Crisis in Tibet - Opression and Human rights violations by China

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This is continuing unabated and the Chinese cannot seem to control this.
Let's get straight: some self-immolation will make China looks bad, but that is all it can do.

If indeed the Dalai Lama is behind all this, one has to admit that he has great influence in Tibet and he has more influence than the Chinese who have given all the sops including oodles of cash to buy up the Tibetans!
Of course, he as "a living god" always has his enomous influence among tibetens everywhere. But the bad thing is the cash from CCP is eroding his influence.
And worst of worse, he is dying.
 

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Let's get straight: some self-immolation will make China looks bad, but that is all it can do.



Of course, he as "a living god" always has his enomous influence among tibetens everywhere. But the bad thing is the cash from CCP is eroding his influence.
And worst of worse, he is dying.
Tibetians enjoy a lot of support in Britain. Last weekend I even signed a petition is favour of tibet which is going to the House of Commons.
 

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Tibetians enjoy a lot of support in Britain. Last weekend I even signed a petition is favour of tibet which is going to the House of Commons.
nothing is gonna change the fact tibet is part of china now. unless there is a civil war in china, tibet will never able to split from china. the more tibetan protest/riot, the tighter the PRC grip on tibet. it was always a carrot and stick policy.
 

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Let's get straight: some self-immolation will make China looks bad, but that is all it can do.



Of course, he as "a living god" always has his enomous influence among tibetens everywhere. But the bad thing is the cash from CCP is eroding his influence.
And worst of worse, he is dying.
Of course it is making China look bad and incompetent when the general impression is given that it is efficiently addressing issues.

China's money has been spurned. The monks in that Sichuan monastery refused to accept the bribe!
 

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nothing is gonna change the fact tibet is part of china now. unless there is a civil war in china, tibet will never able to split from china. the more tibetan protest/riot, the tighter the PRC grip on tibet. it was always a carrot and stick policy.
Civil War is not too far.

Wen has already warned that the situation in China is going in such a way that there will be another Cultural Revolution!
 

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Civil War is not too far.

Wen has already warned that the situation in China is going in such a way that there will be another Cultural Revolution!
i doubt it. wen was warn bo xili. chinese dont want another cultural revolution, and it won't see anything like arab spring anytime soon.
 

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Truth about Tibet is slowly coming to light

By Gao Lei (Global Times)
08:08, March 12, 2012

Some 2,000 pro-Dalai Lama Tibetans marched in New York Saturday to mark their so-called "uprising against Chinese rule" in 1959. In March that year, millions of serfs were liberated from the harsh rule of the Dalai Lama after his failed military attempt to restore the farmer slave regime in Tibet.

With the Tibetan question emerging in recent decades, as a politically motivated international media has increasingly scrutinized this holy land, the original facts have been twisted to serve the purpose of the Dalai group and his Western supporters.

Tibet, which was struggling in severe poverty 53 years ago, has been painted by the Dalai and his supporters as a Shangri-La with seemingly no secular troubles. This heavenly world was only interrupted when the CPC stepped in in the 1950s, according to their theory.

If this heaven ever existed, it only did so for the Dalai who enjoyed a life of luxury at the expense of millions of serfs stripped of basic freedom. After his attempt to restore theocratic rule failed, Dalai went into exile and chose a road smearing the CPC's governance in Tibet.

Thanks to the diligent work of historians and scholars, the truth about Tibet has gradually resurfaced. According to their research, as well as eyewitness accounts of people who lived in the region 53 years ago, Tibet, contrary to many foreign people's wishful thinking, was practically a living hell back then. Serfs, accounting for around 95 percent of the total population in Tibet at that time, were forced to shed sweat and blood for the sumptuous lives enjoyed by powerful lords like the Dalai Lama.

After 53 years, Tibet has undergone tremendous changes. If the Dalai Lama truly cares about local Tibetans, he should feel happy for them, as they are living a much better life than they did under his rule, and religious freedom is being preserved as much as possible.

But the Dalai, reluctant to see his influence being eclipsed day by day, is resorting to more extreme approaches to attract attention and manipulate the media focus by encouraging the self-immolation of a few monks despite the fact that violence is forbidden by Tibetan Buddhism.

Monks and ordinary people are being used for his political purposes; it was the case 53 years ago and remains so today, though it may still take a long time for Dalai sympathizers to recognize what's truly happening in Tibet.


Truth about Tibet is slowly coming to light - People's Daily Online
 
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Fake chicom propaganda doesn't deserve the bandwidth in DFI.
 

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For a party as experienced as CCP in propaganda, thanks to its long history, it sucks big time in doing it. They need to get a few heads still not stuck in history, if they want outsiders to have more than a glance at the shit that they are trying to sell.
 

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the truth is very simple...

1 tibet is being a part of prc and no1s gonna change this.... if not so tell me how exactly on earth?

2 the so called indian privileges over tibet theory is the most rediculous theory in human history so no buffer zoom here no matter how my indian friends gonna use the dalai lama or SFF.....

3 no need say more....cpc propaganda guys pls just cut the crap and move on waking up the chinese who dont even think india annexing zangnan is of serious concern....
 

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the truth is very simple...

1 tibet is being a part of prc and no1s gonna change this.... if not so tell me how exactly on earth?

2 the so called indian privileges over tibet theory is the most rediculous theory in human history so no buffer zoom here no matter how my indian friends gonna use the dalai lama or SFF.....

3 no need say more....cpc propaganda guys pls just cut the crap and move on waking up the chinese who dont even think india annexing zangnan is of serious concern....
i tell you what
1 Tibet is pain in ass for prc and nothing going to change this...

2 Then why do you care if India has no leverage on the issue ? and why cry every time when lama goes to any function in INDIA ?

3 prc is Propaganda Republic Of China you cant live with out it turn on cctv one side and any other independent tv on other side you will either cry or fall of the chair laughing
 

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the truth is very simple...

1 tibet is being a part of prc and no1s gonna change this.... .

Britain used to say that about India too. There are some deluded Brits who think likewise even now. Bitter pill to swallow isn't it?
 

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i doubt it. wen was warn bo xili. chinese dont want another cultural revolution, and it won't see anything like arab spring anytime soon.
Ever heard of black swan events? uncultured revolution in china may be a black swan event for you, but for the rest of the world its perhaps an inevitable eventuality.
 

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In case you havnt noticed: Britain and India is a world apart and India is much bigger than Britain, in terms of land, population and just about everything.

Now look up the map. Where is Tibet and China proper?

Now go take your pills.
 

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Fake chicom propaganda doesn't deserve the bandwidth in DFI.

You are right, The article is plain wrong. The Tibet was known as heaven on earth before the invasion,.

There was never serfs in Tibet. The Dalai lamahs was just ordinary people enjoyed an ordinary life , just like others.

It was basically an egalitarian society before the commies showed up.

/Sarcasm ends.
 

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In case you havnt noticed: Britain and India is a world apart and India is much bigger than Britain, in terms of land, population and just about everything.

Now look up the map. Where is Tibet and China proper?

Now go take your pills.
Poor retort.

The point I was making is you should not be under illusion that the status quo does stays the same for long. Only thing that is constant is change. Yes CHANGE. Change is the thing you CCP guys are shit scared of, aren't you?

Things change and also circumstances. For example, have you thought about a scenario when oil is in short supply, can you still maintain your military presence in Tibet? Your 1 child policy MAY lead to reduction in manpower to support the empire, you haven't considered this in your hegemonistic ambitions. Have you?

Have you also not given a thought that Tibetans can pick up arms and start a bloody guerrilla warfare. India, USA, France, Japan, Indonesia, Australia, Russia will all be happy to give a tacit underhand support to this if China starts pushing its weight which interferes with their policies. A long bloody guerrilla war can go on for years and it takes too many resources. Do not say it wont happen.

I think you are too childish to understand this. Perhaps you need a nappy change.
 

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the truth is very simple...

1 tibet is being a part of prc and no1s gonna change this.... if not so tell me how exactly on earth?
Well you amy be right but Tibetans aren't fond of your gleaming buildings and roads at the expense of their culture and belief. That's what you don't get.

2 the so called indian privileges over tibet theory is the most rediculous theory in human history so no buffer zoom here no matter how my indian friends gonna use the dalai lama or SFF.....
We won't have been too bothered if you had not started taking our territory post Tibetan invasion. Now we have a reason to only because you started this game.

3 no need say more....cpc propaganda guys pls just cut the crap and move on waking up the chinese who dont even think india annexing zangnan is of serious concern....
What is Zannan?
 

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