Do you think this is the best time to declare a war ?

[nongaddarliberal]

Let the s400 and Rafale come in fully.

 

[Brimstone]

We need a one good reason to justify a war on Pak on International forum.

We declared that PoK is ours. We will be taking our land back which is illegally occupied by Porks.

 

[hit&run]

Broadswords are not kept in a locker not even in sword-cases; they are always out on the dining tables.

Chutiyas don't know the war has nothing to do with any bullshit you people are trying to add into the mix.

Simply tell Forces and they will obliterate Pakistan.

Militaries are not made to run with the engines of your industries. They are kept separately and are absolutely dispensable.

Fudu saley.

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

What happened to earlier speculations of Hajipir, Akhnoor dagger taken over by IA. Any cross references to confirm that we really did that or it was a hoax...

I think it was claimed by some twiterattis only, not by govt or army.

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

Broadswords are not kept in a locker not even in sword-cases; they are always out on the dining tables.

Chutiyas don't know the war has nothing to do with any bullshit you people are trying to add into the mix.

Simply tell Forces and they will obliterate Pakistan.

Militaries are not made to run with the engines of your industries. They are kept separately and are absolutely dispensable.

Fudu saley.

Elaborate more plz .. what is your point?

 

[hit&run]

Elaborate more plz .. what is your point?

Forces are broadswords; always heavy, sharp and ready to be wielded.

War has nothing to do with how your economy is doing or how the world perception is about you.

They don't care if a politician is a peacenik or a hawk or monkeying around one nation after another on his special plane to get the world on its side.

Military might is always nurtured, strengthened and sharpened in a vacuum where no political, social or financial influence is allowed to change the way they fight.

One can waste all his time decoding what a General has said or a politician has bragged or a fanboy has envisioned. One can argue ad-nauseam which weapon is good and which Jet we must buy. The demands are never-ending.

But If there is a need they are ready to attack. Their blueprints are always on the desk and good to go.

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

Forces are broadswords; always heavy, sharp and ready to be wielded.

War has nothing to do with how your economy is doing or how the world perception is about you.

They don't care if a politician is a peacenik or a hawk or monkeying around one nation after another on his special plane to get the world on its side.

Military might is always nurtured, strengthened and sharpened in a vacuum where no political, social or financial influence is allowed to change the way they fight.

One can waste all his time decoding what a General has said or a politician has bragged or a fanboy has envisioned. One can argue ad-nauseam which weapon is good and which Jet we must buy. The demands are never-ending.

But If there is a need they are ready to attack. Their blueprints are always on the desk and good to go.

Sorry to say, im not agreed . This is pretty much immature to say that timing is not important when we discuss war.
Look at the history of india's wars with Pakistan. We waited till December in 1971. Pakistan occupied kargil when weather was bad.
And this is 2019. War means business. If we fail diplomatically, we can lose what we have achieved in that war.
So timing is most important. Here we are discussing the same thing.
I know army is ready anytime but they also discuss timing whenever defence experts sit with PM.

 

[Pulakeshin]

Hi I am new on this forum.

What I feel personally is that we need to develop ourselves economically, sports wise as well as have a strong diplomatic standing. If we start developing ourselves technologically, cleanliness wise, sports wise and economically, the world will automatically start respecting us. We don't need to do anything. Let Pakistanis see that they are losing to India in every sphere of their life. That will be the biggest victory. Even bigger than a military victory.

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

Hi I am new on this forum.

What I feel personally is that we need to develop ourselves economically, sports wise as well as have a strong diplomatic standing. If we start developing ourselves technologically, cleanliness wise, sports wise and economically, the world will automatically start respecting us. We don't need to do anything. Let Pakistanis see that they are losing to India in every sphere of their life. That will be the biggest victory. Even bigger than a military victory.

Mate, you don't understand jihadi mind. They are ready to eat grass to kill you.
Even if we try to make peace and try to make progress (which we are doing ), jihadis will blast your malls and trade centre.
So we have to finish it once for all to live in peace forever. We have to create more Bangladesh around us to make peaceful environment for our future generations.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Let Pakistanis see that they are losing to India in every sphere of their life.

When it comes to Pakistan, it has already lost against India in every aspect. They aren't a nation with aspirations to be successful. India has already been doing much more in all sectors for decades & still has trajectory upwards. As for "world", people who hate us today are so purely ideologues or racial complexes and won't be Indophile even if we turn world upside down.

They are only happy trudging and survive. Live today to do more terror attacks another day.

 

[abingdonboy]

Dear Indian members,
Pakis are in mess right now, militarily and economically.
May be India is also not doing good economically. But we indian civilians fed up with this Kashmir issue. Its hurting our economy and taking lives of our brave heart through militantacy spreaded by pakis in Kashmir.
What do you think that "is this the best time to declare a war on pakis and end this mess once for all"?
Or we should wait till 2022 when we get 36 refale and S 400?? What are your views on that?
Plz participate in poll and give a your views too.
Thanks.

Nonsense.

India’s number 1/2/3/4/5/xxx priorities are the ECONOMY.

any kind of major escalation will only jeopardise this.

Forget Pakistan, China is India’s real long term foe and a conflict with Pakistan only benefits China, I am 100% sure that’s why China is using Pakistan as a proxy against India.


Focus on the economy, contain Pakistan and the threat from Pakistan and modernise they military with a view against China.

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

Nonsense.

India’s number 1/2/3/4/5/xxx priorities are the ECONOMY.

any kind of major escalation will only jeopardise this.

Forget Pakistan, China is India’s real long term foe and a conflict with Pakistan only benefits China, I am 100% sure that’s why China is using Pakistan as a proxy against India.


Focus on the economy, contain Pakistan and the threat from Pakistan and modernise they military with a view against China.

Can't you see kashmir issue and proxies are hurting economy? ? Or want to act as blind?
We have to settle kashmir and proxies to save our economy from major demage in long run.

 

[abingdonboy]

Utter BS ...Who told u 'by only cucking u will become ECONOMICALLY prosperous'?

USA - The biggest war monger in the history of humanity is the richest economy in the world and it will remain for decades to come.

Even next to US.... UK,French,Germany,Russia&etc are look peaceful countries to u?

today is a globalised world, you can’t compare the 15/16/17/18/19 centuries and colonial enterprises of Europeans to today. Nor is it appropriate to compare India to the world’s global financial and economic centre (USA).

as a developing country in the 21st century anything that creates uncertainty or instability in India or its region WILL hurt economically

Can't you see kashmir issue and proxies are hurting economy? ? Or want to act as blind?
We have to settle kashmir and proxies to save our economy from major demage in long run.

yes it’s said that terrorism and disorder costs India about 1-2% of GDP a year but how much do you think war will cost? Easily 5-6%.


Terrorism is sadly a cost India has to accept for now, what is needed is a more aggressive “mowing the lawn” policy- strengthen homeland defence, boost police modernisation, engage in decapitation strikes across the border to disrupt anti-Indian groups etc etc.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

today is a globalised world, you can’t compare the 15/16/17/18/19 centuries and colonial enterprises of Europeans to today. Nor is it appropriate to compare India to the world’s global financial and economic centre (USA).

as a developing country in the 21st century anything that creates uncertainty or instability in India or its region WILL hurt economically


yes it’s said that terrorism and disorder costs India about 1-2% of GDP a year but how much do you think war will cost? Easily 5-6%.


Terrorism is sadly a cost India has to accept for now, what is needed is a more aggressive “mowing the lawn” policy- strengthen homeland defence, boost police modernisation, engage in decapitation strikes across the border to disrupt anti-Indian groups etc etc.

India is already in war......
Our defence spending is 20% of our total budget more than combined what we spend on education pension and food.
You can calll it covert war or anything.
And seeing government stance they are not going to talk to pakis. So escalation at border will only increase which is happening.

People need to understand that the thing we are facing is a civilization struggle of india and this will continue so do our defence spending. And we are at war we lose more than thousand troops a year in this proxy war. And more civilians. More resources.
Now days we are just making extra push.

Question should be how we should end this war.

 

[Nicky G]

First things first, what would be the goal of such a war? What do we actually want to achieve? Short-term, medium and long term or is it the endgame? Can there be an endgame?

Regain our land? Split Pork? Destroy their ability of asymmetric warfare?

Once you define, what you actually want to achieve, we proceed for there by analyzing the pros and cons and then get to the cost and benefits, including our state and geopolitics.

 

[cyclops]

I think we have to first define what war & defeat actually mean in the Indian context.

Imho, in terms of military hardware we are technically already on the upper foot, better equipment in the future will surely up our warfighting capability but that doesn't mean pakistan will stay stagnant either.

Are we just pissed off that pakis are pricking us now and then in the border, thru terrorist attacks & defaming our culture in cahoots with commies?
And do we just want to out-muscle them until the next time they have stabilized and our leaders under the guise of liberalism have given them the leeway to slide back into their cowardly tactics?
Do we just want a limited conflict, which may not be "quick" & get protracted before we do eventually win & there might be sanctions since the big powers wouldn't be involved following such a conflict?

Or do we truly want to defeat pakistan in every sense of the word 'defeat'?

Because, imho, whether we want to believe it or not, we need some amount of support from the rest of the world, either to shut up while we pound pakistan or outright support us.
We would also need relatively enough civil & economic discord in pakistan that allows for the possibility of a Civil War like situation and to capitalize on the it we would possibly need bases in Afghanistan and Iran to defeat, occupy and then balkanize pakistan(like in 1971); and estimate if it is really worth keeping some of their territories and making the others independent.

And then see If the rest of the world is with us in doing a sort of Tokyo trials or a Nuremberg trials for pakistan(ww2 might have defeated Germany & Japan but the trials defeated their spirit); something to truly drag their name in the mud, i.e. absolutely humiliate them & kill their will to retaliate, ever.

If we want the later, then I don't think we are ready to go into a war.

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

First things first, what would be the goal of such a war? What do we actually want to achieve? Short-term, medium and long term or is it the endgame? Can there be an endgame?

Regain our land? Split Pork? Destroy their ability of asymmetric warfare?

Once you define, what you actually want to achieve, we proceed for there by analyzing the pros and cons and then get to the cost and benefits, including our state and geopolitics.

Simple mate.. create more bangladesh around us. And we have to do it anyhow for prosperous and progressive subcontinent.
Otherwise this is not gonna end.

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

today is a globalised world, you can’t compare the 15/16/17/18/19 centuries and colonial enterprises of Europeans to today. Nor is it appropriate to compare India to the world’s global financial and economic centre (USA).

as a developing country in the 21st century anything that creates uncertainty or instability in India or its region WILL hurt economically


yes it’s said that terrorism and disorder costs India about 1-2% of GDP a year but how much do you think war will cost? Easily 5-6%.


Terrorism is sadly a cost India has to accept for now, what is needed is a more aggressive “mowing the lawn” policy- strengthen homeland defence, boost police modernisation, engage in decapitation strikes across the border to disrupt anti-Indian groups etc etc.

The difference between you and me is, im thinking about long run and you are thinking about limited race .