Did the surgical strikes actually end up harming India's interests?

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Again don't compare India with Israel and Pakistan with Palestine. Our situation is unique.
Israel fought with countries 10 times bigger than itself. You think it only fought with Palestinians. Once, Baluchistan goes..see what happens. If there was a defense forum in the 60's people like you would have called liberation of Bangladesh a wet dream. Plans have to be made and executed, not live in fear. Pakistan toh palestine banega..whether you like it or not.
 

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Israel fought with countries 10 times bigger than itself. You think it only fought with Palestinians. Once, Baluchistan goes..see what happens. If there was a defense forum in the 60's people like would have called liberation of Bangladesh a wet dream. Plans have to be made and executed, not live in fear. Pakistan toh palestine banega..whether you like it or not.
Israel has US, UK, French and major western power support.
More ever their opponents were incompetent and to a degree un-educated. Our adversary is competent, educated and motivated.
In case of war no one would support us and on the contrary western power will even aid Pakistan. We need to tread carefully.
I believe you understand difference between Baluchistan and Bangladesh.
 

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Please don't compare Israeli adversaries with our. Palestine no nothing compare to Pakistan. Our is a very unique scenario.
Our adversary is educated, motivated and well financed as compared to Palestine.
One must not forget Israel has unconditional US and Western world's backing. We are on our own.
All I say conduct this operation covertly.
the comparison is not on the basis of what nature of or how capable one's adversary is, but on the basis of the conviction of your stand.
certainly the central dispensation and the Armed Forces' command know about it better than you or me, and thus base their actions about it.

India has/had been like a birdling that even well after getting its wings, feared to venture far from its home-tree.
the action here indeed was taken covertly. what was made public, was, the message. we need not fret about it, for we've spent decades in pursuing the same old approach of getting on backfoot if a pebble is thrown at us while we had a mountain to throw back at the aggressor. what did that achieve, and against what cost?! this time, a seminal change in stand was taken. why not atleast wait 'n watch what fruits it bears? the broadcast of the message was absolutely necessary for atleast these reasons:

1. yes, to call out the packi new-kilear bluff!

2. to send a clear message to the owner of pack, ie, cheen

3. to catch the predator by surprise! surely it must've been anticipating at the max only cross-border raids to redeem the IA's paltan's izzat, & which wouldn't have been relayed publicly. this time, the PA was caught clueless & pyajamas-down!

4. to show the conviction we have in our stand/cause. only one who's strong-willed and having a strong conviction would see support for itself, as our history in this particular matter says all.
IMO this couldn't have come at a more appropriate time, when pack was already getting thoo-thoo'ed from all over. why not get even more thoo-thoo directed at it 'surgically' by shoving it in a corner? this thoo is only going to increase with time. afterall, barring a couple, everybody has unlimited thoo to thoo over the TSP.

5. chaudhary sam's 'disenchantment' with their old beggar-with-an-attitude, esp. with the latter falling more & more in the chinese bag. so one old 'protector' already out. the demeanour of the US establishment towards us pre-&-post the strikes is evident enough I'd say (this point is more about the 'backing' to pack & not about importance of message-broadcast).

6. public! yes, the present dispensation's head has had always held the view that the public needs to know something about what the Forces do in retaliation to jihadi attacks, and unless its absolutely necessary, they should be apprised about it, atleast about what action was taken. this was more than evident (or rather, the effects of hiding something from an aggrieved public increasingly seething in rage) from the thread that we have here on the Uri attacks.

so all-in-all, i'd say that this was coming, this was highly deserved, this needs to be followed up, and a traditionally sheepish India should try its hand now with proactive aggressive posturing.
 
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In case of war no one would support us and on the contrary western power will even aid Pakistan
On what premise have you based this. We did a surgical strike. None of them complained. Democracy, market size, economy speaks for itself doesn't it. It will only get better.If Israel had western weapons, the arabs had soviet weapons access. No american soldier fought for Israel either.Remember Yom Kippur war. They turned the tide. To make a bangladesh out of pakistan will take time. But will happen eventually. That should be our attitude and not this fear that pakis are gonna nuke us, so we should refrain from doing anything.

You know, how many times Ghaznavi attacked India. 17 times. Sadly, pakistan won't get that opportunity.
It's a thousand year war. Prepare for the same. Slowly but eventually, status quo will be changed.
 

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Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar to visit Uri Brigade tomorrow

This would be his first visit post Uri attack and surgical strike in the area. Army Chief General Dalbir Singh will also accompany Parrikar.

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar to visit Uri Brigade tomorrow. This would be his first visit post Uri attack and surgical strike in the area. Army Chief General Dalbir Singh will also accompany Parrikar.

Amid heavy ceasefire violations by Pakistan, Parrikar to visit LoC posts and take stalk of border situation. He will also review preparations with Senior Army commanders.

On the eve of Diwali Four Pak posts destroyed in massive fire assault in Keran Sector by Indian Army. Indian Army now using all heavy arms like mortar, rocket launcher, automatic grande launcher to retaliate continues Pak firing.

Defence Minister also to unveil statue of India's first PVC Maj Somnath Sharma in Srinagar on Thursday.



http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/manohar-parrikar-uri-brigade/1/800211.html
 

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How did this thread feature in the facebook post of the forum? Are the admins sleeping or what?
 

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the ACTION of doing the surgical strike was ABSOLUTELY correct and i believe 99.9% of indian people , except for a few arundhati roys will agree with the action

what i might have questioned is the broadcasting of the fact and even so it could have been done at a later date .......

but then again something had to be said ...... it was quite well done overall but i think a more stern tone was more applicable

still basically well done to goi !

IF WE REALLY MEANT BUSINESS , ...we should have taken territory .....it is the only action they will understand ......sooner or later that is what we have to do , otherwise i can still understand that the claim on GBaltistan is more of a warning stick and a preference for a buffer area, and it is a claim to be taken some day , tomorrow

we should do as israel does , every time there is a war or border action they take something , to let the enemy know , you start some nonsense, you lose something,valuable, ususally it is territory eg golan , west bank , small bits of gaza strip etc etc you pay for it in real expensive terms and not just a small slap on the hand as we indians seem to be doing

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we should do as israel does , every time there is a war or border action they take something
That would be nice but we need to weed left wing out of country if not at least marginalize them in Politics, Army, bureaucracy, Judiciary and Educational Institutes. I would not be surprised if they end up attacking/blocking Army Convoys etc. Left Wing secularists needs to be out of fashion.
 

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hey paki...surgical strike didnt happen according to you...then why post such an artickle
the ACTION of doing the surgical strike was ABSOLUTELY correct and i believe 99.9% of indian people , except for a few arundhati roys will agree with the action

what i might have questioned is the broadcasting of the fact and even so it could have been done at a later date .......
As many has already said..there is no need for it.
The world has already acknowledged it and is standing by India to isolate pakistan...
So we have achieved it without releasing a single bit of our mission proof.
That shows HOW MUCH WORLD trusts India and mistrusts pakis :D
India made the point..thats how nations should be able to make itself clear.

Now...The much of the punch of the proof will be on pakis....pakis are pathological liars and they will never accept it anyway..so thats futile :









IF WE REALLY MEANT BUSINESS , ...we should have taken territory .....it is the only action they will understand ......sooner or later that is what we have to do , otherwise i can still understand that the claim on GBaltistan is more of a warning stick and a preference for a buffer area, and it is a claim to be taken some day , tomorrow


we should do as israel does , every time there is a war or border action they take something , to let the enemy know , you start some nonsense, you lose something,valuable, ususally it is territory eg golan , west bank , small bits of gaza strip etc etc you pay for it in real expensive terms and not just a small slap on the hand as we indians seem to be doing
Wait for it..May be the IA strategically eliminating paki assets inside poK by fireassult means a larger plan at play..
India has already made a point that Indian army is like Israeli army....so far India has been walking the talk... ;)

:popcorn:
 

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India has already made a point that Indian army is like Israeli army
Totally agree , more so when P.M himself asserted this in a political rally, so it must have some purpose behind it.
 

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The pig who posted this article just wants to see you fight, please ignore. Surgical strikes were excellent, they exposed the Pakis for the weak blood sucking mosquitos that they are. Post surgical strike chest beating was great, it's like rubbing your dog's nose in pee so that he doesn't pee indoors again.
 
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