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Refining the tech is better than nak-katwana in field, remember Iron Fist 2016, when the LGB failed to recieve ques from the jet & missed.
Refinement comes with the time. One should not wait till eternity to attain absolute Ideal. failure do happen in battlefield even after 50 years of refinement and it is acceptable. So Tejas washing article is paid and look at exaggerated language like: "Prove is ordered" Really?? Was someone died?
Even a R-73 missile fired from Tejas failed to hit a target.
No. Actually It was fired on a Flare and R-27 passed by it rather than hitting it directly.
AAM success cant be judged by direct hit. It has proximity fuse which activate when missile reached very near to target.
R-73 is shit. it has great capabilities on paper, but both R-77, R-27 are infamous for not performing in the field.
They are very capable missiles and working very well in Syria and Yemen. We are being fed of fake news but Unfortunately our IAF also lies on the behalf of lobbies. Before balakot IAF used to criticize them but after Balakot they brought at least 1500 of these very same missiles
 

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3 different replies on helina.....pick the most credible one...
Bdw I am tired of asking people on helina and nag
If you see status of QRSAM, Helina, Nag, Bombs, LCH, Astra ( recently cleared )many mores, on DRDO website all are being inducted despite of no orders from Armed forces. Once developmental trials done DRDO can safely tell that product is being inducted but in reality, this process may take 100 years.

Armed forces now change the game rules. Initially (1960-70) they used to reject any proposal by DRDO Then they tried sabotage methods they used to kill projects, delaying GSQR, No clear requirements, Buying manufacturing units. after 2000, they start supporting indigenous project but keep them in trials for decades until product becomes outdated, keep giving small small demands.
After Modi They support Indigenous, Do trials, Verbally supports them but never order or if orders ? then only after exhausting all import options. DRDO also happy they completed project and Armed forces also happy Win -win situation for both but Manufacturing units are crying
 

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No shit... Lol.

Might as well wait, unless existing inventory can be updated. LOAL ia quite important for helo-launched ATGM, maybe difference between life & death.


Just because its range is Greater does not make it better than Spice-2000... Neither Gaduda (30km) nor Garuthama (100km+) had got operation clearance.

Refining the tech is better than nak-katwana in field, remember Iron Fist 2016, when the LGB failed to recieve ques from the jet & missed.
we cannot win war by just using spice they are imported and expensive. we need locally developed bombs in large numbers.
 

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@Bleh does helina has jet vanes.................
Ypur own post says what is known.
we cannot win war by just using spice they are imported and expensive. we need locally developed bombs in large numbers.
What war?!.. when Pakis dropped bombs targeting Indian military installations, instead of retaliating India descalated... Now Chinks came into our land & we withdrew from forward positions at LAC in return of disengagement.

There's going to be no war anytime soon. Nehru warred more than Modi ever will.
 

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Ypur own post says what is known.



What war?!.. when Pakis dropped bombs targeting Indian military installations, instead of retaliating India descalated... Now Chinks came into our land & we withdrew from forward positions at LAC in return of disengagement.

There's going to be no war anytime soon. Nehru warred more than Modi ever will.
Is it you @Bleh ?? who is talking such nonsense??
WAR was/is / will a real possibility. India is taking beating from all sides but still we shamelessly claiming strategic wins. Country which go begging for weapons can't win a war ( Egypt-Israel wars are proof ). Every time Tension mount Our mighty forces runs out of critical munitions, Jets.
India keep avoiding war not because we are peace loving country but dependable on others for weapons.
Boundaries can only be decided by war not by any negotiations. Negotiations only for the weak or just time buying maneuvers. Two front war is inevitable for India, fight it or perish because the day China-Pak become competent enough they will not spare us for a second.
 

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India is taking beating from all sides but still we shamelessly claiming strategic wins...

...India keep avoiding war not because we are peace loving country but dependable on others for weapons.
That makes WAR not a real possibility at all. There will be nothing more than border skirmish before 2050 (that too on Paki front). Wanna bet?
Create a thread... We'll get to it every year end, to affirm how right my predictions are.
 

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That makes WAR not a real possibility at all. There will be nothing more than border skirmish before 2050 (that too on Paki front). Wanna bet?
Create a thread... We'll get to it every year end, to affirm how right my predictions are.
Ok Create a thread
 

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Shameful, they have just copy pasted news reports of various publications and even copied idrw to make sensationalist claims. if this the level of effort they have put in an official publication, One can only wonder what kind of effort they put for actual research, this reflects very poorly on DRDO's work culture.
 
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How will it fit?
That's the challenge.
NGARM has dual pulse with just 140kg weight but length is 5.5 meter.

Astra length is 3.5 meter now . So motors will need to be miniaturized and more efficient propellent used to keep dimensions almost same.
 

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That's the challenge.
NGARM has dual pulse with just 140kg weight but length is 5.5 meter.

Astra length is 3.5 meter now . So motors will need to be miniaturized and more efficient propellent used to keep dimensions almost same.
Why not use a booster?.. You sure that's not a concept of Astra 2? I couldn't find the source anymore.
 

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They just tested it from Rudra, intergration with LCH will take time.

BTW @porky_kicker @Karthi @Chinmoy @Shaitan
Is this Astra Mark2?.. Sure looks like Mark1 with booster. View attachment 52566
No it is not astra 2

I have already posted CFD pics of astra 2 , it has fore fins.

Mid body fins are absent .

And the missile in the pic is not similar to astra 1 . How is it similar ? I fail to see any similarities at all .
 

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