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Maybe you're an expert in your profession, but do not talk nonsense. I am embarrassed by your obsequiousness to the Russian propaganda.
Facts are bitches my ignorant lesser-minded friend :)
Ukraine requires to destroy only 50 targets to die as a state and at least some force :)
Then you establish "mobile no-flight zone" with heavy fighters and take what you want using airborn units to ciese control on key points and installations.
It's war classics, not propaganda :)
Now I see you have wasted your cadet years for nothing if you don't know these basics.
 

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You give emotional answers. India gave up huge land to Pakistan in 1947. India did not try to win back that land.

If Donbas does not want to live under Kiev's rule, there are only two options:

1. Force it, which requires huge resources
2. Give it up

You forget that India spends 15% of defence budget to keep grip on Kashmir. This is huge waste.

Remember if you up the game, Russia will respond in kind. Can you sustain it.
In any region of the planet can hold fake elections and separate. In Kievan Rus ' there was a time when every Prince had their own state. The same period was in India. As a result - we've been invaded by the Mongols, India- British.Not illegal to impose opinions. There are different periods in the life of the country Agrees, it will be necessary to spend a large portion of our military budget, until the Russian will not be able to contain these pseudo-Republic
 

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Facts are bitches my ignorant lesser-minded friend :)
Ukraine requires to destroy only 50 targets to die as a state and at least some force :)
Then you establish "mobile no-flight zone" with heavy fighters and take what you want using airborn units to ciese control on key points and installations.
It's war classics, not propaganda :)
Now I see you have wasted your cadet years for nothing if you don't know these basics.
Only an Amateur can see war with Ukraine is a cakewalk.
The Azerbaijani army is much better otamendi the Armenian contingent, which is based in Nagorno-Karabakh, but was able to release only a small area.
 
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Since when there is a separate allocation for the defense of Kashmir or any other state in Defense Budget ?

In Chinese Defense budget there is separate allocation for internal security not in Indian budget.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/india/budget.htm

This is the basic allocations in Indian Defense Budget

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I just gave an estimated figure based on number of troops in Kashmir. It was to make a point to @Akim.

Please do not make it an issue.
 

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Facts are bitches my ignorant lesser-minded friend :)
Ukraine requires to destroy only 50 targets to die as a state and at least some force :)
Then you establish "mobile no-flight zone" with heavy fighters and take what you want using airborn units to ciese control on key points and installations.
It's war classics, not propaganda :)
Now I see you have wasted your cadet years for nothing if you don't know these basics.
@gadeshi are you Russian or Ukrainian ?

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Only an Amateur can see war with Ukraine is a cakewalk.
It will be a cakewalk if Ukraine keeps on going down as it is doing now.

You have two options -
1. Get massive amount of weapons from USA and/or ask USA to fight on your behalf.
2. Forget about Donbas.

If you continue this low level fight, you will keep on bleeding. Donbas is sideshow for Russia, but for you, it is the center. It will consume all your State resources. In three more years, your debt will cross 100B. Just the interest payment will kill you.
 

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@gadeshi are you Russian or Ukrainian ?
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There are no "ukrainians" existed in nature prior to 1891 when Austro-Hungarian cancelary has invented them :)
Ukrainian flag has been created by Emperor's France Joseph wife princess Sissi and presened to Austrian-owned Russian Gallician aristocraty as a present for active help in crushing Polish elites riots.
"Ukrainian language" was created by Nikolay Kuleshov (Mikola Kulish :) ) as a tool to simplify peasants elementary education. When Kulish has realised the real goal of Austrians who started to populate it, he has forbidden to use it, but was ignored :) The real literaturical standard of the language was established by Soviet ProLitCult ministry in 1926.
Ukraine has became a real state only in USSR in 1919 as USSR (Ukrainian Soviet Socialistic Republic).
So I'm Russian, as @Akim and the rest of "ukrainians" and "belorussians".
 
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Only an Amateur can see war with Ukraine is a cakewalk.
The Azerbaijani army is much better otamendi the Armenian contingent, which is based in Nagorno-Karabakh, but was able to release only a small area.
Dude, it will be a cakewalk for ANY REAL ARMY.
What the problem is to crush disorganized, poorly fed, poorly armed bunch of tramps who have no real army structure, no backing infrastructure, no reconaisence, no Navy, no Air Force, no AD/BMD, no army control structure even on tactical level?
Those force-conscripted tramps will not even realize what has killed them when it flies :)
 

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In any region of the planet can hold fake elections and separate. In Kievan Rus ' there was a time when every Prince had their own state. The same period was in India. As a result - we've been invaded by the Mongols, India- British.Not illegal to impose opinions. There are different periods in the life of the country Agrees, it will be necessary to spend a large portion of our military budget, until the Russian will not be able to contain these pseudo-Republic
Yeah, especially if the budget is foggy and you can ravage it without control :)
 

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It will be a cakewalk if Ukraine keeps on going down as it is doing now.

You have two options -
1. Get massive amount of weapons from USA and/or ask USA to fight on your behalf.
2. Forget about Donbas.

If you continue this low level fight, you will keep on bleeding. Donbas is sideshow for Russia, but for you, it is the center. It will consume all your State resources. In three more years, your debt will cross 100B. Just the interest payment will kill you.
Weapons will be enough. In Ukraine the vast Soviet reserves. Lacked precision weapons, radar, optics, radio. In the initial period of the war. The situation is gradually corrected.
Dude, it will be a cakewalk for ANY REAL ARMY.
What the problem is to crush disorganized, poorly fed, poorly armed bunch of tramps who have no real army structure, no backing infrastructure, no reconaisence, no Navy, no Air Force, no AD/BMD, no army control structure even on tactical level?
Those force-conscripted tramps will not even realize what has killed them when it flies :)
In free part of Ukraine pretty strong air force and advanced air defense. The result is well visible on the Russian-Georgian war. This is a blatant lie that the army is hungry mi ragged. The army is well supplied, including medicine.About fleet - I agree.
 
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Weapons will be enough. In Ukraine the vast Soviet reserves. Lacked precision weapons, radar, optics, radio. In the initial period of the war. The situation is gradually corrected.
You are complete moron.
Weapons don't make you an army!!! :) Only the right structure, global recon, global automated forces control and truly controlled military budget do.
But they will never appear in Ukraine :)
 

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You are complete moron.
Weapons don't make you an army!!! :) Only the right structure, global recon, global automated forces control and truly controlled military budget do.
But they will never appear in Ukraine :)
Don't disgrace yourself, if you do not know.
 

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In free part of Ukraine pretty strong air force and advanced air defense. The result is well visible on the Russian-Georgian war. This is a blatant lie that the army is hungry mi ragged. The army is well supplied, including medicine.About fleet - I agree.
Dude, is those 64 aircrafts (36 combat) that are old, without MLU and proper repair you call an air force??? :)
And AD that contain 6 battalions of mammuth crap old, constantly cranking systems without proper service and updates, which have not fired any missile since Tu-154 shot down? Which don't have supplementary forces and equipment (like Gazetchik-M self-defence suits for S-300)? And which crews are completely unprofessional as well :) Yeah, strong AD, what to say :)
A proper supplied army :bplease:
This is not even funny when all the "supplies" are runned by volounteers (which is fucking insufficient), when force-conscripted peasants just starve on polygons and live like animals in dirty tents when there is -25 outdoors? That army whos conscripts don't have even proper uniform?

About AD in Georgian war: those 6 losses of Russian AF were not Ukrainian Buk-M1 favour but a result of that days Army commanders "proficiency" that don't bother with using ECM suits (like Mi-8MTP) to jam them. Georgian AD has been jammed and then destroyed on the 3-rd day after war has started. Mi-8MTP and Su-34 (there were only 4 of them in all the AF that days) have turned Georgian AD into useless crap at once they were used.
But times changaed and Russian army has changed radically after 888 as well.

You are rediculous clawn.
 
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Dude, is those 64 aircrafts (36 combat) that are old, without MLU and proper repair you call an air force??? :)
And AD that contain 6 battalions of mammuth crap old, constantly cranking systems without proper service and updates, which have not fired any missile since Tu-154 shot down? Which don't have supplementary forces and equipment (like Gazetchik-M self-defence suits for S-300)? And which crews are completely unprofessional as well :) Yeah, strong AD, what to say :)
A proper supplied army :bplease:
This is not even funny when all the "supplies" are runned by volounteers (which is fucking insufficient), when force-conscripted peasants just starve on polygons and live like animals in dirty tents when there is -25 outdoors? That army whos conscripts don't have even proper uniform?

You are rediculous clawn.
For all your life you past the army only passed near. The laughter of idiocy you don't need.
 

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For all your life you past the army only passed near. The laughter of idiocy you don't need.
Facts are bitches, dude.
Give us facts, not emotions.
Facts make you a man, emotions make you a phagot.
 
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