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What a complete shitshow all around. China must be laughing.
Indeed. All the main protagonists are out now : Boris Johnson and Morrison (Biden is just a follower).
Just remain Australia without subs for at least 10 years and a far bigger bill.
 

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Time for France to tighten relationship with India- offer nuke reactor tech for submarine, aircraft carrier and rope India closely in UCAV , 5th gen prog from scratch. Dassault is only going to gain captive military and civilian market if it closely forms parternership which is substantially more than typically ToT giri it offers.
 

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‘Unlikely to materialize. Right now US and Europe is fighting a white man’s war. That is not finished yet. Even if there is a stalemate, tension and active finger pointing will continue, hence no time or money for AUKUS. Moreover AUKUS is Australia centric where US grabbed the nuclear submarine building contract from France. Nothing has happened yet. QUAD is a better idea but again on the back burner as Biden is fighting a white man’s war.
 

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Time for France to tighten relationship with India- offer nuke reactor tech for submarine, aircraft carrier and rope India closely in UCAV , 5th gen prog from scratch. Dassault is only going to gain captive military and civilian market if it closely forms parternership which is substantially more than typically ToT giri it offers.
nuke reactor - India uses russian type reactor[heu] and french uses leu. No country can match or come close to russia in tech transfer to india - russian tech is the life line of indian defence industry. In Order to beat russia, first french need to beat usa, then italy after that eu after that israel - a long long way to go.
French still unable to conclude a single jv with india like US - a total failure.
India need to work close with russia, israel to acquire maximum [85%] of tech, and absorb it to local r&d.
 

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nuke reactor - India uses russian type reactor[heu] and french uses leu. No country can match or come close to russia in tech transfer to india - russian tech is the life line of indian defence industry. In Order to beat russia, first french need to beat usa, then italy after that eu after that israel - a long long way to go.
French still unable to conclude a single jv with india like US - a total failure.
India need to work close with russia, israel to acquire maximum [85%] of tech, and absorb it to local r&d.
You always learn from everyone. French have better civilian reactors(safe) and have working nuke aircraft carrier. Yeah rest your concern french not able to conclude single jv or even honor offsets, is a concern. But as I said - France should act fast , secure Indian market by being forthcoming on meaningful collab. As I see US may try to upset Russian and French apple cart in India, just like it did with france in Austrslia
 

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nuke reactor - India uses russian type reactor[heu] and french uses leu. No country can match or come close to russia in tech transfer to india - russian tech is the life line of indian defence industry. In Order to beat russia, first french need to beat usa, then italy after that eu after that israel - a long long way to go.
French still unable to conclude a single jv with india like US - a total failure.
India need to work close with russia, israel to acquire maximum [85%] of tech, and absorb it to local r&d.
Well said….
 

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You always learn from everyone. French have better civilian reactors(safe) and have working nuke aircraft carrier. Yeah rest your concern french not able to conclude single jv or even honor offsets, is a concern. But as I said - France should act fast , secure Indian market by being forthcoming on meaningful collab. As I see US may try to upset Russian and French apple cart in India, just like it did with france in Austrslia
Nuclear tech- French uses LEU for both but we use HEU both and we are fully capable of developing next gen civilian nuclear reactors and the main problem is not nuclear tech but nuclear fuel & we already scrapped nuclear deal with french & US.
Australia/French - it gets cancelled due to huge costs, unable conclude/meet tech/work share as planned and its similar to mmrca 1.0 deal with french.
''France should act fast '' -- we are trying to conclude engine jv with french for more than a decade with zero results.
Wait and watch how engine jv with french progressing and end results after that you can dream of french replacing USSR/Russia.
 

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Totally unrelated and should be moved to proper thread .

Guy above is asking that in the light of targeted attacks and propoganda against Hindus across the World by muslim (mostly from Indian subcontinent) , will France have a stand in favour or remain neutral or against the fight to address hinduphobia and misinterpretation of our religion and our history , if a right wing government wins?
Is India ready to do so ?

What are the initiatives the gov has taken so far to address it within India ?

Bhaiya khaali ghada mat bajao. Yeh simping kab bund hogi.
 

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Australian taxpayers taken for a ride by US military industrial complex.

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Australia to buy up to 5 second hand US Virginia class SSN in the 2030s.

* Then US/UK/Aust will develop a new AUKUS class SSN to be build in Australia from 2040s.

* Australia’s second hand Virginia class to be retired from 2050s when AUKUS class supposedly comes on line.

* Estimated cost close to AUD$400 billion over 30 years. I expect this amount to be higher.

* Media in US/UK/Aust has created China hysteria and US Military Industrial complex, knowing Australia is a very rich country, cashes in on it.

* Australia has no history working with any form of nuclear and has a very small navy. Chances are US and UK Naval personnel will make up large part of Australian SSN crew.

* AUKUS attempting to be NATO of the Indo Pacific of sorts. UK has no business being in these parts, they cant even secure the Atlantic and their part of the world.

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Australian taxpayers taken for a ride by US military industrial complex.

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Australia to buy up to 5 second hand US Virginia class SSN in the 2030s.

* Then US/UK/Aust will develop a new AUKUS class SSN to be build in Australia from 2040s.

* Australia’s second hand Virginia class to be retired from 2050s when AUKUS class supposedly comes on line.

* Estimated cost close to AUD$400 billion over 30 years. I expect this amount to be higher.

* Media in US/UK/Aust has created China hysteria and US Military Industrial complex, knowing Australia is a very rich country, cashes in on it.

* Australia has no history working with any form of nuclear and has a very small navy. Chances are US and UK Naval personnel will make up large part of Australian SSN crew.

* AUKUS attempting to be NATO of the Indo Pacific of sorts. UK has no business being in these parts, they cant even secure the Atlantic and their part of the world.

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Totally US made subs, with most of the crew americans....
Now it's crystal clear : Australia is becoming the 51th USA state. GB to become the 52th.
 

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hidden messages for those in the club?

story is interesting but look at the "leaders" in the pic. A pink man, undead white man and brown man. Strawberry, Vanilla, Chocolate
They make Neapolitan Ice cream. Neopolitan Ice cream comes from Naples originally called Neapolis...the New City. A hidden reference to the new city, new home planned for the vampires, parasites and their servants.

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I was waiting for Nepal connection..
 

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I was waiting for Nepal connection..
No wonder France has started working with Brazil and India to develop nuclear submarines with them since AUKUS has pretty much thrown the NPT under the bus. Don't be surprised if the Chinese started supplying nuclear submarines everywhere now, including to anti-American countries like Iran or even our dear neighbours, the Pakistanis.
 

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