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[vishnugupt]

According to a report iaf and navy considering to procure a fighter together.....
It might be Rafale or f18
Bdw f18 is more capable naval fighter (hvtiaf said)
But Rafale is better than f18 in airforce perspective....
Again Rafale has more chance as it is already present in iaf ....so it will preferred

I believe it will be 36 (iaf) + 18(navy) Rafale
And a mix fleet of Rafale and mig29 will be a wiser fleet on ins Vikramaditya and vikrant

Armed forces are as usual busy in import planning while Tejas mk1a, LCH, Arjun mk1a, HTT40, naval Dhruv, Nag, ATGM, and many more weapons are awaiting orders but our Armed forces are not uttering a word.
priorities.....

 

[Akula]

Indian navy wants new CIWS L&T should convert their land based CIWS for naval role.

If true, should be better than that abomination of BMP-2 turret.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

I have seen seen ww2 flak gun system. It could be effective against swarm drone. Basically it's debris in the sky.

Flak gun will be a very cost-effective solution in countering swarm drone systems. The versatile 88mm cannon was Germany’s main heavy antiaircraft—or “flak”—gun during World War II. When an 88mm projectile exploded at altitude, it sent out jagged metal fragments that tore through nearby aircraft. It also left a characteristic black cloud hanging in the sky.

Flak 36 88mm Multipurpose Gun

The versatile 88mm cannon was Germany’s main heavy antiaircraft—or “flak”—gun during World War II. When an 88mm projectile exploded at altitude, it sent out jagged metal fragments that tore through

www.nationalmuseum.af.mil

Also, to be used in a modern setting, it has to be networked with radar and have modern FCS.
However, just like other AA guns it is limited by range and altitude.

Though costly, the ideal solution would be to combine DRDO anti-drone soft-kill system + OFB/L&T developed AK-630 based CIWS + LASTEC developed laser system for hard-kill.

 

[patriots]

Armed forces are as usual busy in import planning while Tejas mk1a, LCH, Arjun mk1a, HTT40, naval Dhruv, Nag, ATGM, and many more weapons are awaiting orders but our Armed forces are not uttering a word.
priorities.....

Lch is not ready yet.... technically...some more subsystems going to be tested...still the 15 lsp deal should have done
Tejas mk1a a done deal

 

[Akula]

Lch is not ready yet.... technically...some more subsystems going to be tested...still the 15 lsp deal should have done
Tejas mk1a a done deal

Missile warning systems?

 

[patriots]

Bdw .... posted 2-3 weeks before that Arjun mk1a will be tested in Jaisalmer......

 

[patriots]

Missile warning systems?

Bro don't know exactly.....
The last time lch was in Leh.......for armoured cockpit test....

 

[patriots]

A source said, “The Mark 1-A includes an improved gunner’s main sight, integrated with automatic target tracking. This would enable the tank crew to track moving targets automatically, and engage them even when Arjun tank is on the move.”

Final trial of Arjun Mark 1-A held in Pokhran - Times of India

The final phase of trials of the battle tank Arjun Mark 1 ALFA, the advanced version of the tank, was held on Monday at Pokhran field firing range in Jaisalmer district. The tank will boost army’s fire power.

m.timesofindia.com

 

[Arihant Roy]

Arjun mk1 alpha has finally completed its last phase of user trials paving the way for the order .

https://m.timesofindia.com/city/jai...leshow/79614042.cms?__twitter_impression=true

 

[porky_kicker]

Bro don't know exactly.....
The last time lch was in Leh.......for armoured cockpit test....

The EW / CMD / IR jammer etc is yet to be integrated , in a recent hal video , they mentioned it is due to validation .

I don't understand why hal has not validated it yet on the 4 lch prototypes.
What are they waiting for . The LSP version is also missing them.

Wish someone would ask them on their twitter handle.

 

[patriots]

The EW / CMD / IR jammer etc is yet to be integrated , in a recent hal video , they mentioned it is due to validation .

I don't understand why hal has not validated it yet on the 4 lch prototypes.
What are they waiting for . The LSP version is also missing them.

Wish someone would ask them on their twitter handle.

Bro ew/ cmd / ir jammer integration won't be a problem ..as already done with rudra ...
I Heard some more tests will be done for some subsystem s
Again in a recent video unnipillai said they will integrate any atgm asked my defence forces

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

 

[porky_kicker]

Bro ew/ cmd / ir jammer integration won't be a problem ..as already done with rudra ...
I Heard some more tests will be done for some subsystem s
Again in a recent video unnipillai said they will integrate any atgm asked my defence forces

It will not be that easy , rudra is a different heli , lch is different . Considerable aerodynamic studies will be required with the different configuration of the sensors. Plus optimal coverage studies will need to be done , plus studies to ensure non interference with lch RCS etc .

If it was not much of a deal , lch by now would have been flying with the sensors , atleast the dummy ones to validate the same.

 

[Arihant Roy]

Bro ew/ cmd / ir jammer integration won't be a problem ..as already done with rudra ...
I Heard some more tests will be done for some subsystem s
Again in a recent video unnipillai said they will integrate any atgm asked my defence forces

I can't recall which interview but I vividly remember the person being interviewed saying that work is going on integrating an IR jammer with HAL Rudra. Now whether it's a flash type lamp or a state of the art DIRCM hasn't been said but I reckon it will be the later since we already have maws to cue the DIRCM turret .

Wait I have remembered . It was an interview of ShriArup Chatterjee who is the Director of R&D in HAL .

 

[Tridev123]

Land based prototype of DRDO AIP

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Extremely important for the future enhanced performance of our conventional submarine force.
A Force multiplier.

Bit disappointing that the Pak navy is ahead of us and already operates AIP equipped French Agosta class submarines. But I believe our Phosphoric Acid AIP is better than the system installed on Pak subs.

Hope we are also carrying out research on Lithium ion battery based AIP.
The Japanese already have a working, operational system on their Soryu class submarines.
More efficient than other comparable systems.

 

[porky_kicker]

Extremely important for the future enhanced performance of our conventional submarine force.
A Force multiplier.

Bit disappointing that the Pak navy is ahead of us and already operates AIP equipped French Agosta class submarines. But I believe our Phosphoric Acid AIP is better than the system installed on Pak subs.

Hope we are also carrying out research on Lithium ion battery based AIP.
The Japanese already have a working, operational system on their Soryu class submarines.
More efficient than other comparable systems.

There is vast difference between using a imported system and developing one.

Any advantage will dry up once own system comes up.

Hence let the local AIP end up first in our submarines .

Also we need to start developing our own conventional submarines before thinking of lithium ion batteries . Meanwhile R&D must continue on the same.

As I say there is a progression to technology. Cannot jump it by looking at what others are doing . Must follow the learning curve.

 

[patriots]

DRDO's Arjun tank demonstrates advanced capability to Army

New Delhi [India], December 8 (ANI): Soon after Prime Minister Narendra Modi took a ride in the Arjun tank on Diwali, senior Indian Army officials were shown the advanced capabilities of the DRDO-manufactured Mark1A version of the tank.

www.aninews.in

 

[patriots]

DRDO's Arjun tank demonstrates advanced capability to Army

New Delhi [India], December 8 (ANI): Soon after Prime Minister Narendra Modi took a ride in the Arjun tank on Diwali, senior Indian Army officials were shown the advanced capabilities of the DRDO-manufactured Mark1A version of the tank.

www.aninews.in

Bdw I personally believe that trial is a longer one . As many subsystems of arjun was also transported with arjun

 

[Tridev123]

There is vast difference between using a imported system and developing one.

Any advantage will dry up once own system comes up.

Hence let the local AIP end up first in our submarines .

Also we need to start developing our own conventional submarines before thinking of lithium ion batteries . Meanwhile R&D must continue on the same.

As I say there is a progression to technology. Cannot jump it by looking at what others are doing . Must follow the learning curve.

Yes, any indigenously developed system will have obvious advantages.
Easy Servicing and periodic upgrades will be possible.
IPR stays with us.

The Pak Navy did zilch as regards the Mesma AIP installed by the French on the Agosta subs.

I believe the Chinese AIP also traces its origin to Swedish Sterling AIP technology.

Can you elaborate on why our development of advanced Lithium ion battery should be held hostage to our planned third stage of submarine building.
Wasn't the original plan - to build 6 P75 subs preferably of Western design and an additional 6 P75i subs of Russian design. And then based on the expertise gained design our indigenous subs 12 nos.

This ambitious plan may take more than a decade to accomplish. Why should our development of Lithium ion technology for submarines wait till our indigenously developed submarines are available.

As regards going through the learning curve fully agree. There are no shortcuts.

 

[porky_kicker]

Yes, any indigenously developed system will have obvious advantages.
Easy Servicing and periodic upgrades will be possible.
IPR stays with us.

The Pak Navy did zilch as regards the Mesma AIP installed by the French on the Agosta subs.

I believe the Chinese AIP also traces its origin to Swedish Sterling AIP technology.

Can you elaborate on why our development of advanced Lithium ion battery should be held hostage to our planned third stage of submarine building.
Wasn't the original plan - to build 6 P75 subs preferably of Western design and an additional 6 P75i subs of Russian design. And then based on the expertise gained design our indigenous subs 12 nos.

This ambitious plan may take more than a decade to accomplish. Why should our development of Lithium ion technology for submarines wait till our indigenously developed submarines are available.

As regards going through the learning curve fully agree. There are no shortcuts.

On the contrary to your wrong interpretation , I said we must continue R&D on lithium ion batteries

Also we need to start developing our own conventional submarines before thinking of lithium ion batteries . Meanwhile R&D must continue on the same.

Unless we do work on lithium ion batteries now , it won't be ready when we need it .