Demystification of the Islamic Rule in India

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Even if base our premise that there was hindu genocide under Muslim armies weren't the hindus too were culpable of it coz in most cases muslim armies were commandered by the hindu generals..like during akbar it was mansingh and even during aurangzeb had major rajput commanders in his armies. 70% of nobility under muslim kings were hindus.So didnt this mean that the hindu nobility sold off the hindus /tempels etc just to keep their position...then why blame muslims....
 

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No, but then studying about British Raj, atrocities during partition, communal riots, etc., won't either. When there are threads dissecting what happened in 1984, 2002, 1971, 1946-49, dissecting Muslim rule in India is of the same academic interest, even if it doesn't serve a community purpose.
If we Discuss 1971, its of Strategic importance, If we Discuss the Partition and the Genocide therein, its also something which happened recently, stuff which our elders still remember. Riots and all too happened recently and the memory of it is fresh and to TOP IT, it happened in MODERN TIMES! Not the DARK AGES when no Human Rights or other inalienable rights were recognised by anyone let alone Kings! God Speed
 

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Below is the link to the history of india consisting of original accounts by Arab/perssian scholar who visited india with the various invading armies.....These original accounts were tranlated by Sir H.M. Elliot.

The History of India​
 

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Even if base our premise that there was hindu genocide under Muslim armies weren't the hindus too were culpable of it coz in most cases muslim armies were commandered by the hindu generals..like during akbar it was mansingh and even during aurangzeb had major rajput commanders in his armies. 70% of nobility under muslim kings were hindus.So didnt this mean that the hindu nobility sold off the hindus /tempels etc just to keep their position...then why blame muslims....
The fact that Mughals had Hindu commanders itself proves that they didnt Kill the enemies in the Name of Religion! They did it out to increase their Power and the Generals didnt see it as a Muslim ordering them to Kill Hindus!
 

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And the writer was in the inner coitere of the Rulers when they joined a brainstorming session and decided, we will destroy their temples and then destroy Hinduism! Right?

In all honesty, If the Muslim Invaders wanted to destroy Hinduism they could have done it by running amok all over India and not just Come and loot temples and take off the gold just when their coffers were empty.
if you must know ,ore than 20million hindus have died under muslim rule
If the Mughals, including Auranghazeb wanted Hinduism uprooted, they would have started a Holocaust, much more heinous than Hitlers and killed of the Hindus! They didnt, OR Did they???

The whole thing that India is still a Hindu Majority country, proves that the Muslim rulers assimilated in, and didnt kill of all the Hindus living in their conquered land!!
if you must know , more than 20 million hindus have died under muslim rule more than the holucust of hitler or any genocide
 

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I Pray, May I know, Will this studying of the Muslim Invasion and Cruelty Angle, enlighten the Millions Starving and will make them Escape Starvation? Will It Enlighten our Millions and make them Literate?? Will It Increase our Economic Standing? Will it add a Single Rupee to our Coffers? Will it???

If you want to stereotype Violence and Killing with Islam, Go ahead and you dont have to ask others to do the same with Hinduism by creating threads of the Cruelty of Hindu Kings, because, other than a handful of you, no one else is interested in such responses, degrading an entiere Religion for the wrongdoings of a few! God Speed
for a few kings , i guess only akhbar was the only good king , can you tell any muslim king , so its is not few kings but allmost all of them
 

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AJ do you know that hindu kings were also responsible for the temple destruction.did hindus ever discussed this?????
nothing compared to what muslim rulers did , statistically hindus have destroyed only in conquest and during battles , plus hindu religion is way older than Islam
 

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if you must know , more than 20 million hindus have died under muslim rule more than the holucust of hitler or any genocide
The Holocaust figures are compiled and verified. While the 20 Million figure has no such leverage to stand on its own. Why dont you keep your figures alongside some proof? Why did the Mughals and Other muslims leave off the other Hindus? Why didnt they Cleanse India if they really wanted to rid India of Hinduism? Why Keep even one Temple up? Why not destroy them all? The Mughals ruled for Hundreds of Years, and you say only Akbar was good, so his reign hindus were safe, Still his successors still left Temples standing and Hindus alive? WHY?
 

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Boy history is not studied with passioned up heart that some rulers were good or some were bad.....Even if you were talking about the NCERT books on history that mostly accused of whitewashing the truth then read same books again...even those books dont say that mahmood gazhani was good or bad or for that the case of aurangzeb or for that the case of Asoka who was more equivalent to aurangzeb before conversion to buddism.
but then it does not say either that a lot of destruction took place under muslim rule
 

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do we harp if hindu kings commiting genocides?????
any such incident happened under hindu rule ? about Ashoka ,atleast he realised his mistake and did good afterwards , did any muslim ruler did something like Ashok?
 

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nothing compared to what muslim rulers did , statistically hindus have destroyed only in conquest and during battles , plus hindu religion is way older than Islam
Statastically? Who complied these Statastics? Dont temme there were stastical agencies back then! They didnt even have Human rights!!!! Why dont you do some real reading and not just Copy Pasting! You have much to learn and not just from dumb articles propagating hate!

I still say, Temples were looted and such stuff done, but they were done for the Gold and then embarrassment the rulers, the Loot and the Expansion of power! There was no HOLOCAUST!
 
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any such incident happened under hindu rule ? about Ashoka ,atleast he realised his mistake and did good afterwards , did any muslim ruler did something like Ashok?
So if Auranghazeb killed of your whole family and then Repented and became a Buddhist, you would forgive him for the Grief he caused? Dude, Philiosophically what Ashoka did was BIG! But looking it from people pov, its nothing for the Death and Destruction.
 

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if you must know , more than 20 million hindus have died under muslim rule more than the holucust of hitler or any genocide
nothing compared to what muslim rulers did , statistically hindus have destroyed only in conquest and during battles , plus hindu religion is way older than Islam
So what to do with this Death Statistics? Calculate which religion has lost most lives & then Indian Constitution declares that religion Superior? And then to follow India be declared as that religion-oriented country? In this case it might make India Hindu Country.

People are killed everywhere, everytime when there are conflicts in Power Gaining games. Evil-doers are irrespective of their religion are evils. Guilt-free pass should not be awarded to anyone who conducts killing for conquest or anything.
 

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The Holocaust figures are compiled and verified. While the 20 Million figure has no such leverage to stand on its own. Why dont you keep your figures alongside some proof? Why did the Mughals and Other muslims leave off the other Hindus? Why didnt they Cleanse India if they really wanted to rid India of Hinduism? Why Keep even one Temple up? Why not destroy them all? The Mughals ruled for Hundreds of Years, and you say only Akbar was good, so his reign hindus were safe, Still his successors still left Temples standing and Hindus alive? WHY?
simple reason hindu religion is for 3thousand years now , kinda hard to wipe it out in 800 years of atrocities ,plus in any case we are so many in number and so are our temples
 

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if you must know , more than 20 million hindus have died under muslim rule more than the holucust of hitler or any genocide
more than 20 million would have died of natural causes in 7-8 centuries of muslim rules.the problem is here you are not evenly distributing the figures...Let me give one more figure of 15 million bengalis died with in 4-5years during artificially caused the great bengalis famine in late 17th century rule of east india company and again 4-5 million bengalis died during 1942-43 bengal famine.Are you sure that those all died were only hindus??When nadirshah pillaged delhi it wasn't that he only killed hindus by asking them.he pillaged whole mughal aristocracy in delhi...Try reading about khooni dawwaza and nadirshah's killings of mughal aristocracy ...
 

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So if Auranghazeb killed of your whole family and then Repented and became a Buddhist, you would forgive him for the Grief he caused? Dude, Philiosophically what Ashoka did was BIG! But looking it from people pov, its nothing for the Death and Destruction.
so still all the muslim rulers are evil , atleast Ashok is 5% better
 

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any such incident happened under hindu rule ? about Ashoka ,atleast he realised his mistake and did good afterwards , did any muslim ruler did something like Ashok?
What's your point? India should be brought under Hindu rule? Are you trying to say that Hindu rule assures no killing ?
 

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Statastically? Who complied these Statastics? Dont temme there were stastical agencies back then! They didnt even have Human rights!!!! Why dont you do some real reading and not just Copy Pasting! You have much to learn and not just from dumb articles propagating hate!

I still say, Temples were looted and such stuff done, but they were done for the Gold and then embarrassment the rulers, the Loot and the Expansion of power! There was no HOLOCAUST!
there was holaust in 1971 ( do not kid yourself , please read the article once again ) and i did not copy , me and some of my friends with the help of historian have complied the article
i suggest read once again

Name Of The Book: Futuhu'l-Buldan

Name Of The Historian: Ahmed bin Yahya bin Jabir

About The Author: This author is also known as al- Biladhuri. He lived at the court of Khalifa Al- Mutawakkal (AD 847-861) and died in AD 893. His history is one of the major Arab chronicles.

"...The town was thus taken by assault, and the carnage endured for three days. The governor of the town, appointed by Dahir, fled and the priests of the temple were massacred. Muhammad marked a place for the Musalmans to dwell in, built a mosque, and left 4,000 Musalmans to garrison the place..."
 

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any such incident happened under hindu rule ? about Ashoka ,atleast he realised his mistake and did good afterwards , did any muslim ruler did something like Ashok?
This means you read history selectively......read the frontline article i ve posted ....it had happened under chalukayas..under cholas etc....but then you only know about asoka and most muslim kings....did you study about dara sikoh???
 

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What's your point? India should be brought under Hindu rule? Are you trying to say that Hindu rule assures no killing ?
no i did not imply anything ,i say again my intention is again to let people know the other evil side of muslim rule in India
 
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