Cultural Marxism in India - Hindus always Wrong, Minorities always Right

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Thank you @Roshan for the post...
Lets see if we can Discuss/Find counter narratives for this...
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Why do liberals are aghast at #CAA? Why are they so upset about helping Hindu refugees from Bangladesh/ Pakistan when they supported Rohingya refugees of Myanmar. I will describe their worldview, termed “Cultural Marxism”, in this #thread.

Marxism is about class struggle and at the end the proletariat (poor) will take over the administration to found a “just” state. The classes are defined by nothing but wealth/property.

A good-natured businessman is necessarily bad while a bad-natured worker is necessarily good because the businessman belongs to the wrong class! However, this is a theory whose empirical verification is possible.

After Alexandre Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s “One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” and “The Gulag Archipelago”, people in Europe saw the USSR (the state of the proletariat) no “just ” state. That much cruelty from the state was repulsive.

The European leftist intellectuals were facing a problem of survival regarding their message. This is the moment, Jacques Derrida and others jumped on to the Cultural Marxist wagon.

@Saumya_stoic
explains here the process

For Cultural Marxists, not wealth alone but culture too determines oppression. If someone is identity wise a majority and another person a minority, in any conflict between them, the former must be guilty like the above-mentioned businessman.

Like Marxism, this cultural Marxism has also the goal to found a “just” world. Their instrument (unlike the communists) is no revolution but activism against the majority identity and support for the minority identity. This theory defined their universe.

In India, the "Hindu" identity is considered to be the majority identity by them. Therefore, the left-liberals must be against Hindus, no matter what (from their Theory). Any conflict between Hindus and some other religions, the guilty must be Hindus.

Economists Mitra and Ray wrote a paper (http://econ.nyu.edu/user/debraj/Papers/hm.pdf…) that acknowledges that mostly Muslims are the aggressors in riots in India, but contends that for the minority identity, this violence by Muslims is nothing but self-defense.

The idea that India must be broken (“Bharat tere tukde honge” stuff, read Breaking India by
@RajivMessage
) again follows from the Theory that the majority (Hindus) will be divided and weakened from a breaking India project.

Understandably, Hindu refugees (victims of persecution) must get no sympathy, the Theory dictates, and Rohingyas must get all as they belong to minority identity. Question is why left-liberals are not bothered about Pakistan’s minority within the scope of their theory?

This is where the Cultural Marxism differs from Communism. While communism accepts liberation of humanity as one project, Cultural Marxists are “supposed” to work only in their society without caring about the liberation of global humanity as a unified project.

Problems with this theory. a. This theory is unfalsifiable. (Its empirical verification is never possible) b. It is shallow (Different identities come with different human values). c. It is anti-science (“all men are equal” like assumptions).

Someone needs an authority to understand Cultural Marxism. Here is
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As far as I can see in the absence of any objectively 'fair' media perception moulding the only thing we need to and can do is try to tilt the scales in our favor by taking the fight to them in their own stomping ground. I.e the universities and media with those who have a bent towards the nationalistic and not the globalist or Marxist sort who are remote controlled from abroad. So more of gurukuls and bhu type institutions. That for me starts at the grassroots level where we still teach a romila thapar and irfan habib approved social science curriculum. It becomes much more apparent to me when I see vernacular students grow up into much less of a colonized breed compared to those who study in english medium schools. Without breaking that foundation that makes an unholy nexus of casteists, communists, liberals, evangelists and jehadists possible we cannot hope to be anything other than defensive. China and russia are both good examples of this but of course both did not have to suffer colonial hangovers.
 

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Dhindus are so shameless,for them minority=muslims only

How can 15% terrorist cult is minority not 2% each Xtians ,Sikhs and <1 %Buddhists,Jews,Parsis &etc?

Nobody talk about these religions as they are not exist in India. :lol:

PS:Show some guts, write 'Muslims' instead sophisticated 'Minority',then we talk about rest.
Muslims can't do anything.

Correct term is White.
Say that Secularism/Liberalism is White Supremacy.
We are looking to White People for political guidance & spiritual approval.
 

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They stole 1/3 of our land and converted 1/3 of our people (pak+af+bd) and your are saying '' they can't do anything''?? :lol:

Fighting external enemy is important but ERADICATING internal enemy is most important.
Sirji you are missing the point of this thread... and i have created this thread precisely for this...

Of course there are many ill-wishers of the country, but the M249 SAW that keeps giving cover fire to all these groups and making you duck and preventing return fire is the concept of “cultural Marxism”. Unless this is tackled, you will never be able to take a steady shot at your objectives.
 

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^^IS it Marxist,Leninist,Leftist and what ever fuk, they all are ATHEIST ideologies mostly based on LABOR force

but using minority or majority or Hindu etc is necessary here??

IF they are supporting 'White West' means they are supporting CORPORATES .... it is again against their basic principle.

BTW West actually hates these groups more then Asians.
it does not matter what "ist" they are, they exist to distract India from reaching it's goals.
all the narratives that are in media & SM since 2014 can directly be attributed to cultural marxism, and other end of the stick is them using our own education system to make our young hate/doubt our own country.
 

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i think atleast 4 years are now wasted by nationalist crowd by misdiagnosing the problem and wasting them on fighting externalities created by cultural marxism.

Just properly explaining cultural marxism to ordinary people with examples from past 4-5 years alone would go a long way in controlling this menace.
 

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They stole 1/3 of our land and converted 1/3 of our people (pak+af+bd) and your are saying '' they can't do anything''?? :lol:

Fighting external enemy is important but ERADICATING internal enemy is most important.
Fighting requires co-ordination.

Cultural Marxism impedes it.

Vedas say With the Bow, Let us Defeat Enemies Both Near & Far.
 

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Another one of many externalities of cultural Marxism..
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This is a Sharia lovin PHD student from Bangladesh in University of California Davis, with professor who apparently studies Jihad (making it palatable) and a khalistani "activist". Atleast they (like Geelani) are honest about secularism.


 

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My understanding of commie-pisslamism is deeply based on their shared values.

That is,"using violence against the non believers as a means to an end, to achieve the goal of total dominance over the non believers"

(Here,non believers means both non believers of islam and non believers of communism)

After their failure to subdue the the entire population,(india)now they realised can't win over the entire sub continent alone,nowadays congis are too weak and stupid to ride,hence they forged new alliance to cripple bharat.


Imo,both pisslamists and commies eligible for the term "brainwashed zombies". Commonality between them is eerily similar.

One is brainwashed by green book and another one by red book(s)

Both call for (armed) violence and preaches genocide against non believers

Both cults wants "to take over the world" from the non believers.
Both cults plays victim when they are in minority in a country and ask for rule of law. But once become majority they turn the country into a dictatorship.

I could go on forever but the bottom line is,two dangerous ideologies are now starting to work in tandem to subdue the hindu minority(I mean we are a minority in global scale).
 
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My understanding of commie-pisslamism is deeply based on their shared values.

That is,"using violence against the non believers as a means to an end, to achieve the goal of total dominance over the non believers"

(Here,non believers means both non believers of islam and non believers of communism)

After their failure to subdue the the entire population,(india)now they realised can't win over the entire sub continent alone,nowadays congis are too weak and stupid to ride,hence they forged new alliance to cripple bharat.


Imo,both pisslamists and commies eligible for the term "brainwashed zombies". Commonality between them is eerily similar.

One is brainwashed by green book and another one by red book(s)

Both call for (armed) violence and preaches genocide against non believers

Both cults wants "to take over the world" from the non believers.
Both cults plays victim when they are in minority in a country and ask for rule of law. But once become majority they turn the country into a dictatorship.

I could go on forever but the bottom line is,two dangerous ideologies are now starting to work in tandem to subdue the hindu minority(I mean we are a minority in global scale).
Yes, well said..

The last sentence “we are a minority in global scale” should be one of our fundamental premise of our future arguments.

All major religions of the world have many countries as official religion, we don’t have one.
 
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Yes, well said..

The last sentence “we are a minority in global scale” should be one of our fundamental premise of our future arguments.

All major religions of the world have many countries as official religion, we don’t have one.
Over that, other two religions with over billion populations are still expanding, our religious population is stable and about to start to decline.
 

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1) It is important to realise the depths of internationalism of the Left. The Left was made to be internationalist, had explicitly rejected national boundaries, passions and thoughts in favour of an internationalist underpinning right from its inception. It is a feature of Left.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1240603619914739712.html

Thread bump.
 

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1) It is important to realise the depths of internationalism of the Left. The Left was made to be internationalist, had explicitly rejected national boundaries, passions and thoughts in favour of an internationalist underpinning right from its inception. It is a feature of Left.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1240603619914739712.html

Thread bump.
Islamists/commies have cultivated Hindus in media to mislead Hindus onto the path of secularism. The media shows Hindu protagonists as behaving in a certain subservient way. The Surf excel advert is a good example of it.


This strategy is actually something for us to emulate. All of these star kids like Sara Ali Khan wearing bikini, drinking alcohol etc are to be promoted as a template for other Muslims. Give them alternate role models.
 
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1) It is important to realise the depths of internationalism of the Left. The Left was made to be internationalist, had explicitly rejected national boundaries, passions and thoughts in favour of an internationalist underpinning right from its inception. It is a feature of Left.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1240603619914739712.html

Thread bump.
Copy the content here too, you never know when commies will take over threadreader app.
 

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[mention]Levina [/mention] cultural Marxism is an underlying core philosophy of all jaichands.

Maybe you can look at throwing a light on this angle in your writings too.
 

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1) It is important to realise the depths of internationalism of the Left. The Left was made to be internationalist, had explicitly rejected national boundaries, passions and thoughts in favour of an internationalist underpinning right from its inception. It is a feature of Left.

2) Two points lay in favour of Leftist internationalism. From the earliest days, Left was conceived as an anti-war [war between nations] concept. The Left did not disdain war in its entirety. It just rejected the national concepts, favouring instead a worldwide class struggle.

3) However, the end result was that the Left attracted a large number of peaceniks, who genuinely abhorred war between nations and deplored the waste of it. These were the useful idiots of the Left. For the Left, war was not bad; only targets chosen in war between nations bad.

4) While the peaceniks in the Left marched during WW1 [with candles!] abhorring the uselessness of war, the real Left did not deplore the war. People like Lenin, Munzenberg, etc, were actually delighted with the war starting, and they were utilising it for Leftist benefit.

5) `Let the nations put guns into the hands of the proletariat, the bullets are for the generals' - was the refrain of the real Left. That millions of the proletariat would be killed in fighting their own generals did not bother them at all. They accepted it as necessary.

6) While the peaceniks were pushing for dodging draft, and objecting to WW1 on ethical/principled bases, the Left's only concern was how to get weapons and shoot the generals. They hoped for big casualties on all sides so that the morale would break and soldiers mutiny.

7) But this very anti-nationalist feeling in the real Left meant that they were a group of anti-nationals drawn from every country in Europe and were truly `international anti-nationals'. In practice, this meant two vital things a) they were drawn from every country in Europe.

8) b) since they were anti-national to every country, they collected subsidies from all countries to sabotage the enemy. Thus Lenin was subsidised and transported by the German foreign office with supplies to Finland to start a revolution in Russia, and sign a `defeatist peace.'

9) While Lenin was hobnobbing with the Germans, Liebknecht, Munzenberg and Luxembourg were offered subsidies by UK to break German morale. Sitting in neutral Switzerland/Scandinavia, they controlled a lot of resources, people and propaganda machinery across all of Europe.

10) The end result was that, thanks to the subsidies offered to the Left by the various belligerent countries, the Left was the only one which profited from the war hugely. All belligerent countries saw them as allies against the `enemy', when the Left was enemy of everyone.
11) This also meant a truly `international' Left as can be gauged by the following incident. When Munzenberg was arrested in Switzerland [he kicked up such a ruckus that even neutral Switzerland acted against him], there were demonstrations against it in France, Austria, etc.
12) Further, in their own interest, the Leftists cooperated with each other. They were all traitors to their own countries, and consequently, they developed a solidarity of treason. Further, it was safe to demonstrate against Russia in Germany, in France against Germany, etc.
13) What does all this mean for today? It is important to realise the depth of the Left's internationalism, how it comes about, what is the basis of this, and most importantly, what can be done about this. To combat an enemy, one must understand their strengths and weaknesses.
14) The strengths of the Left are the following.
a) It is truly international, has been so from the earliest days, is a very powerful ideological weapon aimed at nations and civilisations from its earliest days. It is a brotherhood of treason, where traitors' interests converge.
15) b) The resources of the Left are colossal. For over a century, they have utilised every venture, every nation, every business to find funding for their organisation. They have amassed huge resources, and since every nation has enemies, will always find some resources.
16) c) Since the Left is truly an international international, it cannot be combated in any one country. If it is destroyed in one country [this is a very optimistic scenario], they will just flee to another and begin the same destructive work from across the borders.
17) In fact, the above was the experience of the European nations in WW1 and just before. Traitors would just flee to Switzerland, Scandinavia, etc and continue their work from there. Russia, Germany, etc did expend huge resources to combat the Left nationally. They failed.
18) The Left will always align with any anti-national element, no matter how foul. For them, these are useful in bringing down the nation states, and are thus, allies. This, then, is the basis for the Left's love for Islamists. The Islamists are destructive and thus, allies.
19) What, then, can be done to combat the Left? Multiple things.
a) Patriotism, nationalism, and cultural strength are the anathema of the Left. As long as a people is patriotic and culturally strong, they will not destroy their societies and Leftists can be contained.
20) Leftists are international, so anyone who tries to fight the Leftists must also evolve a significant amount of international cooperation. This involves alliances between countries about how to contain the destructive Left. This would weaken the power of the Left.
21) Democracies are uniquely vulnerable to the Left, since they are, by definition, free societies. The Left does not respect it-they just see it as a weakness to be exploited, just as the Islamists do. So, Leftist organisations must be identified and shunned, across nations.
22) Useful idiots are the heart of the Left. These useful idiots give intellectual, social and political [usually because they are genuinely attached to a cause] cover to the real traitors. This is why the Left tries so hard to brainwash people. Deny this by educating people.
23) The habit of funding Leftist organisations to promote mischief in other countries must be shunned. There must be positive and negative inducements for countries/organisations over these treacherous organisations. Those countries/orgs which fund Left must be penalised/shamed.
24) All countries have genuine problems. This is a fact of life. Marginalised sections in all nations will be vulnerable. Their problems must be addressed within the ambit of the nation. Organisations must be responsible nationally. International orgs must be shunned.
25) Educate people across the board how funding the Left is self-destructive. The bulk of the money for Left comes from non-Left, because Left pitches their causes attractively. Point out that what the Left is doing to other countries will be done at home too by their comrades.
26) Civilisational responses and alliances are necessary to weaken the Left. The Islamist-Leftist alliance is here to stay. They are made for each other, since they both desire the destruction of the society. We need to coordinate with other civilisations to contain the Left.
27) Finally, it must be realised that the war with the Leftists cannot be completely won. Leftism is an inherent problem in mankind. Treason, sadism, destructive behaviour, etc, are not going to be eradicated-they are part of human nature. But they can be contained, controlled.

Islamists/commies have cultivated Hindus in media to mislead Hindus onto the path of secularism. The media shows Hindu protagonists as behaving in a certain subservient way. The Surf excel advert is a good example of it.


This strategy is actually something for us to emulate. All of these star kids like Sara Ali Khan wearing bikini, drinking alcohol etc are to be promoted as a template for other Muslims. Give them alternate role models.



yep but where hindu women who do this are supposed to be 'empowered' when sara ali khan or that other bimbo who got married in bigg boss who is also her namesake does it, the islamists from both our own backyard and in our biraadari attack like a pack of wild dogs. never mind that these women and people in general - all the khans - are only muslims in name and don't even follow the religion at all yet it gives our abduls here pride to associate with them.
in sara's case and even in salman's case it seems that they have a strong influence of their mother on their lives.
 

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