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HTW is Heavy Throw-weight ICBM
Akash-NG ER will be our own version of Barak 8 ER.
Pralay 2 will be our 2000km range ASBM.
I still believe Pralay 1 have ASBM version with 350kg warhead and SSM version with 700kg warhead.

@porky_kicker The new missile pic you posted by you with MARV-ish warhead could be Agni 1 Prime. The rendered pic looks elongated.
 

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HTW is Heavy Throw-weight ICBM
Akash-NG ER will be our own version of Barak 8 ER.
Pralay 2 will be our 2000km range ASBM.
I still believe Pralay 1 have ASBM version with 350kg warhead and SSM version with 700kg warhead.

@porky_kicker The new missile pic you posted by you with MARV-ish warhead could be Agni 1 Prime. The rendered pic looks elongated.
Any test of Pralay 1 ?
 

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Back when it was revealed that Kolkata-class will only have 4x8 Barak SAM's, there was a meltdown on this forum. Then came the rumors that there's a rotating assembly beneath the launcher which will replenish the empty canister (or something similar, can't remember) ... :noidea:
LRSAM VLS is fixed to hull , individual missile cannisters is loaded from top side into the cells of the VLS. No scope of movement of vls / cannister.
 
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That is a decoy launching system. This looks similar to the system on use on Vikramaditya. The missile is very similar to the PK-2 rocket propelled countermeasure system which is used as a chaff/flare dispenser and also uses RF decoys to confuse incoming missiles.

Attaching the video of it. See from 0:20 seconds onwards.

Entirely different system , the one you posted is semi automatic system where rocket is loaded manually .

The one I posted has nothing to do with loading / reloading . What it does is moves the cannister ( with the missile inside ) to firing position from stowage postion . During firing of missile from cannister , the system also provides recoil control . After firing , the empty cannister is moved back to pre firing ( stowage ) position .

The one you posted is seen in vikramaditya only , it is a Russian system.

The one one posted more than 20 nos are in active service . I will not post the exact number.
 

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HTW is Heavy Throw-weight ICBM
Akash-NG ER will be our own version of Barak 8 ER.
Pralay 2 will be our 2000km range ASBM.
I still believe Pralay 1 have ASBM version with 350kg warhead and SSM version with 700kg warhead.

@porky_kicker The new missile pic you posted by you with MARV-ish warhead could be Agni 1 Prime. The rendered pic looks elongated.
Could be let's see
 

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Reposting in the DRDO thread.. Please Check out this thread.. What do you have to say about VK Thakur's contention that Nirbhay does not feature terrain hugging and does not have an RF Seeker..
AFAIK.
1. Navigation- indigenous ring gyroscope and MEMS based INS.
2. No comments.
3. Terminal guidance- Active Radar Homing. Navigation augmented by GPS/NavIC
4. Project closed is what we thought too, till they put them in limited numbers. News of 7th test in Nov.
* Reports said.... in its 6th test, it successfully flew 'sharper terrain hugging' spanning 5 meters to 2500 meters.
 

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Reposting in the DRDO thread.. Please Check out this thread.. What do you have to say about VK Thakur's contention that Nirbhay does not feature terrain hugging and does not have an RF Seeker..
Both are equally clueless.

A Land attack variant of Brahmos missile uses an Indian INS coupled to an Indian developed quad redundant IRNSS-GPS-GLONASS-GAGAN receiver for pinpoint accuracy ( without using seeker ) against fixed land targets.

So claiming that without seeker pinpoint accuracy is not achievable , given that a land attack variant of brahmos has demonstrated pinpoint accuracy without the same is laughable.

Terminal guidance is primarily required for acquisition and subsequent targetting of moving targets , which is why brahmos AShM variant uses a seeker in addition to INS , inorder to search for and acquire a moving target at terminal range and home on it.

If nirbhay is required to hit fixed targets only , seeker is not mandatory , if hitting moving targets is a requirement then seeker is mandatory.

As for nirbhay I have no idea on the guidance and navigation system it uses. Except for drdo nobody will know anything regarding the same.
 
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Is there any DRDO or private sector project to develop precision guided 155 mm shell like Excalibur or Kranspanol?
 

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HTW is Heavy Throw-weight ICBM
Akash-NG ER will be our own version of Barak 8 ER.
Pralay 2 will be our 2000km range ASBM.
I still believe Pralay 1 have ASBM version with 350kg warhead and SSM version with 700kg warhead.

@porky_kicker The new missile pic you posted by you with MARV-ish warhead could be Agni 1 Prime. The rendered pic looks elongated.
Bdw you always maintained that akash ng will have 100 km range...might be true
I asked many they says 50 km
Akash 1s is tested upto 40 km....so there is no point to develop another variant with little gain .....so I believe akash ng will have greater range than 50 km
Bdw akash ng is in veil for a while now..no news on it...it was to be tested for now......
Bdw there is a test for 25 km missile...seems test of qrsam
 

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In the midst of escalating border tension, India is preparing to conduct the first user specific trial of the indigenously built hypersonic nuclear-capable missile Shaurya from a defence facility off Odisha coast on Saturday.

Developed by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), the canister-launched missile with a dummy payload will be test fired from a land-based platform in full operational configuration marking the first test of the user series.

The missile, a land variant of Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile (SLBM) K-15, had completed its developmental trials in 2011.

The missile that forms the crucial third leg of India’s nuclear deterrent is less vulnerable to anti ballistic missile defence systems due to its high maneuverability.

“Preparation has reached final stage and the missile is ready for the crucial launch. The countdown has begun after the completion of range integration. If weather favours, the missile will be flight tested as per the schedule,” a senior defence official told TNIE.

The test assumes significance as it is one of the China specific missiles developed by the country. Though India has adopted ‘no-first-use’ policy, if launched from a submarine off the China coast, the missile can cover many of its major cities.

Shaurya can be stored in a composite canister, which makes it easy to handle and transport like the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile.

The missile is so agile that radars across the borders will have less than 400 seconds to detect, track and intercept before it hits the target.

The missile has a unique feature of operation and maintenance. Like a ballistic missile, it is powered by solid fuel, but it can guide itself up to the target like a cruise missile.

Its two-stage rocket accelerates the missile to six times the speed of sound before it reaches an altitude of 40 km, after which it cruises towards the target, a defence scientist associated with the project said.

The sleek and complex missile having a strike range of about 750 km can carry warheads with a payload up to one tonne.

The 10-metre-long weapon system having width of about half-a-metre uses solid propellant which gives it a longer service-life and shorter launch time.

“Shaurya has an element of surprise as it can be kept in locations camouflaged in underground silos from enemy surveillance and the enemies would not be able to detect till it is fired. It cannot be detected by satellite imaging, which makes the system war ready and lethal. The missile can be fired from both land and underwater submarines,” the scientist added
 

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First answer me this , it is directly related to your statement on " our fuel technology sucks "



1. Do you know the fuel mass fraction of the so called 70 ton missile system ?



2. Do you know the specific impulse of the fuel being used in the so called 70 ton missile system ?



3. Do yo know the gross launch weight of the missile in the so called 70 ton missile system ?



And don't divert from the 3 specific questions I have asked. I am expecting an answer to the point.





Of course, I do not or rather can not know those answers. After all, these are supposed to be among the most closely guarded secrets a nation could hold. And even if I were to be privy to such classified information, I simply couldn't just post them here, in a public forum and not expect my doors kicked in by the NIA and what not within an hour!!



And while I know these were rhetorical questions, still I can't help but say it out loud, that if you actually need these figures just to get to the right conclusion, which should have otherwise been painfully obvious to even a 15-year-old autistic kid, then I've got only pity for you.
 

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