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Feb 12, 2014
The wackiest conspiracy theories people still believe

We live in a golden age of wackadoodle conspiracy theories. The nature of the internet, and especially social media, means that anyone with a half-baked idea rattling around in their head can build themselves a soapbox and start screaming it at the top of their lungs. To wit, just this week, rapper BoB got in an extended Twitter back-and-forth with astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson about whether the Earth is, in fact, flat.

Collected below are our favorite of the crazy conspiracy theories that are clearly nonsense, but no matter what, people keep talking about them.

Hollow Earth
While it’s Flat Earth conspiracy theories that are getting their day in the sun right now, they aren’t the only completely nonsensical, unscientific theory about the nature of our planet that weirdos online insist on clinging to. Despite all geological and physical evidence to the contrary, some folks choose to believe that the inside of our Earth is hollow, and invariably filled with some combination of weird races, magical beings, fantastical cities, lost civilizations, and so on.

Aliens built everything
This one’s much older than the Ancient Aliens television show that served to popularize it. The idea that aliens came down to Earth to help ancient peoples build fantastic structures got its biggest boost back in the late ’60s with the release of Erich von Däniken’s seminal work of speculative history, Chariots of the Gods? Despite evidence that these structures — while certainly impressive — are totally buildable using period methods and tools, ancient aliens conspiracy theorists insist that space-people are a much more logical explanation. This theory is particularly upsetting and damaging, as it’s most often used as a way of explaining how people of color built massive structures during a time when white people were living in caves.

The Middle Ages don’t exist
Speaking of historical white Europeans lagging behind the rest of the world, let’s talk about the Middle Ages, shall we? Though there’s plenty of evidence that the years between 614 and 911 did actually, in fact, occur, in the middle of the 20th century, German historian Heribert Illig decided that nope, they were actually just made up. Illig — and those who follow in his footsteps — contend that the creation of the Middle Ages was an effort to prop up what remained of the fractured Roman empire by way of skipping ahead to the year 1000 and even inventing historical figures and events whole cloth.

Fake moon landing
This one takes a bunch of different forms, with some people claiming that we’ve never walked on the moon, others claiming that only the first moon landing was faked, and pretty much everything in between. There’s a wealth of amateur, psuedo-science evidence as to how or why the moon landing was faked — including “clues” left in Stanley Kubrick’s The Shining and 2001: A Space Odyssey — but just keep in mind that astronaut Buzz Aldrin has punched people in the mouth for asking him about it.

The Moon doesn’t exist
For some people, just thinking that we never landed on the moon isn’t enough. They go way further, maintaining that the moon — that big floating chunk of rock hanging out in the night sky — doesn’t actually exist at all. This one is particularly half-baked, even by conspiracy theory standards, but most variations claim that the moon is just a hologram, created in order to, um, do something. As for what this means for things like the ocean’s tides, maybe there’s something inside this big hollow planet of ours that causes them?

Denver has an evil airport
Airports suck, obviously. They’re like really expensive bus stations. But some people think that the Denver International Airport is beyond just awful, that it’s downright evil. The specifics run the gamut depending on which crazy person you happen to be talking to, but they usually involve a potent blend of the New World Order, FEMA, death camps, Satan, black magic and government-created diseases, all propped up by misinformation about the airport’s layout and admittedly wonky artistic choices.

Lizard people
This is, to my mind, the craziest conspiracy theory, because despite the fact that it’s completely absurd, rolling up elements of a dozen different theories and justifying dozens more, there are actually people who believe it. There are actually people who believe that the human race is in the thrall of monstrous alien, subterranean, magical and/or demonic lizard people, and that they’ve somehow managed to keep the situation under wraps for all these years.


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Feb 12, 2014

Paul died
According to this one, Paul McCartney, he of Wings and his little-known earlier band, The Beatles, died in an automobile accident in 1966 or 1967, and was subsequently replaced by a look-alike. Overeager conspiracy theorists found “evidence” everywhere, most notably in tracks from the White Album and the cover of Abbey Road. Really though, here’s all you need in order to realize this one is nonsense: Think about musicians who died in their youth. Kurt Cobain, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin. Do you really think that a Beatle could die and no one would leap in to make all that commemorative t-shirt money?

The Berenstein Bears
This one blew up rather recently, as people online suddenly realized that the book series they had enjoyed as kids, all about that friendly family of bears, was actually named the Berenstain Bears, not the Berenstein Bears. Now, some people would probably write this off as a case of faulty memory, of young children not remembering the spelling of a name with 100% accuracy (especially when it’s an uncommon variation of a much more popular surname ending). But really, isn’t the possibility that we’re living in a divergent timeline (which the conspiracy theorists believe is made apparent by the “spelling change”) much more plausible?

CERN was built to summon Osiris
CERN’s Large Hadron Collider is the subject of numerous conspiracy theories, with the most popular tending to revolve around the belief that the facility will create a black hole — intentionally or accidentally — that will consume the Earth. But that’s amateur hour stuff, that’s practically vanilla compared to this delicious conspiracy theory: That the CERN scientists are actually working to summon Osiris, the Egyptian god of the dead. The proof? That there is a Shiva statue near the LHC’s entrance which proves, uh, something?

The Illuminati were a real thing. They were. But they weren’t the shadowy cabal working to bring about the New World Order, they were German secret society founded back in the late 18th century, when practically any man of means had some type of connection to, if not a secret society, then at the very least some kind of fraternal order. Through fiction, imagined references, strained biblical readings, hand gestures made by celebrities and humanity’s general urge to believe that there’s something bigger and more powerful pulling the strings, the Illuminati have become a central part of practically any conspiracy theory if you dig deep enough. But, like most conspiracy theories, they fall apart when you consider both the overwhelming, otherworldly competency it would take to organize something like this, as well as the fact that there haven’t been any reliable whistleblowers.


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Feb 12, 2014
10 Weird Conspiracy Theories About Hitler’s Death

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Could Hitler be living out a secret existence on the Moon?

According to the history books, Adolf Hitler – arguably the worst and most reviled dictator to have ever lived – died on April 30, 1945 in Berlin, Germany, cowering in an underground bunker. Cause of death? Suicide. He swallowed a cyanide pill, then shot himself in the head. Afterwards, his remains were taken outside, doused in petrol, and set alight.

That’s the official story, of course… and yet not everyone is convinced that such a thing actually happened. As with Elvis and Tupac, some people simply don’t buy the official story and as a result, have conjured up their own elaborate theories and speculations as to what really happened. What if the story of his death was actually a major ruse that enabled him to escape and start a new life somewhere else?

Most of the conspiracy theories laid out in this way are notably wacky and unbelievable, but that doesn’t mean that a healthy number of them aren’t at least interesting to consider for the sheer hell of it – even if it’s only for a moment.

10. Hitler Jumped On A U-Boat And Fled To Antarctica

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Yes, this wacky theory purports that Adolf Hitler didn’t die in the Fuhrerbunker, but instead sought passage on a U-boat bound for the Antarctic.

This theory has “Bond villain” written all over it, given that it suggests Hitler was smuggled to a “Secret Nazi Fortress” hidden deep within the icy Antarctic wastelands. Unfortunately, this theory also supposes that said base was later blown up by the British and the Americans in a joint effort in the ’50s, who apparently did the deed with atomic weapons.

This theory holds serious weight for some people, but falls down for most due to the fact that a U-Boat probably wouldn’t have be able to make the trip to Antarctica, coupled with the fact that Germany never had any bases established there. Still, it’s sort of amusing to imagine Hitler freezing his butt off in the middle of nowhere, wondering what went wrong.

9. Hitler Escaped To Argentina, Settled In Paraguay & Became “Adolf Leipzig”

Simoni Renee Guerreiro Dias
According to author Simoni Renee Guerreiro Dias, who wrote the book Hitler: His Life and His Death, Hitler did not die from a gunshot of his own making back in 1945 – he actually boarded a U-Boat, went to Argentina, and finally settled down in a small town in Paraguay under the name “Adolf Leipzig.” He also married a local woman (pictured above).

The theory doesn’t just stop there, though. No, it also claims that Hitler specifically travelled to the area in order to hunt down a large amount of buried treasure using a map that had been provided to him by – wait for it – the Vatican.

Simoni Renee Guerreiro Dias spent two years researching this book, by the way, based on a pre-existing theory that historian Guy Walters described as “2,000 per cent rubbish.”

Why, exactly, Hitler opted to use the name “Adolf” upon arriving in South America is anybody’s guess – maybe he assumed that the last name the real Hitler would use whilst trying to remain undetected would be “Adolf?” Yes, that must be it.

8. Hitler Boarded A Rocket And Fled To The Moon

Imagine you’re the most wanted man on Earth – not to mention the most hated. After laying waste to Europe and committing countless crimes against the human race, there’s really probably only one place left for you, according to this wacky theory: the Moon.

Yes, this is a genuine conspiracy
theory that purports that Adolf Hitler fled Germany as the war ended and lived out the rest of his days quite happily on that big, glowing orb in the sky. This theory is apparently made plausible by way of another theory – one which assumes that Germany, what with their advanced weapons technologies such as the V2 rocket – had already won the space race in 1942. Take that, America and Russia!

Imagine, then, that Hitler escaped from Germany, climbed into a rocket, arrived on the Moon in one piece, before settling down to his new life in an underground lunar base. Just to add another far-out shade to this theory, it also suggests that the Nazis made contact with UFOs. You know, because Hitler on the Moon wasn’t deemed outlandish enough.

7. Hitler Cloned Himself And Escaped To South America

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The people who come up with these conspiracy theories really think a lot of Germany technology in 1945. That’s going by this theory, for example,
which purports that Adolf Hitler successfully managed to clone himself using the help of one Dr. Josef Mengele.

That’s right: fearing that the end was nigh, Hitler – who always had an interest in biomechanics (which is, to be fair, quite true) managed to successfully clone himself before the end of the war, left said clone in the Fuhrerbunker to face the wrath of the advancing Russians, and subsequently fled to South America. Said theory is supposed to account for the fact that the remains of Hitler’s charred body were never found.

The particular theory also inspired the infamous novel The Boys From Brazil by Ira Levin, which sees several members of the German high command living out in the jungle and plotting to bring back the Third Reich. Or perhaps it was the other way around?

which purports that Adolf Hitler successfully managed to clone himself using the help of one Dr. Josef Mengele.

That’s right: fearing that the end was nigh, Hitler – who always had an interest in biomechanics (which is, to be fair, quite true) managed to successfully clone himself before the end of the war, left said clone in the Fuhrerbunker to face the wrath of the advancing Russians, and subsequently fled to South America. Said theory is supposed to account for the fact that the remains of Hitler’s charred body were never found.

The particular theory also inspired the infamous novel The Boys From Brazil by Ira Levin, which sees several members of the German high command living out in the jungle and plotting to bring back the Third Reich. Or perhaps it was the other way around?

6. Hitler Escaped Through A Secret Tunnel & Disappeared Underground Forever

Another theory proposes that Hitler did not end up as a pile of charred ashes in a Berlin courtyard, and – instead – managed to escape his Fuhrerbunker through a secret tunnel. This tunnel, rather conveniently, led him to a waiting airship, which the dictator then used to fly all the way to – wait for it – the South Pole.

It was in the South Pole, then, that Hitler supposedly did something truly miraculous: he disappeared into the “hollow Earth,” where he subsequently lived out the rest of his days.

If that sounds nuts, this theory came about on account of the fact that many German scientists genuinely believed the Earth to be hollow at the time – and there are still conspiracy theorists who believe such a thing is true today. The Nazis even set about on several expeditions to prove it, but never managed to confirm the truth. Wonder why.


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Feb 12, 2014
5. Hitler Fled To Spain And Was Taken In By General Franco

This particularly elaborate theory suggests that Adolf Hitler managed
to board a a plane before the Russians descended on Berlin, and then decided that his best shot at living out the rest of his days in one piece were probably in Spain.

Upon arrival, the theory proposes that Hitler was taken in by none other than Francisco Franco – yes, General Franco – where he was put up as a guest at the Spanish Caudillo’s fortress and lived there in peace until he died of a heart attack a couple of years later.

This theory came about based on reports from a driver who was apparently sent to meet a German plane at Madrid airport on April 30, 1945. The man inside the plane had “no luggage” and was taken directly to Franco’s palace. A month later, an area of the fortress was sealed off with no explanation, leading many to believe that Hitler was staying there.

This one has all the makings of a wonderfully creative sitcom, doesn’t it?

4. Hitler Escaped To Argentina And Lived In A Luxurious Hotel Owned By Some Friends

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There are lots of theories that lay claim to the idea that Hitler went to South America in some capacity, but this one takes the cake in the “wishful thinking” department.

This conspiracy theory presents the idea that, after making his way into Argentina, Hitler was able to nab room at a luxurious Argentinian hotel, which sounds like something a Nazi Wes Anderson might like to turn into a film. The hotel in question, The Eden in La Falda, Cordoba, was at the time owned by Ida and Walter Eichhorn, who were said to be close friends of the former Fuhrer. Once, he even sent them a Mercedes-Benz as a present.

Noam Shalev, one of the men behind this theory, said: “We will never know the truth. But there is enough evidence to build an alternative theory about what happened to Hitler.” Which sounds an awful lot like he knows that the idea is completely nuts, no?

3. Hitler Was Secretly A British Secret Agent Who Was Killed By A James Bond Character

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Yeah, so, get ready for this bombshell…

Hitler, it turns out, might have actually been a British secret agent the whole time. That is, he was according to theories laid out in Greg Hallett’s controversial book titled “Hitler Was A British Agent,” which is about the most straight-to-the-point title ever conceived.

Hallett argues that Hitler was actually born in England and in 1912 was trained at the “British Military Psych-Ops War School” at Tavistock in Devon, before unleashing a whole host of theories concerning the Fuhrer of Germany having actually been brainwashed under the Illuminati (which also doubles as “England,” apparently) whilst working for the British power elite – not to mention having sex with lots and lots of men in the process.

This theory also proposes that Hitler was eventually extracted from Germany by the British secret service and later killed (or “assassinated”) by a James Bond type character.

2. Hitler Escaped And Became A Famous Art Collector Called “Father Crespi”

Before he was a tyrant, Hitler was a painter. Could it possible, then, that he escaped from his bunker, fled – just like in so many of these theories – to South America and assumed a new identity as an Argentine art collector named “Father Crespi?”

According to one theory, that’s absolutely what happened. In 1981, a US Army Colonel named Wendell Stephens travelled to Ecuador and encountered a priest who he believed to be Adolf Hitler. Nobody listened to him, of course, because the conviction sounded downright crazy. Stephens also claimed that Crespi – or Hitler – had stashed away a number of priceless paintings. Crespi, as one might expect, denied he was Hitler.

For a lot of conspiracy theorists, this particular theory falls down on the basis that Hitler was believed to have Parkinson’s disease in his later years, and would not have been able to live until the year 1993 – as Crespi very much did – without anyone noticing as such (you know, because it was an incredibly plausible theory before that, wasn’t it?).

1. Hitler Faked His Own Death And Was Abducted By Aliens

Just when you thought it couldn’t get weirder, there’s a bonafide theory out there which purports that Hitler didn’t die but was abducted by some aliens that he painted once.

According to William H. Carpenter, Head of the Carpenter Foundation for Extraterrestrial Research and the Arts (which is a thing), Hitler was a firm believer in alien life and even snuck a few UFOs into his 1913 painting “Madonna and Child.”

Carpenter also said: “Hitler’s rise to power and the Nazis’ stunning successes in conquering Europe can be explained in only one way. He had help.”

Help from alien creatures, that is! This theory links to several others that claim Hitler, a friend of the aliens, in fact faked his own death using a body double and was subsequently beamed up to a large ship in outer space before the Russians marched on Berlin. Just take a moment to process all that information for a second.


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Feb 12, 2014
Conspiracy theories: Testing the formula designed to debunk the world's weirdest claims

The mainstream media published a story this week. They wanted you to believe that an academic had devised a mathematical model showing that if conspiracy theories such as faked Moon landings to dodgy vaccines were really true, someone would have blabbed about them way before now.

Like you were the sheeple, not the people.

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Why are so many Americans in the thrall of conspiracy theorists?

Well, I’ve been investigating this thing, looking at websites that would BLOW YOUR MIND. So let me tell you the REAL story.

Are you sitting comfortably? Have you swept the room for CIA/MI5/UFO surveillance devices? Then we shall begin.

This all started when someone who says he is Oxford University physicist Dr David Robert Grimes published a paper, “On the Viability of Conspiratorial Beliefs”, in the peer-reviewed online journal PloS ONE.

He examined the time it took to expose proven cover-ups, and calculated – based on his estimates of how many people would have known about the plot – how long some conspiracies could have endured before the truth leaked out.

Dr Grimes said he had shown “how eyewateringly unlikely some alleged conspiracies are”. He reckoned a vaccination conspiracy involving Big Pharma would be blown in just 3.15 years, a plot to suppress the discovery of a cancer cure within 3.17 years.

And that’s when it all started getting a little spooky. Because I phoned someone – someone heavily involved in investigating this stuff – to ask how they could believe the Apollo Moon landings were faked.

Dr Grimes reckoned that with Nasa employing up to 411,000 people at the time, someone would have spilled the beans within 3.68 years. So how come no one had blown the whistle in the 47 years since the first Apollo landing in 1969?

The answer, when the source thought about it, was so obvious. “Someone did blow the whistle!”

You just had to take a close look at those so-called photographs of the so-called Moon landings: anomalous footprints everywhere. Whistle-blowing stagehands had left a whole trail of clues, if only we hadn’t been too stupid to see them. “This is bigger than just going to the Moon,” insisted the source. “Check out Corona satellites … Apollo was a cover for installing a spy satellite ring. This was top secret stuff…”

What about Dr Grimes?

“You’ve got a brain. Look at the bigger picture. Our Nasa friends are facing challenges – financially, politically. If you are an academic taking so much trouble to publish this, I would suggest you are firefighting.”

It got spookier. According to Ian Henshall, the author of 9/11 Revealed: The New Evidence I should have been asking who the real conspiracy theorists were.

Could I really believe official accounts of a bunch of guys destroying the Twin Towers from a cave in Afghanistan?

“I would say the official 9/11 conspiracy has been exposed as false,” said Mr Henshall, 64, a coffee shop owner. “But most people think I’m the conspiracy theorist for saying so.

“And George Bush: was he really the idiotic dupe?”

George W Bush? Intelligent? It sounded crazy, but unlike the Moon landings, this stuff was real.

Because here was the post-turquoise phase granddaddy of them all, David Icke, telling an American TV talk show host: “The ground is being prepared for this global Orwellian state … able to stay under the radar, manipulate in the shadows…”

Icke tweeted his response to Dr Grimes’s study: “How about if compartmentalisation means most don’t have the big secrets and those who do are scared to reveal them?

“What are the ‘maths’ on that mate?”

Ah, compartmentalisation: working on a need to know basis, thousands of people employed on the Apollo project, but only a senior handful knowing where Neil Armstrong was really taking his giant leap for mankind.

Helpfully, Icke’s website included a link to a news story about Dr Grimes’s report. And it had been archived under “Illuminati criminals” and “mind control”!!!

What was it Icke had said? “Where do the mainstream media go to get a fix on reality (if they bother to question it all)? They go the System’s scientists…”

Well I was going to Dr Grimes, to ask him some real questions. Such as: “What are the maths on that mate?” And “How long have you been an Illuminati criminal in the pay of Nasa?” Oh, he was good.

“I’ve never been called an Illuminati criminal before,” he said, all Irish charm and, as he put it on his twitter feed, “foppish hair”. “It’s definitely a step up from doctor.”

He was not an Illuminati criminal, he said, just someone concerned about how belief in conspiracies can corrode belief in science, producing situations where otherwise sensible people refuse to vaccinate their children or choose “alternative” cancer therapies over lifesaving mainstream treatments. As for compartmentalisation, given how universal vaccination was, his numbers for those involved in any conspiracy there were probably “a massive underestimate”.

“Scientists thrive on testing each other’s data,” he added. “You’d have to get every researcher in the field in on the secret.” And about those Moon landings: “How many rockets did Nasa have? How many test fields, where people would wonder why nothing had been tested successfully? The fakery would have had to have existed throughout the organisation.

“That’s before you consider the Russians, who would have been monitoring everything … And the stuff left on the Moon that you can shine lasers back off …”

“The conspiratorial fringe,” he sighed, “Will always believe. It’s fascinating psychology – ideological reasoning: what’s most important is that the construct exists, and you shape all evidence to fit it.”

I was almost convinced. Until I asked about Nasa.

“If I ever get a cheque from Nasa,” he “joked”, “I’ll buy you a beer.”

What? Was he trying to buy my silence, about his own academic conspiracy? “Oh no,” he laughed, “No.”

But he would say that, wouldn’t he?


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Feb 12, 2014
The Illuminati rules?: Sorry, conspiracy theorists, but “secret societies” do not run the world
"Secret elites" are not America's problem. Looking to jury-rigged politics and voter apathy is more to the point

In the days since the FBI reportedly foiled a terrorist attack on a Masonic center in Milwaukee, the Internet has been abuzz with talk of the hidden influence of Freemasonry, the Illuminati and other “secret societies.” Much of it is utter fantasy – but the stakes are higher than ever before.

In today’s weapon-laden, conspiracy-addicted (“X Files,” anyone?) culture, we can no longer hide from the real-life implications of throwing around accusations about “bloodlines” of wealth and hidden cabals. These things have dark and tragic consequences in today’s America.

For more than a century, modern jihadists have spouted anti-Masonic propaganda – but my concern here is with our nation’s homegrown variety. People have stopped me on basketball courts to ask if I am a member of the Illuminati because of my all-seeing eye tattoo; after appearing on radio shows I get comments like: “Horowitz is nothing more than a positive PR agent for satanic child sacrificing Illuminati scumbags” (I’m really not); people write to ask me about the latest nefarious imagery in Disney cartoons; bloggers want to know if President Obama is a member of Prince Hall Masonry (a traditionally African-American Masonic organization).

As a longtime historian of esoteric spirituality and the occult, let me be clear: The concentration of wealth and power in today’s world stems from corrupted policies and a lack of accountability and transparency – not bloodlines of wealth, underground cabals, or secret clubs, talk of which necessarily leads to very dark places and zero political progress.

I admit it: I admire the civic ideals and sense of self-improvement that runs throughout Masonry; I share its aesthetic taste for ancient symbols and a belief that certain threads of wisdom have passed through generations, sometimes conveyed through symbols. Yes, some of our founders, such as George Washington, were Masons; and 14 of 44 American presidents have been Masons (though the last fully fledged Mason to occupy the Oval Office was the mysterious Gerald Ford). Masonry was, at one time, part of our political firmament: The organization’s ideals of ecumenism, religious freedom and free elections appealed to the instincts of the founding fathers. Yet Masonry’s political influence has been on the wane since 1826, a year of populist anti-elitism, instigated in part by future president Andrew Jackson, himself a Mason. Since then Masonry has been an increased subject of rumors and a vastly decreased presence on the political scene.

The Illuminati has a similar history. The supposedly all-powerful, shadow group is said to include everyone from Alan Greenspan to Lady Gaga. In fact, the Illuminati have not existed for more than two centuries. The group was born in the early ferment of the revolutionary period in America and France. Founded by Bavarian philosopher and jurist Adam Weishaupt in 1776, the Illuminati advocated for then-radical ideals such as separation of church and state, free assembly, and democratic elections. The group employed occult symbols to indicate its sense of attachment to ancient civilizations, its embrace of radical ecumenism, and its affinity for Freemasonry, which Weishaupt, a friend of Mozart and Goethe, hoped could be transformed into a political vehicle for Enlightenment values. Weishaupt conducted his activities in secret partly because he wanted to infiltrate traditional Masonic lodges, which were not overtly political, and partly because the Bavarian government would have executed him for organizing against the aristocracy.

“If Wishaupt [sic] had written here,” wrote Thomas Jefferson in January 1800, “where no secrecy is necessary in our endeavors to render men wise & virtuous, he would not have thought of any secret machinery for that purpose.”

The Bavarian government put an end to the Illuminati within about nine years of its founding by banning all secret societies. So why are we still talking about it? In the wake of the French Revolution, influential conspiracy tracts bubbled up from Europe blaming the anti-clerical Illuminati for the demise of the old regime. Later on, similar conspiracies implicated the Illuminati and Freemasonry in the Bolshevik Revolution, an event that appeared to occur so suddenly and with such ferocity that Tsarist loyalists were at a loss to explain how the world they knew could vanish so completely. Rather than looking to grossly flawed policies, negligent and repressive governance, futile and horrific warfare, and administrative incompetence, they looked toward an easier answer in the existence of a “hidden hand” – anti-church, anti-monarchial and transnational in reach. Conspiracists had little trouble marrying this view to long-standing attitudes of anti-Semitism and xenophobia.


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Feb 12, 2014
Conspiracy Theories: Providing the answers we want, not the answers we need

I have a confession. When I was 16 years old, I was really into conspiracy theories.

The year was 2012, and Barack Obama was running for reelection against Mitt Romney. Despite the fact that I wasn't yet old enough to vote, I wanted to make sure I was supporting the right candidate.

I started to pay attention to various news outlets — some liberal and some conservative — and what I noticed was that the most compelling arguments always came from voices on the extreme ends of the ideological spectrum. The moderates always had a degree of doubt in their beliefs, but the extremists seemed to know exactly what they were talking about. They had all the answers, and their answers always involved the idea that a web of powerful individuals were running things, and the rest of us needed to wake up and realize what was going on.

As I got older, I slowly outgrew that worldview. I concluded that a much more plausible explanation is that this planet is home to billions of people who are all trying to create the best lives they possibly can for themselves and their loved ones. Yes, there are some people who hold more power than perhaps any one person should be trusted with, and greediness often causes them to abuse that power, but there's no New World Order. Just individuals acting in pursuit of their own interests.

In contrast, there are many high-profile public figures who disagree with my perspective. Let's start with a fun one.

Last week, rapper B.o.B went on an extensive Twitter rant about how certain he is that the world is flat. This got the attention of astrophysicist, Neil deGrasse Tyson, who didn't hesitate to refute B.o.B's claims.

At first glance, this seems like a benign misconception, but if you listen to B.o.B's "diss track" attacking Neil deGrasse Tyson titled "Flatline," you'll realize that this isn't simply an isolated gap in B.o.B's knowledge.

The song shows that B.o.B thinks the lies we've been told about the earth being round are just one part of a larger conspiracy perpetrated by the "globalists" in order to institute a world government.

Having misinformed entertainers is bad, but having misinformed policymakers is worse. Our county's sheriff, Joe Arpaio, recently endorsed Donald Trump for president of the United States. On the issue of conspiracy theories, those guys go way back. (Watch this video if you want to laugh.)

Trump also infamously stated that "the concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."

Generally, conspiracy theories are appealing because they present simplified answers to difficult problems.

Truthfully, I wish Trump were right, because that would make the crisis at hand a whole lot easier to solve. Unfortunately, the world is more complicated than that. We're dealing with corporations of all different sizes trying to meet the demands of seven billion people from 196 countries who all want to have a higher standard of living.

Some of the problems we face as a species are challenging and intimidating. That doesn't mean we should look for an easy way out of addressing them.


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Feb 12, 2014
Time to rescue Netaji from the grip of conspiracy theories

I’m not a historian nor an expert on Subhas Chandra Bose but I find it inexplicable, even baffling, that many, including members of his close family, refuse to believe he died in a plane crash on the 18th of August 1945. That some actually believe he spent years incarcerated in a Soviet Gulag camp or hiding in Manchuria or disguised as Gunnami Baba is simply unbelievable. Yet some people do.

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However, for those who wish to be rational it’s possible to work out what happened to Bose. I’m not relying on the files declassified last weekend. They, no doubt, help. But the best compilation of the evidence is available on Compiled over 25 years of meticulous research by the London-based journalist Ashis Ray, one of Bose’s great nephews, it presents a compelling case.

Ray’s research shows that Bose was in Malaya when he heard the Japanese had offered to surrender. That was on the 12th of August 1945. He then returned to Singapore where he learnt the Japanese were prepared to give him shelter in Japan. On the 16th of August he began the journey that was intended to take him to Tokyo.

In the first stage he got to Bangkok. There he decided that although he would go to Tokyo, to thank the Japanese government for all the assistance they had given him, he would, thereafter, proceed to Russia via Manchuria. Unfortunately, things worked out very differently.

On the 17th Bose left Bangkok reaching Saigon by midday. That evening he took off for Taipei but because darkness was falling the pilot made an unscheduled night-stop at Tourane on the Indo-China coast.

On the 18th — the day he died — Bose took off from Tourane for Tokyo via Taipei, where concerns arose about one of the plane’s engines. Although the engineers satisfied themselves the problem was clearly not resolved.

Shortly after the plane left Taipei for Tokyo a loud explosion was heard. The plane tilted to its left and one of its propellers fell off. It crashed 100 metres beyond the runaway and caught fire.

Col. Rahman, Bose’s ADC, who was with him, has graphically described his injuries and the last message he left for the Indian people. At least three others, who attended to Bose at the Nanmon military hospital where he was taken, have given an account of his last hours. They are Capt. Yoshimi, the Medical Officer In-charge of the hospital, Dr Tsuruta, a Japanese doctor, and a Taiwanese nurse.

Now, the files released last weekend add that Capt. Nakamura, a Taiwanese translator, was also present when Bose died. He says his last words were: “I want to sleep.” Ten minutes later, Nakamura reports, he died.

Ashis Ray comes to the following conclusion: “There is overwhelming, irrefutable, hard documentary evidence to reconfirm that Subhas Bose unquestionably met with a plane crash at Taipei on 18th August 1945.” He died hours later. Bose’s daughter, Anita Pfaff, accepts this. Is it just their fondness for conspiracy theories that prevents others agreeing?

Anita Pfaff has suggested a DNA test be done on the remains which are said to be her father’s at the Renkoji Temple in Tokyo. It’s an eminently sensible idea. But the problem is: What happens if they turn out not to be Bose’s ashes? Does that mean he didn’t die in the air crash? And that he’s still alive somewhere?

For those who don’t want to accept there will always be some reason not to believe.


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Feb 12, 2014
Most conspiracy theories have one giant problem

Conspiracy theorists have it easy. They can say whatever they want without having to back it up with silly things like “evidence” or “facts.” That’s why famous rapper and notorious non-scientist B.o.B. can claim that the Earth is flat, and when astrophysicist and science communicator extraordinaire Neil DeGrasse Tyson’s tries to respectfully convince him otherwise, just say:

Globalists see me as a threat
Free thinking, got the world at my neck
Hah, am I paranoid? Picture Malcolm X
In a room full of pigs, trying not to bust a sweat
Aye, Neil Tyson need to loosen up his vest
They’ll probably write that man one hell of a check

Unfortunately, it doesn’t take a very public twitter battle to know that conspiracy theorists don’t respond to reason. Climate deniers have been telling us that for years. But what if there was another way to take these suckers down? According to a new study published this week in the journal PLOS ONE, conspiracy theories all have one fatal flaw (well, they have a lot, but stay with me): They give people too much credit.

As the study’s author, physicist and postdoctoral researchers at Oxford University David Grimes, points out, it’s not that easy to keep secrets, especially when thousands of people are in on those secrets. So if conspiracy theories are right, then eventually, someone’s gonna spill the beans. The question is: How long will it take?

To answer that question, Grimes devised a formula to predict likelihood of a conspiracy being leaked from the inside over a given period of time, given the number of people who are in on the hoax. He then tested the formula — let’s call it the Grimes’ Theory Falsification Option, or GTFO — on a few of the more popular crocks of shit conspiracy theories currently floating around: the moon landing was faked, climate change isn’t real, vaccines are dangerous, and there’s a cure for cancer, but “vested interests” are suppressing it. And he found that if those theories were true, then we probably would’ve found out by now.

According to the GTFO, the moon landing hoax should’ve been exposed within 3.68 years, the cancer cure should’ve been exposed within 3.17 years, and vaccines should be exposed within 34.78 years if only the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and World Health Organization are in on that and within 3.15 years if drug companies are in on it, too. As for climate change — that pile of liberal lies should’ve been exposed within 26.77 years if only active scientific researchers were involved and just 3.7 years if all scientific bodies that endorse the scientific consensus on climate change were involved.

Here’s a look at these results (the vertical axis represents the likelihood of someone spilling the beans, and the x-axis represents time in years):

Failure probability over time for (a) NASA moon-landing hoax, (b) climate change hoax, (c) vaccination conspiracy, and (d) suppressed cancer cure conspiracy.
Grimes DR (2016) On the Viability of Conspiratorial Beliefs. PLoS ONE 11(1): e0147905. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0147905
Unable to know for sure how many people were/are in on these hoaxes, Grimes estimated that 411,000 people knew about the moon landing, 405,000 know about climate change, 22,000 know about vaccines, and 714,000 know about the cancer cure.

These estimates are a clear source of uncertainty in the results, but even if Grimes knew these numbers exactly, the formula comes with a few other sources of uncertainty.

The whole thing is based on data from three hoaxes that actually turned out to be true: the NSA spying scandal (whistleblower: Ed Snowden); the Tuskegee syphilis experiment, in which African American men infected with syphilis were not given a known cure (whistleblower: Peter Buxtun); and the FBI forensics scandal, in which pseudoscientific techniques led to the arrests of innocent men, some of whom were ultimately executed (whistleblower: Frederic Whitehurst).

Grimes estimated how many people were in on these scandals and how long it took for someone to blow the whistle and then used those estimates to create the GTFO — a prediction of how long it should take for someone to spill the beans on other hoaxes, given how many people (probably) know about it.

So there’s already some uncertainty baked right into the formula, since the data from those old scandals were just estimates (although, to be fair, Grimes erred on the high side for both metrics, assuming that more people were able to keep the secrets for longer, and thus giving conspiracy theorists a bit more breathing room).

And as Grimes points out in the paper, he doesn’t take into account things like the motivations and interactions of the individuals involved — both of which would, presumably, influence the extent to which those individuals would want to keep whatever secret they’re guarding.

But flaws aside, Grimes is right — people suck at keeping secrets. And if hundreds of thousands of people are perpetuating a lie about how we’re destroying the planet, then you know what? Good for them. That’s a genuinely impressive feat, and they should be applauded. Unfortunately, they aren’t, and we are destroying the planet.

That said, I did recently hear something about ancient aliens programming scientists to believe that climate change is real. And as far as I know, Grimes’ formula doesn’t account for brainwashing, so …


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Feb 12, 2014
How to Tell If Conspiracy Theories Are Real: Here's the Math

A faked moon landing or a hidden cure for cancer are just a couple of large-scale conspiracies that, if true, would have come to light within five years following their alleged cover-ups, according to a mathematical formula put together by one physicist.

David Robert Grimes, a postdoctoral research associate at the University of Oxford who studies cancer, is familiar with conspiracy theorists. His mainstream writing for the likes of The Guardian and BBC News has included controversial topics that lend themselves to conspiracies, including homosexuality, climate change and water fluoridation.

"The charge that there is a scientific conspiracy afoot is a common one," said Grimes, in an email interview with Live Science, "and almost inevitably those making these charges will descend into accusing one of shilling or being an agent of some malignant entity." In response to his work, conspiracy theorists have threatened him, even tried to get him removed from his academic position. These interactions made Grimes curious about why conspiracies have such a strong hold on so many people, and the chances that they might be true. [Top 10 Conspiracy Theories Explained]

For this new study, Grimes considered four common conspiracy beliefs: that NASA faked the 1969 moon landing during the Apollo 11 mission, that human-caused climate change isn't real, that vaccines are unsafe, and that pharmaceutical companies are hiding cancer cures from the public. He created an equation to figure out how long these four cover-ups would likely last (if indeed they were cover-ups), given how many people are involved, the likelihood of leaks from the inside (whether on purpose or by accident), and how much upkeep would be required to keep everything under wraps.

To estimate the chances that any one person would reveal secret activities, Grimes looked at three actual leaked conspiracies: the National Security Agency's surveillance program, which was brought to light in 2013 by NSA contractor Edward Snowden; the Tuskegee syphilis experiment, in which a then-new treatment of penicillin was withheld from infected participants in the experiment, finally exposed by Peter Buxtun in 1972 ; and the pseudoscientific forensic tests of the Federal Bureau of Investigation that resulted in innocent men being held or even executed for crimes they didn't commit. It took six years, 25 years and six years for the three conspiracies to be exposed, respectively. With those numbers, he found the odds of a conspiracy-ending leak, whether accidental or deliberate, could be as low as around 4 in 1 million. [The Reality of Climate Change: 10 Myths Busted]

Grimes then calculated the potential success of the four conspiracies that continue to garner support. He used the best-case scenario for the conspirators, where the fewest number of people are involved who could leak such undercover machinations. The moon landing had an advantage over the other three scenarios because it could've potentially occurred without having to bring in new conspirators to preserve the hoax — this means the only people who are keeping secrets die off over time. Using peak NASA employment numbers from 1965 (411,000 people), and allowing for the fact that those involved would eventually die, the moon hoax still lasts less than four years, according to Grimes' calculations. In the end, Grimes finds that if any more than 650 people were involved in creating the moon hoax and keeping it a secret, the cat would be out of the bag.

Using the same equation but modifying it to consider the need for added conspirators, the "lie" of climate change would last nearly 27 years if only scientists were involved in the cover-up, but under four years if scientific bodies were to take part. The vaccination conspiracy makes it to almost 35 years if it's confined to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization, but is revealed in three years and two months if drug companies are co-conspirators. The suppression of a cancer cure — maintained by Novartis, Pfizer, Roche, Sanofi, Merck and Co., Johnson and Johnson, GlaxoSmithKline and AstraZeneca — fails after around three years and three months as well.

Although he seems to be talking directly to the conspiracy-minded with this piece, Grimes is not idealistic about its impact.

"I think true believers will never change their views; in the words of Leon Festinger, 'A man with a conviction is a hard man to change,'" he said. "While these people are ideologically deeply invested in a given narrative, I would hope that this paper might help the more rational people who have maybe heard some claims and want to ascertain if they're probable or not."

His main concern is the myths and conspiracies that could cause serious harm, such as climate change doubters and the anti-vaccination movement. As more people forgo vaccinations for their kids, so-called herd immunity — in which large numbers of people with immunity from a disease can shield smalls numbers of people who are not immune because outbreaks are unlikely — collapses. With this work Grimes is attempting to chip away at the less confident conspiracists and move them toward more science-based beliefs.


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Feb 12, 2014
The Oregon Standoff Conspiracy Theories Are Just Getting Started
Theories about the Oregon standoff range from drone attacks to retired Navy SEALs parachuting from the sky to help fight the federal government

By James King and Jacob Steinblatt on Jan 29, 2016 at 2:52 AM
Patches on the sleeve of a militiaman (REUTERS)
The standoff between the government and armed militants at an Oregon wildlife refuge isn’t over yet—four of the occupiers remain inside the refuge, the FBI said Thursday. And while it’s still ongoing, it will likely continue to fuel the wide range of conspiracy theories that it has inspired anti-government activists who sympathize with the militia to concoct.

“The negotiators continue to work around the clock to talk to those four people in an effort to get them to come out peacefully,” FBI Portland Special Agent in Charge Greg Bretzing said at a press conference Thursday night. Despite the feds’ claims that they seek a peaceful resolution to the standoff, some of the occupiers’ supporters believe they’re planning for a violent attack on the four remaining militia members.

On Wednesday, the Federal Aviation Administration issued a temporary flight restriction over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, where armed militants have been holed up since January 2 in protest of the federal government, in order to “provide a safe environment for law enforcement activities.”

Or at least that’s what the FAA claims.

Conspiracy theorists believe there is a far more sinister motivation behind the temporary flight restriction. “My guess: air assault, mortuary services mop-up and drone attacks,” said Dave Acton, a militia-sympathizing conspiracy theorist, in a video posted on Youtube on Wednesday—one of a spate of conspiracy theories about the Oregon standoff discovered by Vocativ deep web analysts.

Events like the standoff between the “patriot” militia group that took over the refuge in early January and federal authorities have often given way to some outlandish conspiracy theories concocted by anti-government activists, especially since the 1993 siege of the Branch Davidian complex in Waco, Texas. Most recently, over the summer of 2015, far-right-wing anti-government activist groups cooked up a theory that Jade Helm 15, a military training exercise in states across the southwest, was preparation for the federal government’s invasion of states like Texas and New Mexico.

Most of the conspiracy theories are based on the idea that the federal government is secretly plotting to take away the rights of citizens. The standoff in Oregon has led to some doozies along those lines.

“You have to understand this is training for what is to come….they are conditioning the American people to this kind of activity,” a Youtube user commented on Acton’s video. “I believe that these plans were made a long time ago…..these ‘incidents’ in Oregon and other places had to happen for this ‘training’ to happen. Soon it will be nationwide. Those who cheered what happened in Iraq….they did not know it was meant for them as well.”

Another theory that’s come out of the standoff in Oregon is that the militia members are actually actors paid by the federal government. In a different Youtube video posted on Wednesday, titled “Talent Releases For Fake Militia,” there’s a scene that appears to show militia members talking about signing a talent release form.

“Damn! Caught RED HANDED! I shared this video on all my social media pages!!! Share this people! the world needs to know!” one Youtube user wrote in the comment section of the video. Another commented, “During the entire stream past 24 hours the only time I’ve seen this dude run is to turn off the camera when they are talking about talent releases!!!”

Asked if there was any truth to any of the conspiracy theories surrounding the standoff at the wildlife refuge, an Arizona-based FBI agent who asked to not be identified responded with, “Are you kidding?”

Some of the other notable theories include the idea that a group of retired Navy SEALs are expected to parachute into the refuge and help the militia fend off federal authorities, and that a National Guard commando unit has been deployed to the area of the standoff in the event that the government decides to take action.

So far, one militia member, LaVoy Finicum, has been killed by law enforcement and 11 others have been arrested.

At the Thursday press conference, the FBI released video of the shooting of Finicum in an effort to dispel another theory started by militia members and supporters: that he was shot while on his knees and with his hands in the air. The video shows Finicum exit a vehicle after crashing into a snowbank in an attempt to avoid a law enforcement road block. Initially, Finicum’s hands are in the air as police approach him with their guns drawn. As authorities close in, Finicum is seen reaching to his side, where, the FBI said, he had a loaded 9-mm pistol in his pocket. An officer then fired several shots and Finicum dropped into the snow.

Despite the FBI’s claims that they are seeking a peaceful way to remove the remaining militia members, the occupiers are suspicious. “We’re still stuck here, four of us. They’re telling us it’s safe to leave, but it’s not safe,” a militiaman, believed to be David Fry, said in a video posted on YouTube.


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Feb 12, 2014
A wacky conspiracy is circulating about Zika and GMOs - and it needs to stop
Lydia Ramsey0 Jan 31, 2016, 12.30 AM
There's a wacky rumor going around about the Zika virus.

It centers around the bogus idea that genetically modified mosquitoes are to blame for the recent Zika outbreak across the Americas.

A number of articles cite a Redditor who seems to have jump-started the discussion about GM mosquitoes as a possible reason for the high number of cases in Brazil.

Not surprisingly, infectious disease experts think this idea is... well... laughable.

Here's the backstory:
Diseases like Zika, dengue, and yellow fever are spread by a mosquito called Aedes aegypti. To try and stop the spread of disease, scientists have started looking into how to quell mosquito populations.

One step some affected areas have tried involves introducing sterile mosquitos into the area to curb their populations and prevent the disease from spreading. In the past, researchers have done this by zapping the bugs with radiation. Unfortunately, that strategy can also make the mosquitoes less competitive and more resistant to mating. So a company called Oxitec tried a different approach: genetically modifying male mosquitoes, which in turn seek out female mosquitoes and mate with them, resulting in no offspring - and eventually, a sizeably smaller mosquito population, if all goes well.

Oxitec is planning on building out its pilot project in Piracicaba, Brazil, an area that's particularly hard hit by viruses stemming from the Aedes aegypti mosquito. Right now, Oxitec's mosquitos are able to cover about 5,000 people in a district of the city, but the company plans to spread the mosquitos to cover the up-to-60,000-person urban center soon. Longer term, Oxitec said it's going to be able to scale out the project to cover about 300,000 people.

But, as with anything that includes the words "genetically modified," some are leery about the prospect this potential solution.

A blessing, not a curse
When we chatted with Alex Perkins, a Notre Dame biological sciences professor, about the Zika mosquito conspiracy, he told us nothing could be farther from the truth.

In fact, "It could very well be the case that genetically modified mosquitos could end up being one of the most important tools that we have to combat Zika," Perkins said. "If anything, we should potentially be looking into using these more."

Also unsurprisingly, Oxitec thinks the rumors are bogus as well. Oxitec CEO Hadyn Parry said it's "Simply untrue. All vector control solutions - insecticides, traps, and 'sterile' mosquitoes get deployed in areas with a high incidence of disease to help stop the spread of the disease at its source," he said. "The fewer the mosquitoes, the lower the risk of disease. Our approach has proven to be more effective than the alternatives with a lower environmental impact."

Plus, the disease has been around longer than the genetically engineered mosquitoes:

Plus, the disease has been around longer than the genetically engineered mosquitoes.
Zika was originally found in Uganda in the 1947. The GM mosquito project started in 2015.

Aside from that fact, the outbreak would be spreading regardless of whether or not GM mosquitos were present. "There's no evidence that genetically modified mosquitos have a role, but we wouldn't need the [insects] to have an outbreak," said Dr. Andrew Pavia, Chief of the Division of Pediatric Infectious Diseases at the University of Utah Health Care.

And Aedes aegypti are also spreading the disease plenty of areas where the genetically modified mosquitos have not been introduced.

About Zika
Only about one in five people infected with Zika ever shows symptoms, which most commonly include fever, rash, joint pain, and red eyes.

One reason Zika is troubling is that it has been linked to birth defects. After some mothers showed symptoms of the virus during their pregnancy, their babies were born with abnormally small brains, a condition known as microcephaly. The CDC recently published a set of working guidelines for pregnant women traveling to areas where local transmission is happening, which include monitoring themselves and their unborn children.

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A baby born with microcephaly.

The CDC and other government organizations are working to determine whether this link is a causal relationship or whether the birth defects are caused by something else. It's proving difficult because babies recently born with microcephaly may have been infected with the virus a while ago. Government agencies including the CDC are working to develop better ways to diagnose the virus in people who are no longer presenting Zika symptoms.

No local transmission of the virus has been documented in the US yet - so far it has been diagnosed only in people who have recently traveled to Zika hot spots.

The CDC anticipates that local transmission will happen, but thinks it will resemble previous outbreaks of dengue and chikungunya, which have been relatively contained within southeastern US states.


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Feb 12, 2014
9 Insane Conspiracy Theories About The Illuminati And The Music Industry

As the Internet so wonderfully portrays, the Illuminati and the music industry go hand in hand like some sort of twisted pop duo. It’s inevitable: the Illuminati is associated with huge wealth, power and social status, and it’s undeniable that many popular musicians absolutely fit that bill.

The second is the supposed aim of the Illuminati: to control and influence the world’s population, specifically young people who are at their most impressionable. A strong influence at an early age will keep them brainwashed for a long time to come.

These two reasons combine, then, to make the music industry an absolute hotbed for Illuminati conspiracy theories. It doesn’t help that the industry can be so fickle, too, generating overnight successes and branding certain artists irrelevant in the same amount of time.

So from blood sacrifice to the invention of an entire genre, here are the most insane conspiracy theories about the Illuminati and the music industry.

9. Jay-Z Is A Member Of The Illuminati

When it comes to music-based Illuminati conspiracy theories, this is easily one of the most famous. The theory goes that hip-hop musician Jay-Z is a massive part of the shady organisation, using his power and contacts to make or break other musicians. It’s no secret that Jay-Z has played a massive part in many musical successes, owing largely to the fact he used to be president of Def Jam Recordings and is one of the co-founders of Roc-A-Fella Records. An endorsement from Jay-Z is enough to change a musician’s life.

Proof of Jay-Z’s association with the Illuminati includes his signature “diamond cutter” hand gesture which appears to form a pyramid shape (which in turn resembles the Illuminati’s All-Seeing Eye) and the crazy amount of symbolism in his 2009 music video for On To The Next One.

There’s also the matter of a photo that was unearthed from 1939, which depicts a man bearing a striking resemblance to the musician. This has led several theorists to postulate that Jay-Z has been granted time travelling abilities by the organization, because, you know, that makes sense.

8. Ke$ha Was Forced By The Illuminati Against Her Will To Release Die Young

When it first released in 2012, Ke$ha’s Die Young was hugely successful, but it also spurred a huge amount of controversy. For a start, it was pulled from many radio stations in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, as the repeated proclamation “we’re gonna die young” was deemed distasteful and inappropriate.

But that’s far from the most curious bit. The music video for the song sees Ke$ha playing the role of a cult leader, engaging in various sexual activities. Throughout the video there is a massive amount of occult imagery including the all-seeing eye, inverted crosses, pentagrams and pyramids.

This, of course, prompted accusations of the song being a direct product of the Illuminati, and what’s interesting is that Ke$ha responded to the song’s criticism, claiming that she was “forced” to sing it. What this truly means is anybody’s guess, but many took it as confirmation of shadier goings on.

7. Rihanna’s New Album Is A Massive Illuminati Statement

Up until the sudden release of 2016’s Anti, Rihanna hadn’t released an album in four years. While most would call this a career break, there are those who believe the hiatus was infinitely more sinister. Of course, the foundation of this rumour is that Rihanna is part of the Illuminati, but that’s not the fascinating bit. What’s curious is the intensity with which she’s supposedly brain-washing the world through her music

In general, Rihanna’s lyrics promote an indulgent lifestyle, from partying to drinking to taking drugs. Illuminati conspiracy theorists would have you believe that alcohol and drug use are used by the organisation for control, so promoting those things through song is pretty obviously in line with their goals. There’s also the fact that Rihanna’s break-out hit Umbrella featured Jay-Z. Coincidence?

According to theorists, Anti is Rihanna’s greatest piece of Illuminati propaganda yet. I mean, have you seen the cover art, detailing a young child with a suspicious crown? The art is supposed to represent how blind society is to the truth from a very young age.

6. Madonna Has Knowledge Of The Illuminati’s History

There are all sorts of accusations regarding occult symbolism in music videos and live shows, but in 2014 Madonna went a step further, releasing a song titled Illuminati. The song is from the album Rebel Heart, and according to the singer herself in an interview with Rolling Stone, it’s not an admission of her involvement. In fact, Madonna claims that despite the many accusations over the years, she has never been part of the organisation, but she does hold a deep knowledge of its membership and history, and where the word actually originated.

Theorists are divided. Some claim Madonna wants to be part of the organisation and is bitter that she’s never been inducted. Others say the whole thing is a double bluff and that she’s trying to delegitimize accusations.

Whatever the truth, one thing remains clear: Madonna still isn’t relevant these days.

5. The Illuminati Killed Michael Jackson

What is it about the death of a popular figure that makes society search for some sort of concealed “truth”? Perhaps it’s a merely a coping mechanism. Whatever the reason, though, Michael Jackson is another musician whose death generated a conspiracy theory. Specifically, many believe that Jackson was a member of the Illuminati, and that they ultimately decided to murder him.

Why? Well, the cover for 1991’s Dangerous contains a massive array of colourful images, many of which could be described as occult, including mysterious creatures decked out like royalty, a suspicious-looking eye and a doorway into some sort of underground city (in the centre of which the earth sits). This is supposedly meant to represent Jackson “looking through” the organisation, as his eyes can be seen staring from behind.

It’s believed that Jackson wanted to leave the organization, and so the Illuminati fabricated the child molestation accusations in order to try and stifle and discredit him, a show of their immense power. Nevertheless Jackson continued his attempt, and was ultimately murdered for fear of what he might tell the media.

Who comes up with this stuff?

4. Eminem Is Actively Attempting To Defy The Illuminati

The belief that the Illuminati controls the mainstream music industry isn’t uncommon, and it therefore implies that many of the world’s most famous stars have had run ins with the organisation. Theorists claim these rarely reach the public because the musicians in question fear what it might do to their career, but many attempt to drop hints and clues to warn the world at large.

One such person is rapper Eminem, who has apparently been courted by the organisation many times but continues to try and defy them. Specifically, there are entire YouTube videos dedicated to the lead single from his 2010 album Recovery. Not Afraid features the opening lyrics “I’m not afraid to take a stand, everybody come take my hand”.

If you thought Eminem was talking about taking a stand against narcotics, you’d apparently be wrong. Recovery is actually about constant Illuminati interference. Supposedly they are the reason for Eminem’s incredibly lukewarm Relapse and struggle for legitimacy following Encore.

Theorists also pinpoint the lyrics “I’m standing up, I’ma face my demons”. Because demons totally means “all-seeing organisation”, not drugs and alcohol.

3. The Illuminati Gave Beyonce The Power To Clone Herself

I suppose it makes sense that the Illuminati would run in the family. It’s not as if Beyonce – who is married to Jay-Z – would just sit out on all of the super secret meetings. Besides, it’s no coincidence that Beyonce is considered one of the most powerful black women in the music industry. You didn’t think she achieved all of that through hard work and talent now, did you?

That Beyonce is part of the Illuminati is a fairly vanilla conspiracy theory when compared to some of its more specific details. According to many overzealous theorists (and supposedly an industry “insider”), Beyonce displayed her Illuminati-given powers during her 2013 Super Bowl performance.

The performance saw Beyonce appear to break apart into multiple versions of herself, each performing a hypnotic dance. Not only that, but it also featured a brief flash of the iconic pyramid eye, as if to proudly say: “look at me, I’m Beyonce, I’m part of the Illuminati and they’ve given me cloning abilities”.

At least, that’s what many theorists believe, anyway.


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Feb 12, 2014
2. Singer Aaliyah Was An Illuminati Blood Sacrifice

In order for Beyonce to clone herself, she first had to become a member of the elusive organisation. If anything this conspiracy shows just how “deep” this whole thing goes for some people – Illuminati conspiracy theories have a more intricate lore than the works of J.R.R Tolkien.

Aaliyah was an American singer who released three albums over the course of her brief career, finding success with songs like Try Again and Rock The Boat. She tragically died in a plane crash in August 2001 having just filmed the music video for Rock The Boat, along with eight other people.

According to theorists, Aaliyah’s death is inextricably linked with Beyonce’s solo success. It is apparently no coincidence that R&B girl group Destiny’s Child announced a hiatus not long after Aaliyah died, followed by the release of Beyonce’s first studio album. Supposedly Aaliyah acted as a “blood sacrifice” for the organisation, which requires such ceremonies as a show of loyalty.

Insulting to the memory of a talented musician or super shady truth? You be the judge.

1. The Illuminati Invented Rap Music To Fill Up Prisons

In terms of enacting control, the prison system is one of the world’s most successful examples. Basically every country in the world that has some sort of government also has some sort of prison system; it’s the reason why the vast majority of society don’t commit crimes. Fear of incarceration is a very real thing.

It would make sense, then, that if the Illuminati were out there somewhere vying for control (or enacting control) over the world that it would heavily incorporate the prison system. Indeed, according to one notable conspiracy theory, the Illuminati – along with the co-operation of many prominent record labels and billionaires – decided to popularise a form of music specifically designed to lead to frequent incarceration.

The music was rap, a genre that is strongly associated with gang lifestyles and lyrics about violence, drug use and criminality. By making this kind of life seem sensational and system-defying, it would trick many listeners into engaging in criminal activity, allowing the prison system to be filled (providing it with legitimacy) and causing fear in others.

So next time you listen to some Kendrick Lamar, remember… that’s exactly what the Illuminati wants you to do.

Which other Illuminati conspiracy theories about music belong on this list? Share your finds and favourites below in the comments thread.

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Playboy's first model Marilyn Monroe was narco-hypnotized to pose nude = my conspiracy theory (since a hypnotic drug Chloral Hydrate was found in her blood) :biggrin2: Anna Nicole Smith another PB model was said to have Chloral Hydrate in her blood at death.

Candy Jones is a famous case !

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If anybody calls moon landing fake then Moon Probes launched by other countries have already observed and approved the marks of Apollo on Moon Surface.


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The pics are not helping, seriously.
No need to post them, takes time to load.

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