Don’t ‘meddle’ in Nepal, Sri Lanka, China media warns India

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India has more advantages in the region, and traditionally has more influence over the countries around. all those ports could have been contracted to India if India sincerely wanted to business and treated those countries fairly.
They allow you because they are short sighted and your government able to bribe them. This is chinese model. They are idiot and fell into China's trap and they have started repenting now. You did same with Tibet years ago. You looted Pakistan on the name of CPEC. Now ordinary Pakistani has realized that they are being cheated. I witness increasing anti china voice in Pakistan media. To make other country dependent economically and then exploit them is the tool of Neo-colonialism. A country which exploits their own citizen and treat them like slave can hardly help any country selflessly. You guys doing same in south Africa.
 

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Modi destroyed Sting of pearl. MM govt was unable sell brahoms because of fear of china. MM government was unable to push back chinese army. Whenever they intruded, MM govt gave a lots of concession to pursue them to go back by giving heavy concession. In one such move Indian army was forced by Indian govt to remove bunker from chinese border. In Modi time when they tried to build a tower in Indian claimed territory, Indian soldiers destroyed that without any warning. MM was unable to take tough stand on china in Arunachal prades. Modi is activating many airfields and have decided to Deploy 100 Brahmos in the area with which whole chinese war infrastructure can be destroyed in Hours. Modi made SL, BD and Maldiv fall in line and now they are co operating with India. Actually the list goes on and on and on but this should be sufficient to explain change in Indian strategy.

BS. Deployment of Brahmos regt for AP was cleared several years back long before Modi came to power. Same as activating the Air fields. India landed the C 130 in Daulat Beg oldi in 2013 close to Chinese Karakoram Pass. As for Brahmos to Vietnam we shall debate it when it's done. Russian consent is required for any such purchase.


And PLA never ceased to breach the sovereignty after Modi became PM. PLA even intruded Indian territory when Xi was given Red Carpet in Gujarat. Also, they have now started to send Jets and Bombers inside Indian territory. Their JH 7 violated Indian airspace last year and their Helicopter regular violates it. Their Subs start docking in Sri Lanka let alone Pak and here you claim Modi destroy String of Pearl :lol:


Same as drilling oil in South China Sea. I won't like to mention the other failures such as in NSG bid and UN resolution on Massod stopped by China several Times.
 

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BS. Deployment of Brahmos regt for AP was cleared several years back long before Modi came to power. Same as activating the Air fields. India landed the C 130 in Daulat Beg oldi in 2013 close to Chinese Karakoram Pass. As for Brahmos to Vietnam we shall debate it when it's done. Russian consent is required for any such purchase.
Who stopped them to deploy Brahmos in last 10 years of UPA in power. I am not talking of 1 or 2 air bases but numbers of airstrip which are cleared for reactivation. The road in Arunachal Pradesh border is now in construction. Now you will say that it was cleared 2 or 3 decades ago. Why all so called plans of UPA was not activated one Decade of UPA rule? Do you have any clue? Russian themselves sells a lots of Stuff to vietnam so no question of saying no.
And PLA never ceased to breach the sovereignty after Modi became PM. PLA even intruded Indian territory when Xi was given Red Carpet in Gujarat. Also, they have now started to send Jets and Bombers inside Indian territory. Their JH 7 violated Indian airspace last year and their Helicopter regular violates it. Their Subs start docking in Sri Lanka let alone Pak and here you claim Modi destroy String of Pearl
BS. When did i say that they never intruded in Indian territory? They intruded in some occasion but modi did not surrendered like UPA when Salman khurshid used to run to china to lick their private parts to withdraw. Once chinese demanded the destruction of Bunkers of Indian army and he agreed to it.
When china intruded in chumar, Modi moved our soldiers to match chinese numbers and kept para commandos ready. China beg for the talk and offered to withdraw. This is the power of Modi government. You must remember the T 72s moved to Ladakh.
Same as drilling oil in South China Sea. I won't like to mention the other failures such as in NSG bid and UN resolution on Massod stopped by China several Times.
That is because they are unable to counter Modi. MM never tried this and Modi is trying to which china opposes in frustration. No issues at all. Modi will get it done.
 

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Modi destroyed Sting of pearl. MM govt was unable sell brahoms because of fear of china. MM government was unable to push back chinese army. Whenever they intruded, MM govt gave a lots of concession to pursue them to go back by giving heavy concession. In one such move Indian army was forced by Indian govt to remove bunker from chinese border. In Modi time when they tried to build a tower in Indian claimed territory, Indian soldiers destroyed that without any warning. MM was unable to take tough stand on china in Arunachal prades. Modi is activating many airfields and have decided to Deploy 100 Brahmos in the area with which whole chinese war infrastructure can be destroyed in Hours. Modi made SL, BD and Maldiv fall in line and now they are co operating with India. Actually the list goes on and on and on but this should be sufficient to explain change in Indian strategy.
I agree with on most of what you've mentioned, except the String of Pearls...

String of Pearls is alive and active...

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The US 5th Fleet, apart from maintaining as many as ten task forces for various operations in the region, also monitors regional maritime activity through various groupings:
Combined Task Force 158 This force patrols the Northern part of the Persian Gulf till Kuwait.
Combined Task Force 152 This force patrols the lower part of the Persian Gulf till the Strait of Hormuz.
Combined Task Force 150 This force undertakes operations related to maritime security enforcement in support of the Coalition Maritime Campaign Plan (CMCP) in the areas outside and adjoining the Persian Gulf.
Combined Task Force 151 This force has specifically been created for countering piracy in the AOR of CTF 150 and apart from general monitoring provides protective cover to the Internationally Recommended Traffic Corridor created in the Gulf of Aden.
NATO Ocean Shield Deployment
http://pervaizasghar.com/2012/11/dominant-naval-presence-in-the-indian-ocean/

Chinese investment in Sri Lanka brings economy development into the country, the port Chinese are building for Lanka will attract merchant ships, making Lanka a key shiping hub in the region. As long as India leaves Lanka alone, it will prosper.
I forgot about Straight of Hormuz.... And USN operate in Straight of Hormuz only

You sure know this, yet you want to say that US is the only force dominating the IOR...

US presence is restricted till Malacca Straight and Straight of Hormuz... And rest is dominated by IN
 

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Who stopped them to deploy Brahmos in last 10 years of UPA in power.
Double Zero regt of Brahmos has been deployed on Eastern Border after 3 years of new govt. Last year they only cleared the proposal in cabinet committee just as before.

As for 10 years of UPA in power Brahmos land version was itself inducted in mid 2007 and it was the earlier Blk 1 and later it was progressively inducted in other blks. Blk 3 ( For mountain warfare ) was developed much later and you want us to induct it in 2007 ?

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Sources said the Cabinet Committee on Security, chaired by PM Narendra Modi, cleared this fourth BrahMos+ regiment at a cost of over Rs 4,300 crore. The regiment consists of around 100 missiles, five mobile autonomous launchers on 12x12 heavy-duty trucks and a mobile command post, among other hardware and software.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ment-for-China-front/articleshow/53514581.cms


Same as before


http://archive.indianexpress.com/ne...les-govt-clears-brahmos-for-arunachal/860799/

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has also cleared the five-year expansion plan for which he had given the green signal earlier. The plan involves fresh accretion of 89,000 troops, with 400 officers.


. The road in Arunachal Pradesh border is now in construction. Now you will say that it was cleared 2 or 3 decades ago. Why all so called plans of UPA was not activated one Decade of UPA rule? Do you have any clue?
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...onstruction-of-1-500-km-highway/1/698745.html



BS. When did i say that they never intruded in Indian territory? They intruded in some occasion but modi did not surrendered like UPA when Salman khurshid used to run to china to lick their private parts to withdraw. Once chinese demanded the destruction of Bunkers of Indian army and he agreed to it.
When china intruded in chumar, Modi moved our soldiers to match chinese numbers and kept para commandos ready. China beg for the talk and offered to withdraw. This is the power of Modi government. .
So by this logic Modi sent jaishankar to China to lick the private parts of Chinese just because of Masood Azhar and NSG both the issue where Chinese stop India.


Or is it because he begged Chinese not to violate our Sovereign territory in Gilgit Baltistan via CPEC ?


I notice he was very successful lol

You must remember the T 72s moved to Ladakh.
Poor knowledge of military History. Tanks have been deployed on Chinese front (conducive for Tank warfare) for Decades now. Both Light Tanks and our Former front line Tank T 55.


Go figure.


That is because they are unable to counter Modi. MM never tried this and Modi is trying to which china opposes in frustration. No issues at all. Modi will get it done.
What are you blabbering ? Re read the part of post and tell me how is it related to that.
 

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Get you head out of your Ass. Indian boots remained on your land for more than 3 years captured Jaffna within 13 days of fighting.

A miltary victory of Indian Armed forces that you still bow their head in front of IPKF memorial constructed in Sri lanka


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Poomalai

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_intervention_in_the_Sri_Lankan_Civil_War
Before the IPKF Jaffna was under SL Government's control. IPKF handed Jaffna on a golden platter to the LTTE. We had to clean up the mess IPKF created.

We Sinhalese has acknowledged the sacrifice IPKF soldiers has done on our behalf. But India went to self ban on commemorating their own jawans just avoid antagonizing Tamilnadu.
 

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Before the IPKF Jaffna was under SL Government's control. IPKF handed Jaffna on a golden platter to the LTTE. We had to clean up the mess IPKF created.
Give me the source and Battle honors of your Army how it captured the Army like We have the source from late 80s how Jaffana was captured in one of the bloodiest battle of Urban Warfare which Asia didn't saw at that Time except few battle in Vietnam war.


US Army is known for Urban combat in Iraq especially Battle of Fallujah but our Indian Army pioneer it back in the late 80s when Jaffana was cleared House by House and every single site was booby trapped.

It took you 2 decades to achieve that.


We Sinhalese has acknowledged the sacrifice IPKF soldiers has done on our behalf. But India went to self ban on commemorating their own jawans just avoid antagonizing Tamilnadu.
I am not aware of this. Give me the source of your claim.
 

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How many died? As usual your brilliant knowledge of history is showing. The opposition was for Hindi. Not against India. During 1930-50 there were fringe elements active but it failed to Gather support even within tamilnadu. support Iron fist lol. If that is iron fist then what was Rajapaksa? AR Rehman is Tamil. So is Dr.Abdul Kalam. Can you take out proof that even such eminent personalities even remotely suggested anything like what you claim? Do you want to know how many SL Tamils protest in Europe Against genocide? As I said before, Lankans are like pakis, living their made up lala dreamland.

PS: even today we have the likes of seeman advocating Tamil nationalism. You can get your head out of the sand and check how many seats he won in every election he contested. Then you will eat your words.
It's similar to the opposition of the Sinhala only act. Anyone with a slightest brain can understand what were the Tamil nationalists wanted back then.

Tamil separatism was prevalent in Tamilnadu until the center went on the hard crack down hard over the separatist.

Anna’s election to the Rajya Sabha in 1962, even as the DMK graduated to become the principal opposition party in the Madras legislature; Anna’s demand in his maiden speech in the Rajya Sabha expounding his goal of an independent Dravida Nadu (Dravidian country), which Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru rejected in the House later; the Sixteenth Amendment to the Indian Constitution, which proscribed advocacy of secession and the DMK’s decision to drop its Dravida Nadu demand,
http://www.frontline.in/politics/tamil-nationalism-then-and-now/article4282662.ece
 

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Every country passes laws for each and every citizen of the nation. Which nations come to exist based on love? You don't seem get the idea of India or nationhood itself. Forged from iron fist? Don't see a context to that comment.
India has to use force to keep the rough states in line and use threat of violence to keep others in line. That's what I meant by the previous comment. Hence India is not the democratic paradise and some people wants to portrait.
 

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India has to use force to keep the rough states in line and use threat of violence to keep others in line. That's what I meant by the previous comment. Hence India is not the democratic paradise and some people wants to portrait.
LOL :pound::pound: says a Lanakan. Irony died a tragic death. I have already told you. Yet YoY still insist on keeping your head stuck into the sand. I think you love seeman whereas half of TN don't even know who he is :pound:

Keep dreaming bro. SLs future is intertwined with India like it or not. You can spout out false propaganda, inflate your false ego anything you choose. But India will decide your future. Deal with it. We changed your previous leader. Better that SL learn to live peacefully. Make peace with it. Or you can do ... well what you are doing now. Supporters of genocidal sadist will meet with horrible end. Karma will take care. I see that evidence means nothing to you. Did you check about Seeman and how many seats he won? I bet you didn't...
 

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Give me the source and Battle honors of your Army how it captured the Army like We have the source from late 80s how Jaffana was captured in one of the bloodiest battle of Urban Warfare which Asia didn't saw at that Time except few battle in Vietnam war.
By the first week of June the government forces managed to gain control over the entire zone and captured large amounts of arms left behind by retreating LTTE forces. Military intelligence discovered that LTTE leader Prabakaran, along with Sea Tiger leader Col. Soosai, narrowly escaped from advancing troops.

The second stage of this operation was launched on June 3, 1987, with the goal of capturing the city of Jaffna, but was abandoned. Indian military cargo planes escorted by fighter aircraft dropped humanitarian relief supplies in the Jaffna area on June 4 in Operation Poomalai. Indian forces landed in Sri Lanka on July 29 with the signing of the Indo-Sri-Lankan accord.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vadamarachchi_Operation

Within a week the Vadamarachchi sector of the peninsula was brought under government’s control, and scores of rebels killed or captured and some of their munitions factories destroyed. However, any ambitions the Sri Lankan government had about widening the operation to cover the entire Jaffna peninsula had to come to an abrupt end when India stepped in, Indian aircraft invading Sri Lankan air space to drop ‘relief supplies’ and the Indian government signalling the likelihood of tougher action if the operations continued.
http://groundviews.org/2012/05/28/operation-liberation-25-years-on/

US Army is known for Urban combat in Iraq especially Battle of Fallujah but our Indian Army pioneer it back in the late 80s when Jaffana was cleared House by House and every single site was booby trapped.

It took you 2 decades to achieve that.
Wrong. We retook Jaffna within 5 years since IPKF withdrawal.

http://www.island.lk/index.php?page_cat=article-details&page=article-details&code_title=62871



I am not aware of this. Give me the source of your claim.
I don't have sources for that but it's a known fact. If not why don't India comemorate IPKF soldiers? Why didn't India built a memorial with in India?
 

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LOL :pound::pound: says a Lanakan. Irony died a tragic death. I have already told you. Yet YoY still insist on keeping your head stuck into the sand. I think you love seeman whereas half of TN don't even know who he is :pound:

Keep dreaming bro. SLs future is intertwined with India like it or not. You can spout out false propaganda, inflate your false ego anything you choose. But India will decide your future. Deal with it. We changed your previous leader. Better that SL learn to live peacefully. Make peace with it. Or you can do ... well what you are doing now. Supporters of genocidal sadist will meet with horrible end. Karma will take care. I see that evidence means nothing to you. Did you check about Seeman and how many seats he won? I bet you didn't...
Yeah you people changed our leader. But you people have failed to stop the Chinese regression in to Sri Lanka. The same fallen leader is set to come back to power in the coming election. Better start preparing for his come back.

I don't care about Seeman. What is his relevance to this discussion? I talked about the past but you just stuck in the present.
 

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Yeah you people changed our leader. But you people have failed to stop the Chinese regression in to Sri Lanka. The same fallen leader is set to come back to power in the coming election. Better start preparing for his come back.

I don't care about Seeman. What is his relevance to this discussion? I talked about the past but you just stuck in the present.

It's not that we failed to stop. We are asking gently. If you do not yield, RAW will deal with you in its own terms.


You don't care who he is ? He's not relevant to the discussion? Are you even reading my posts fully? I don't think you have. You are just glossing over it and randomly vomiting whatever comes to your mind at that point. Omg its like talking to a wall. I suggest you get back. Read what I said about him. And do your homework. Why are you even on a discussion forum if you don't even read fully?
 

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Well personally i think Bharat should increase its trade with Lanka and make their economy dependent on us.U.S.A has done this thing for years like rather than forcefully occupy it and destroy our image as well as having rebel problem we should be more smart. We should make Sri Lanka dependent on us economically.
 

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It's not that we failed to stop. We are asking gently. If you do not yield, RAW will deal with you in its own terms.


You don't care who he is ? He's not relevant to the discussion? Are you even reading my posts fully? I don't think you have. You are just glossing over it and randomly vomiting whatever comes to your mind at that point. Omg its like talking to a wall. I suggest you get back. Read what I said about him. And do your homework. Why are you even on a discussion forum if you don't even read fully?
Port city project is well underway and China is about to sign the deal to lease the H'tota port with 15000 acres of land. Are you going to deal with them after China signed the agreement? Good luck with that.

I talked about the Tamil nationalism and how the central government cracked it down during the 60s. What has seeman got to do with it?
 

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Lol 13 days and 5 years Enough said.
IPKF took over the almost pacified Jaffna. But SLA took over a land controlled almost by the terrorists. Moreover don't compare the 4th biggest army of the world with our puny army back then. We didn't even had good armed tanks back then. We fought with WW2 vintage Saracen tanks FYI.

Then don't make facts out of your Ass. Here is the truth with "facts"

Under Congress Govt


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Under BJP govt


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That apart from regular visit by our Embassy officials and other dignitaries who visit Sri Lanka including the Army chiefs

As for an IPKF memorial in India. There will be a combined war memorial commemorating all our Wars.
You dumb twat. I was pointing out about why there are no memorials in India for IPKF soldiers. Not that how Indian delegates come to Sri Lanka to comemorate their dead IPKF soldiers.

Look for the reason why there is not one single IPKF memorial in India.
 

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