Relax, man!Where is the news of Comac FAA and EASA certifications... oh that's right, Comac aircraft have no safety certificate.
About the only safety certificate they can get outside of China is the one issued by the Congo.Relax, man!
As far as it's a clone of A-320NEO, it will be certified relatively easy
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Where is the news of Comac FAA and EASA certifications... oh that's right, Comac aircraft have no safety certificate.
You know what they say about sour grapes my Indian friend...About the only safety certificate they can get outside of China is the one issued by the Congo.
They have had that same agreement since 1995 which gets renewed every 10 years, it is called BASA. If you can't pass the test you don't get certified, they aren't lowering their standards, they are duping you into selling more planes to China as CAAC can no longer ban foreign aviation products at will.You know what they say about sour grapes my Indian friend...
However slowly it happens, recent developments show that Chinese current and future airliners will achieve FAA and EASA certification. I'll be sure to bring up this post when either one happens.
If US and EU lawmakers want Boeing/Airbus access to the largest aviation market in the world, ie China, they can hardly deny safety certification for Chinese airliners in their own air-space.
You're not the most objective judge in this case my Indian friend. Your envy and prejudice of any Chinese development tends to cloud your thoughts.
Yes, the FAA has CAAC "duped" and only the Indian "Chini expert" has the intelligence to see it.They have had that same agreement since 1995 which gets renewed every 10 years, it is called BASA. If you can't pass the test you don't get certified, they aren't lowering their standards, they are duping you into selling more planes to China as CAAC can no longer ban foreign aviation products at will.
The C919 already has 730 orders from 37 customers. After CASA certification, that number will rise considerably. FAA and EASA certification will take that number higher still.The Implementation Procedures for Airworthiness (IPA) document allows each authority to leverage approvals completed by the other with respect to design, production, and airworthiness as well as continued airworthiness. The agreement uses the compatibilities of the two authorities’ certification systems and fulfills the commitment that the U.S. and China made in 2005 with the establishment of a BASA. This IPA also allows both the FAA and the CAAC to submit applications for validation for all categories of aviation products and addresses globalization challenges such as complex business models separating design and production.
All in China duhr, and can't fly anywhere but the Congo.Yes, the FAA has CAAC "duped" and only the Indian "Chini expert" has the intelligence to see it.
The IPA document was signed last month. It was never included in the BASA agreement before last month's signing.
The C919 already has 730 orders from 37 customers. After CASA certification, that number will rise considerably. FAA and EASA certification will take that number higher still.
China's COMAC says signs 130 orders for C919 passenger jet
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...0-orders-for-c919-passenger-jet-idUSKCN1BU17V
You will be preaching doom and gloom for this aircraft till you turn blue in the face mate. Go troll somewhere else...
*shrugs* 730 orders is still 730 orders. China has a huge aviation market, why not use it to support local airliners?All in China duhr, and can't fly anywhere but the Congo.
But they are leasing companies who put down 10% and send them back to Comac, it is like ride sharing bicycles that fill up Chinese junk yards.*shrugs* 730 orders is still 730 orders. China has a huge aviation market, why not use it to support local airliners?
The C919 like the Boeing 737 or AirBus's A320 is a short-medium range commercial jet-liner. Mainland China and greater Asia are good enough.
When it eventually does get FAA and EASA certification, i'll remind you of another one of your predictions gone down the toilet.
this man has no credibility.They have had that same agreement since 1995 which gets renewed every 10 years, it is called BASA. If you can't pass the test you don't get certified, they aren't lowering their standards, they are duping you into selling more planes to China as CAAC can no longer ban foreign aviation products at will.
we don't have to worry about the business model. the only key here is that if Comac is capable of manufacturing planes that meets the basic standards of civilian aviation. We will make Comac commercially successful as long as it makes good planes the same way we make CRRC a success.But they are leasing companies who put down 10% and send them back to Comac, it is like ride sharing bicycles that fill up Chinese junk yards.
Phuleez son... Your 10% BS aside... Those very same leasing companies have been going to Boeing and Airbus for the short-medium haul needs. Now they're putting in orders for a locally designed and built airliner.But they are leasing companies who put down 10% and send them back to Comac, it is like ride sharing bicycles that fill up Chinese junk yards.
Bicycle ride sharing is a boon to Chinese bike factories but turns into a loss as people treat them as junk. Ghost cities are a boon to Chinese construction companies but fall apart before anyone moves in. A bunch of leased planes that are more costly to operate than its competitors is a boon to Chinese aviation but is a long term loss to the companies who operate them and will dump them when the cost benefit is no longer there. Hence why they are only leasing them. The C919 is going to be 10% more expensive to operate than its current rivals and 20% more expensive than the Clean Sky initiative coming from Airbus. When you operate an aircraft for 30-40 years, those are some big numbers.Phuleez son... Your 10% BS aside... Those very same leasing companies have been going to Boeing and Airbus for the short-medium haul needs. Now they're putting in orders for a locally designed and built airliner.
Either way you try to twist it to soothe your jealous pride, the C919 and other present and future COMAC airliners are boon to the Chinese economy and industrial base.
No substance and the same old BS. Pulling figures out of your ass again?Bicycle ride sharing is a boon to Chinese bike factories but turns into a loss as people treat them as junk. Ghost cities are a boon to Chinese construction companies but fall apart before anyone moves in. A bunch of leased planes that are more costly to operate than its competitors is a boon to Chinese aviation but is a long term loss to the companies who operate them and will dump them when the cost benefit is no longer there. Hence why they are only leasing them. The C919 is going to be 10% more expensive to operate than its current rivals and 20% more expensive than the Clean Sky initiative coming from Airbus. When you operate an aircraft for 30-40 years, those are some big numbers.
Ryan Air have only expressed interest in a 199-seat variant of the C919, but have thus far not made any kind of binding commitment to that effect.@J20! is it true that Rayan Air is a consultant on the project anyway best of luck with the project may you guys get more orders
Six years ago the Irish carrier signed a Memorandum of Understanding with the state-owned manufacturer to “participate in discussion on the development” of the C919, designed to carry 160 passengers, and has this week said it remains keen on following the prospect of the aircraft.
http://www.independent.co.uk/travel...eastern-ryanair-budget-airlines-a7723486.htmlRyanair chief executive Michael O’Leary has previously said that he welcomed an alternative to Boeing and Airbus, adding he was “seriously interested in the development of a 200 seat variant”.
I honestly think Ryan-Air's comments about their interest in assisting COMAC isn't anything substantial but just a negotiating tactic to strengthen their hand in negotiations with Boeing. They operate an exclusively 737 fleet and have recently put in another order for a 100 more.At the time, Ryanair’s chief executive, Michael O’Leary said; “We are pleased that there is now a real alternative to Boeing and Airbus, and we are seriously interested in the development of a 200 seat variant of the C919 aircraft, and we look forward to its introduction into commercial service from 2018 onwards.