Don’t ‘meddle’ in Nepal, Sri Lanka, China media warns India

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Traitors among themselves , lack of support from Indian side etc.

Otherwise,How do you think they humiliated you as a nation for more than 2 decades ?

How come they are losses when they enslaved your Race several times ? The only loser is you my little Rakshasha friend.

And Tamil have a Nation called India. The home of various sub countries and civilization bonded together by Hinduism.
Sinhalese had more traitors amongest themselves than the LTTE and besides that if it wasn't for India, Sri Lanka would've destroyed LTTE in 1986.

We had a rough relationship with Chola empire. Pandya and Chera kingdoms were both very friendly with Sinhalese from the beginning. So your assumption that Tamils enslaved Sinhalese is utterly wrong.

Being part of a federation just because the bigger power threatened with military action is not how you being drafted in a federation.
 

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We need to come to a conclusion about the word "Discrimination" and what it means. During the times of the Brits, Tamils were over represented in the administrative services; simply because Brtis favored them more than the Sinhalese. This was the case up until the independence. Once the country gains the independence Sinhalese began asserting their right to a fair representation in the administration. This is the cause that made Tamils angry.

How can you justify 250 out of 400 Tamil students (more than 50% representation) where Tamils were just 20% of the overall population at that time? Ain't it a arpathaid system?

Tamils should come to peace with who they are and how they are represented in Sri Lanka. They should reconcile them selves first rather than looking for Sinhalese to do so.
If there had been discrimination in the past, and the Tamils were well-off, it would be no surprise that Tamils continued to dominate the education scene in a fair, merit-based post-independence Sri Lankan system. The Sinhalese were not able to compete with the Tamils in the new "fair" system simply because of a weaker economic and social background historically(which was created by the British). Meanwhile, the Tamils took advantage of their rich heritage and managed to hold on to a majority of the educational opportunities. Inequalities do not go away simply by passing and implementing a law (with good intentions) for creating a fair world. Inequalities tend to die slowly.

Unrelated but similar:-
In India, when our leaders thought of countering the inequalities (created by the British by dividing us along the lines of caste), they created the system of reservations in education and employment opportunities. This made sense at the time, but the planned repeal of the law has been repeatedly deferred since then (due to the rise of the vote-bank politics), and has led to an unfavorable situation for the Indian democracy today.

Though we prevented a Sri-Lanka like situation because our minorities or the erstwhile downtrodden were assisted (unlike in Sri Lanka where they were not), but then they were over-assisted insomuch that it caused a lot of friction with the majority and the well-offs.
 
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gosh, such a tough tone, I am scared.

no need to swear like the war is gonna happen tomorrow. just relax, China wont send warships to challenge Indian hegemony in that region, after all, the indian ocean is actually under the control of Americans.

all ports china is building around indian ocean are for commercial purposes, China is to facilitate economy development in the region, not to bring wars.

indian fellows should stop these war mongering nonsense, and speak some sense.

India has more advantages in the region, and traditionally has more influence over the countries around. all those ports could have been contracted to India if India sincerely wanted to business and treated those countries fairly.
gosh, such a tough tone, I am scared.

no need to swear like the war is gonna happen tomorrow. just relax, China wont send warships to challenge Indian hegemony in that region, after all, the indian ocean is actually under the control of Americans.

all ports china is building around indian ocean are for commercial purposes, China is to facilitate economy development in the region, not to bring wars.

indian fellows should stop these war mongering nonsense, and speak some sense.

India has more advantages in the region, and traditionally has more influence over the countries around. all those ports could have been contracted to India if India sincerely wanted to business and treated those countries fairly.
Well couple of points,

1. When China is your neighbour, no country can relax.... Reason China is way more agressive and if you let your guard down China will strike for sure... We didn't forgot the 1962.... Let's not forget the "intentional" border crossing by PLA

2. Americans don't control the entire IOR, they control from Pacific to Malacca Straight in the IOR and the rest is dominated by IN....Now do you know why Americans control till Malacca...!!??Chinese claims on South China Sea and Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands, apart from these Chinese agressive stance on tiny islands in the South China Sea and man made islands

3. Regarding ports and infrastructure in various countries around India, the less said the better....Hats off to Chinese in one case, their ability to loot nations in the name of Infrastructure and "soft" loans, infact these so called "soft" loans are way too heavy that a new term has been coined on Chinese loans i.e., "Chinese Debt Trap".
 

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Well couple of points,

1. When China is your neighbour, no country can relax.... Reason China is way more agressive and if you let your guard down China will strike for sure... We didn't forgot the 1962.... Let's not forget the "intentional" border crossing by PLA

2. Americans don't control the entire IOR, they control from Pacific to Malacca Straight in the IOR and the rest is dominated by IN....Now do you know why Americans control till Malacca...!!??Chinese claims on South China Sea and Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands, apart from these Chinese agressive stance on tiny islands in the South China Sea and man made islands

3. Regarding ports and infrastructure in various countries around India, the less said the better....Hats off to Chinese in one case, their ability to loot nations in the name of Infrastructure and "soft" loans, infact these so called "soft" loans are way too heavy that a new term has been coined on Chinese loans i.e., "Chinese Debt Trap".
Chinese are there to do business, businessmen wont pose military threat to India, that is all i am suggesting.

US navy dominates indian ocean, period. india's hegemony over IOR is a delusion.

Chinese offer to SL is better than anyone else, that is why china won the contract.
 

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Sinhalese had more traitors amongest themselves than the LTTE and besides that if it wasn't for India, Sri Lanka would've destroyed LTTE in 1986.
India got out from that hellhole in 1989 ~ but it took 2 decades for Lankans to regain the lost territories.
 

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Chinese are there to do business, businessmen wont pose military threat to India, that is all i am suggesting.

US navy dominates indian ocean, period. india's hegemony over IOR is a delusion.

Chinese offer to SL is better than anyone else, that is why china won the contract.
Yeah yeah yeah.....I would estimate China based on PRC actions, not on your posts...

Can you please list out the USN sorties post Malacca Straight with a American source backing your info....Then let's see who is in dillusion...

The real question is how many years it will take for Lankan to go bankrupt and sell all their startegic assets to China like they are about to give Hambantota on 99yr lease...I am guessing it might take 10 more years to go bankrupt @HeinzGud what is your estimate...This is Chinese ability to do business
 

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gosh, such a tough tone, I am scared.

no need to swear like the war is gonna happen tomorrow. just relax, China wont send warships to challenge Indian hegemony in that region, after all, the indian ocean is actually under the control of Americans.

all ports china is building around indian ocean are for commercial purposes, China is to facilitate economy development in the region, not to bring wars.

indian fellows should stop these war mongering nonsense, and speak some sense.

India has more advantages in the region, and traditionally has more influence over the countries around. all those ports could have been contracted to India if India sincerely wanted to business and treated those countries fairly.
"Such a tough tone, I'm scared". What an irony that a Chinese is saying it. Cause it's Exactly what everyone's saying in response to China's rhetoric. Don't worry. New thread is coming up to track of the near OCD levels of rants by China. You can go all red faced there. Hope you will comment there instead of staying away. Maybe instead of issuing warnings to random countries on an hourly basis, China should learn to work with its neighbors. Especially deliberately working against Indian interests in Pakistan knowing full well the situation. You get what you sow. Hope China understand it and stop with it's comical levels of warnings. Stop the nonsensical rhetoric warnings every time given every time Xi feels an itch. And take a bit of advice you are offering. There is also a thread coming up in Chinese copied goods. Hope to see you there too. You can share your unlimited wisdom there. Your posts means nothing only CCPs actions and rhetoric is what's discussed here. You don't seem to offer a balanced view, despite asking others to do so many times. You turn a blind eye to the antics of CCP.

Your advice would be great if only you weren't from a rhetoric loving country throwing out warnings every single day. Maybe later bro. Hope CCP develops some sense and learn to work peacefully. Then come back, and post stuff that makes you look like a guy with high intellect. Right now, it only makes you look like a hypocritical Comedian trying to look smart thanks to the actions of CCP. Good day mate.
 
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China is about to sign the deal to lease the Hambantota harbor for 99 years with 15 acres of land. What has India done to prevent it? You talk about ships being docked in Hambantota when in reality the entire H'tota area is given to China for 99 years.
You can sign whatever you want. Do whatever you want. My point stands.
 

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More like 80 million loosers who can't even establish their own country.
How is anyone a looser living in a nation as diverse as India? Why do people need to establish a separate country when living in a democracy choosing how to live their live, making all their choices by thmeselves and chossing their own leaders? Are you saying, there should be a separate nations based on religion, caste, region, language, color etc.?
 

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If there had been discrimination in the past, and the Tamils were well-off, it would be no surprise that Tamils continued to dominate the education scene in a fair, merit-based post-independence Sri Lankan system. The Sinhalese were not able to compete with the Tamils in the new "fair" system simply because of a weaker economic and social background historically(which was created by the British). Meanwhile, the Tamils took advantage of their rich heritage and managed to hold on to a majority of the educational opportunities. Inequalities do not go away simply by passing and implementing a law (with good intentions) for creating a fair world. Inequalities tend to die slowly.

Unrelated but similar:-
In India, when our leaders thought of countering the inequalities (created by the British by dividing us along the lines of caste), they created the system of reservations in education and employment opportunities. This made sense at the time, but the planned repeal of the law has been repeatedly deferred since then (due to the rise of the vote-bank politics), and has led to an unfavorable situation for the Indian democracy today.

Though we prevented a Sri-Lanka like situation because our minorities or the erstwhile downtrodden were assisted (unlike in Sri Lanka where they were not), but then they were over-assisted insomuch that it caused a lot of friction with the majority and the well-offs.
Tamils wanted a arpathaid system from the beginning. That's the issue in Sri Lanka. Tamils don't want to accept the reality.
 

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India got out from that hellhole in 1989 ~ but it took 2 decades for Lankans to regain the lost territories.
India got kicked out. Sri Lanka has to clean up the mess created by India.
 

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Yeah yeah yeah.....I would estimate China based on PRC actions, not on your posts...

Can you please list out the USN sorties post Malacca Straight with a American source backing your info....Then let's see who is in dillusion...

The real question is how many years it will take for Lankan to go bankrupt and sell all their startegic assets to China like they are about to give Hambantota on 99yr lease...I am guessing it might take 10 more years to go bankrupt @HeinzGud what is your estimate...This is Chinese ability to do business
This drama will continue hopefully the next government comes in to power.
 

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How is anyone a looser living in a nation as diverse as India? Why do people need to establish a separate country when living in a democracy choosing how to live their live, making all their choices by thmeselves and chossing their own leaders? Are you saying, there should be a separate nations based on religion, caste, region, language, color etc.?
India has to pass laws to keep TN in line. If not, they would've created a separate country long ago. The relationship didn't based upon love. It was forged from iron fist rule.
 

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India has to pass laws to keep TN in line. If not, they would've created a separate country long ago. The relationship didn't based upon love. It was forged from iron fist rule.
How many died? As usual your brilliant knowledge of history is showing. The opposition was for Hindi. Not against India. During 1930-50 there were fringe elements active but it failed to Gather support even within tamilnadu. support Iron fist lol. If that is iron fist then what was Rajapaksa? AR Rehman is Tamil. So is Dr.Abdul Kalam. Can you take out proof that even such eminent personalities even remotely suggested anything like what you claim? Do you want to know how many SL Tamils protest in Europe Against genocide? As I said before, Lankans are like pakis, living their made up lala dreamland.

PS: even today we have the likes of seeman advocating Tamil nationalism. You can get your head out of the sand and check how many seats he won in every election he contested. Then you will eat your words.
 

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Get you head out of your Ass. Indian boots remained on your land for more than 3 years captured Jaffna within 13 days of fighting.

A miltary victory of Indian Armed forces that you still bow their head in front of IPKF memorial constructed in Sri lanka


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Poomalai

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_intervention_in_the_Sri_Lankan_Civil_War
He doesn't quite understand the concept of 'facts'. It just flies right over his head.
 

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India has to pass laws to keep TN in line. If not, they would've created a separate country long ago. The relationship didn't based upon love. It was forged from iron fist rule.
Every country passes laws for each and every citizen of the nation. Which nations come to exist based on love? You don't seem get the idea of India or nationhood itself. Forged from iron fist? Don't see a context to that comment.
 

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Case 1 : India loosing war to china is very likely.. we may not loose so much of our territory but china will take just what it wants . POK and parts of JK ladakh region and entire Arunachal and possible Sikkim tooo . But this defeat will start a chain of reactions , Especially from the NE states who will start the separate country movement s ..We may even see half of WB trying to get shifted to Bangladesh and parts of Lower assam too and who knows even the hyper nationalist Tamil tigers will try to create a situation in TN for secession from India ..
By your terms China should have attacked immediately na dcapture whatever it wants from weak India.. I think Chinese thin-tank should follow you for their future battle plan..

Sir.. India wont lose any war with china in any given time.. We might not be able to defeat China but we wont lose it also.. it will be in hung state.. where whoever attacked first most likely China would have to back off from war front..

They know what is India capable of..thats why they are not attacking... military advancement and war fighting skill of Indian armed forces now very rigid by doing continuous war with insurgents.. and India has very good knowledge about mountain warfare where the war will be fought.. its not always about number games its also about tactics and how to use them along with intention..
 

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Yeah yeah yeah.....I would estimate China based on PRC actions, not on your posts...

Can you please list out the USN sorties post Malacca Straight with a American source backing your info....Then let's see who is in dillusion...

The real question is how many years it will take for Lankan to go bankrupt and sell all their startegic assets to China like they are about to give Hambantota on 99yr lease...I am guessing it might take 10 more years to go bankrupt @HeinzGud what is your estimate...This is Chinese ability to do business
The US 5th Fleet, apart from maintaining as many as ten task forces for various operations in the region, also monitors regional maritime activity through various groupings:
Combined Task Force 158 This force patrols the Northern part of the Persian Gulf till Kuwait.
Combined Task Force 152 This force patrols the lower part of the Persian Gulf till the Strait of Hormuz.
Combined Task Force 150 This force undertakes operations related to maritime security enforcement in support of the Coalition Maritime Campaign Plan (CMCP) in the areas outside and adjoining the Persian Gulf.
Combined Task Force 151 This force has specifically been created for countering piracy in the AOR of CTF 150 and apart from general monitoring provides protective cover to the Internationally Recommended Traffic Corridor created in the Gulf of Aden.
NATO Ocean Shield Deployment
http://pervaizasghar.com/2012/11/dominant-naval-presence-in-the-indian-ocean/

Chinese investment in Sri Lanka brings economy development into the country, the port Chinese are building for Lanka will attract merchant ships, making Lanka a key shiping hub in the region. As long as India leaves Lanka alone, it will prosper.
 

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All these are 10 years old development nothing to do woth Modi.
Modi destroyed Sting of pearl. MM govt was unable sell brahoms because of fear of china. MM government was unable to push back chinese army. Whenever they intruded, MM govt gave a lots of concession to pursue them to go back by giving heavy concession. In one such move Indian army was forced by Indian govt to remove bunker from chinese border. In Modi time when they tried to build a tower in Indian claimed territory, Indian soldiers destroyed that without any warning. MM was unable to take tough stand on china in Arunachal prades. Modi is activating many airfields and have decided to Deploy 100 Brahmos in the area with which whole chinese war infrastructure can be destroyed in Hours. Modi made SL, BD and Maldiv fall in line and now they are co operating with India. Actually the list goes on and on and on but this should be sufficient to explain change in Indian strategy.
 

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