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Tbh I consider cricket at the Lower end of the athletic spectrum. This sports needs endurance more than anything vs football, hockey, basketball, track and field that require explosive strength and speed.
Could be blamed on the veg diet we eat which favors herbivore low test sport like Cricket
 

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Actually I'm happy with the result today.

a. First and foremost, Don't want to entertain sports with a terrorist nation who kills our jawans with proxy. Zero tolerance for beggers.

b. Didn't give a chance to pakshithan to do Jihad on field in the name of cricket. Thank You Rahul (KL)

c. No more Aman ki tamasha on live in particular between Kohli & Paki Mullahs for a long time to come.

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Cannot rely on bumrah for everything. But india historically has not produced great bowlers. Only in the last 5-10 years, we are getting to see some quality bowling. When you are playing just 120 balls, ability to bowl well becomes supreme. Plus our players are no longer interested in winning ICC tournaments. That time has passed.
Listening to Wasim & Waqar on their YT they said India had a couple of 150k+ bowlers in Umran Malik & Kuldeep Sen but their mindset is safe from what they noticed from Indian ex players & not trusting genuine pacers unlike us who only like to play genuine fast bowlers & throwing them in the deep end no matter how young they are.
Perhaps Indian administrators in cricket board are not aware with modern cricket with every team having one express pacer.

That bigot Akhtar on Zee news said the same on Zee news that Indians don't have a express fast bowler... Or they don't play one.
 

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Listening to Wasim & Waqar on their YT they said India had a couple of 150k+ bowlers in Umran Malik & Kuldeep Sen but their mindset is safe from what they noticed from Indian ex players & not trusting genuine pacers unlike us who only like to play genuine fast bowlers & throwing them in the deep end no matter how young they are.
Perhaps Indian administrators in cricket board are not aware with modern cricket with every team having one express pacer.

That bigot Akhtar on Zee news said the same on Zee news that Indians don't have a express fast bowler... Or they don't play one.

Bruh. If that case, then Glenn Mcgarth, Anderson, Broad, Ambrose will be complete failures. Express pace is always some Jumla thrown by Pakistan for decades. All this express pace were destroyed left right center by Sachin, Sehwag etc.

Great bowlers will understand the condition much faster and bowl according to it. Eg. Anderson will pitch the ball at the same area for entire day, Mcgrath will do the same, he is insanely accurate.


In recent times Indian bowling unit failed to grasp these things, they take multiple sessions to get back to correct lengths and line and when they come the match is already lost.

Length and Line is important. Express pace may bring surprise element only if it is a Bouncer where Batsman pushed to play it an uncomfortable position.

We lost because we decided to go with conservative approach by safeguarding the wicket in first 6 overs.
England Team will easily get these 160 scores due to their depth in batting.
 

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Bruh. If that case, then Glenn Mcgarth, Anderson, Broad, Ambrose will be complete failures. Express pace is always some Jumla thrown by Pakistan for decades. All this express pace were destroyed left right center by Sachin, Sehwag etc.

Great bowlers will understand the condition much faster and bowl according to it. Eg. Anderson will pitch the ball at the same area for entire day, Mcgrath will do the same, he is insanely accurate.


In recent times Indian bowling unit failed to grasp these things, they take multiple sessions to get back to correct lengths and line and when they come the match is already lost.

Length and Line is important. Express pace may bring surprise element only if it is a Bouncer where Batsman pushed to play it an uncomfortable position.

We lost because we decided to go with conservative approach by safeguarding the wicket in first 6 overs.
England Team will easily get these 160 scores due to their depth in batting.
In Australia u need pace... Line length is subjective & once a express bowler achieves that he becomes unstoppable. England had Mark Wood tearing it up at 150k most often in tournament.. We were lucky to not face him.
Australians back genuine quicks they talk about pace only... And that is greatest sporting nation on the planet. Brett Lee said Indians are morons to not use Umran Malik in Australia.
Pakistan had Haris Rauf another 150k bowler.. And mostly 140k+ quicks.
India also has that but we are left behind with safety + approach. A country of a billion people should do better with so many resources & a richest cricket board.
Kuldeep Sen & Umran Malik are in next NZ series... Tells us all u need to know about poor planning.
Pakistanis laugh on us regularly saying Indians can't produce pace bowlers... While we can but thanks to inept sports system we aren't giving enough chances.
Even Associates had quicker bowlers than us....
Swamp dwellers Bangladeshis too. And Lankans as well.

And England would chase 190 as well with this telly tubby attack we had.. So approach doesn't matter in this. They had way too many overs & big hitters left.
 

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Bruh. If that case, then Glenn Mcgarth, Anderson, Broad, Ambrose will be complete failures. Express pace is always some Jumla thrown by Pakistan for decades. All this express pace were destroyed left right center by Sachin, Sehwag etc.

Great bowlers will understand the condition much faster and bowl according to it. Eg. Anderson will pitch the ball at the same area for entire day, Mcgrath will do the same, he is insanely accurate.


In recent times Indian bowling unit failed to grasp these things, they take multiple sessions to get back to correct lengths and line and when they come the match is already lost.

Length and Line is important. Express pace may bring surprise element only if it is a Bouncer where Batsman pushed to play it an uncomfortable position.

We lost because we decided to go with conservative approach by safeguarding the wicket in first 6 overs.
England Team will easily get these 160 scores due to their depth in batting.
All the examples you quoted had a high point of release of the ball. That's a huge advantage in itself because of the bounce you can generate even with lower speed. Moreover, speed in cricket is measured at the point of release of the ball, ball released from a higher height will have lesser % drop in speed while traversing so effective speed of the bowlers you mentioned is actually high enough. So you either need speed or height. I will tell you where pace comes in handy: in flat tracks, in pitches and conditions where the ball doesn't swing and seam. So even if you have no other things going for you you can strike with pace. There is a reason Irfan Pathan played his last international cricket match at the young age of 29. Once he lost his swing he was an easy target with that 130ish speed. If you are not tall or don't bowl at 140+, it's a matter of time before you are taken to the cleaners because you will not always be able to swing the ball. Almost all strike bowlers fulfill the height or speed criteria.
 

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Let's see the most bizarre selection in the world.

After disastrous WC T20I 2021 edition. Our F**k selectors decided to do some experimentation.
Let's see some Players played during that period to till now.

1. Samson - 2022 - Avg: 44.75 with SR: 158.41 (Improved significantly)
2. I Kishan - 2022 - Avg: 30.71 with SR: 130.30 (Does not click for him)
3. R Gaikwad - 2022 - Avg: 16.67 with SR: 123.46 (Does not able to perform)
4. S Iyer - 2022 - Avg: 40.91 with SR: 141.51 (Can replace Kohli in this format)
5. V Iyer - 2022 - Avg: 48.50 with SR: 179.63 (He is legit batting in lower order with this strike rate)
6. D Hooda - 2022 -Avg: 36.63 with SR: 153.40 (Another Middle Order batsman with Healthy SR)

Bowling
1. R Bishnoi - SR of 17 with ER of 7 (Leggie)
2. UM Malik
3. MD Siraj
4. A khan
5. SH Thakur


But the squad selected does not go with the indented goal. Rather same old Guards were selected.
This is just brain-dead selection which started from 2019 WC to till now.

I am sure for ODI WC they will go with Dhawan - Rohit combo. When currently we can introduce Gill-Shaw combo.
 

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it's one of those days.
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They can't blame anything this time. They were making claims like Aus is going to win 4-0 or 3-1 this time.

And this time we did not even mess up with the Pitches. They failed even then! They are entering the psychological effect which Eng had in Ashes from mid 80s to mid 2000s.
 

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They can't blame anything this time. They were making claims like Aus is going to win 4-0 or 3-1 this time.

And this time we did not even mess up with the Pitches. They failed even then! They are entering the psychological effect which Eng had in Ashes from mid 80s to mid 2000s.
Apparently numbers show that Indian cricket is in the middle of a phenomenon

Batting in India is hard now
 

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Opening again as we are losing yet another ICC event.

Trophy less for 10 years now.
 

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The Cricket worship and fandom culture in India means that cricketers get to stay in the Team way past their sell date merely based on popularity.

Rohit- Gill - Pujara - Kohli - Rahane

If one did an objective analysis of India's top 5 batters in this Test, 4 of them don't deserve a place in the Team purely based on their performances over the last 2 years in Test matches.

The other one being Gill, who made it to the Test team because of pure potential rather than actual performance in Tests.
 

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