated with the project said.

The sleek and complex missile having a strike range of about 750 km can carry warheads with a payload up to one tonne.

The 10-metre-long weapon system having width of about half-a-metre uses solid propellant which gives it a longer service-life and shorter launch time.

“Shaurya has an element of surprise as it can be kept in locations camouflaged in underground silos from enemy surveillance and the enemies would not be able to detect till it is fired. It cannot be detected by satellite imaging, which makes the system war ready and lethal. The missile can be fired from both land and underwater submarines,” the scientist added
 

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First answer me this , it is directly related to your statement on " our fuel technology sucks "



1. Do you know the fuel mass fraction of the so called 70 ton missile system ?



2. Do you know the specific impulse of the fuel being used in the so called 70 ton missile system ?



3. Do yo know the gross launch weight of the missile in the so called 70 ton missile system ?



And don't divert from the 3 specific questions I have asked. I am expecting an answer to the point.





Of course, I do not or rather can not know those answers. After all, these are supposed to be among the most closely guarded secrets a nation could hold. And even if I were to be privy to such classified information, I simply couldn't just post them here, in a public forum and not expect my doors kicked in by the NIA and what not within an hour!!



And while I know these were rhetorical questions, still I can't help but say it out loud, that if you actually need these figures just to get to the right conclusion, which should have otherwise been painfully obvious to even a 15-year-old autistic kid, then I've got only pity for you.
 

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BHUBANESWAR: India successfully test-fired an advanced version of nuclear capable hypersonic missile Shaurya from a defence facility off the Odisha coast on Saturday.

The surface-to-surface medium range hybrid missile blasted off from a hermetically canister in ground launch mode from the Abdul Kalam Island test range at about 12.10 pm.

“The missile equipped with multiple advanced computing technology, very high accuracy navigation, efficient propulsion, sophisticated control and guidance systems followed the trajectory exactly to the predefined target in Bay of Bengal. The mission was a copy book success,” informed a defence official from New Delhi.

The indigenously developed missile that took off vertically was tracked and monitored through an integrated system of sophisticated radars, electro-optical tracking instruments and a chain of telemetry stations positioned in different points along the east coast. Ships located near the target also tracked and witnessed the final event.

"The missile performed a manoeuvre in the terminal phase and hit the impact point with a few metre accuracy. It is one of the top-10 missiles of the world in its class and adds more teeth to the Indian arsenal," the official added.

The missile capable of deceiving enemy radar is aimed at giving India more options to hit back, in case it is attacked with nuclear weapons. Though sources told The New Indian Express that it was the first user specific trial of the missile, there was no official confirmation from the defence authorities.

The two-staged solid propelled missile, essentially a land variant of Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile (SLBM) K-15 (renamed as B-05), is now under serial production. Capable of performing various roles and easy to operate, it can be used by both the Navy and the Army.

With a strike range of about 750 km, Shaurya is about 10 metres long and its diameter is 0.74 metre. Developed with state-of-the-art indigenous technology, the missile strikes at a speed of Mach 7.5. Its launch weight is 6.2 tonnes and it can carry both nuclear and conventional warheads up to 1000 kg.




Some points -

1. The Shaurya missile did a terminal maneuver in the terminal phase and hit the target with few metres accuracy.

2. The missile is now under series production.
So the missile is already operationally deployed or will soon be deployed.

3. There has been no official confirmation about the test or the result of the rest. For some reason or another the MoD and DRDO want to keep this project under wraps. No customary press releases by DRDO or Kadi Ninda tweets congratulating the DRDO for the test success. New guidance and navigation system utilising the tech advancements made in the last decade.

4. This is a newer variant of the missile with a composite motor and higher energy propellants developed for the Agni-1 P project.

5. In all probability the missile has a ranger greater than 1700 km. B-05 had a 1750 max range with a 250-400 kg warhead.

6. A Ashbm missile based on Shaurya is under developement . This is logical and also doable. Shaurya can already execute maneuvers in the terminal phase besides gliding and coasting for most of its trajectory .
 
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India successfully tests advanced version of nuclear-capable Shaurya ballistic missile

India on Saturday successfully test-fired an advanced version of the Shaurya surface-to-surface nuclear-capable ballistic missile in Odisha. The Shaurya missile can strike targets at a range of around 800 kilometres, and will complement the existing class of missile systems. “It will be lighter and easier to operate,” sources in the government said. In the final phase of its course, the missile moves at hypersonic speeds while moving close to its target, the sources further said. The Defence Research and Development Organisation has lately carried out a slew of missile tests amid heightened tensions with China along the Line of Actual Control. Recent missile tests Laser-guided anti-tank missile The DRDO on Tuesday tested an indigenously developed laser-guided anti-tank guided missile in Maharashtra’s Ahmednagar, the second such successful test firing of the missile in the last 10 days. The missile has a range of up to 5 kms. The missile was fired from an MBT Arjun Tank at KK Ranges in Armoured Corps Centre and School (ACC&S) in Ahmednagar. “The ATGM employs a tandem heat warhead to defeat explosive reactive armour (ERA) protected armoured vehicles in ranges from 1.5-5 km,” the Defence Ministry said in a statement. The ATGM was developed with a capability to launch from multiple launchpads and is currently in the process of technical evaluation trials from the 120-mm rifled gun of MBT Arjun. The Arjun is a 3rd-Gen battle tank developed by the DRDO. BrahMos The DRDO on Wednesday successfully test-fired an extended range of the supersonic cruise missile BrahMos, which is capable of striking targets with precision at a range of more than 400 kms. The test was carried out under the PJ-10 project of the DRDO. This was the second time the extended range version of the BrahMos was tested, wherein the airframe and booster of the missile was developed indigenously.
 

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specifications of ITCM as per various tenders.

weight- 1000 kg
Diameter- 505mm
length- 5600mm

The nose is more pointed signalling higher cruise speed (or terminal velocity).

Payload is the same.
The equipment bay and fuel tank is much smaller.

The engine and intake section has seen refinement not much different.
 

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