Civil war in Ukraine

[soldier of Putin]

Bearing in mind Russia will not be able to manufacture something in the region of 180+ parts for helicopters and planes because of its unprovoked and illegal war in Ukraine, I think your need to find another argument.

We can manufacture any engine, even world class engines used in PAK FA. Ukrainians, on the other hand, cannot manufacture jet engines. Oh, I do assure you, any engine we were importing from Ukraine we can easily replace. Only some engines in helicopters, not Mi-28 and Ka-52 mind you, plus a few ship turbines. Subs wether diesel or nuclear we have the best in the world, improved Kilo and Yasen.

Ukraine cannot make bullets. Their only bullets plant is in Lugansk.

 

[Scalieback]

We can manufacture any engine, even world class engines used in PAK FA. Ukrainians, on the other hand, cannot manufacture jet engines. Oh, I do assure you, any engine we were importing from Ukraine we can easily replace. Only some engines in helicopters, not Mi-28 and Ka-52 mind you, plus a few ship turbines. Subs weather diesel or nuclear we have the best in the world, improved Kilo and Yasen.

Really? This is from one of your own pro puny Putin sites: http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/08/russia-military-equipment-from-ukraine/
Now if you have to replace 50% of your spare parts, that's a hell of a lot of tooling and diversion of resources. Epic FAIL

Yep, we've all seen how well Russian subs perform: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_submarine_Kursk_(K-141) Putin wouldn't allow the west to help and all crew died. As for the rest of the Russian navy, there's a reason why you were trying to buy Mistrals: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/busin...torpedoes-russias-naval-expansion/523012.html

 

[soldier of Putin]

Really? This is from one of your own pro puny Putin sites: http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/08/russia-military-equipment-from-ukraine/
Now if you have to replace 50% of your spare parts, that's a hell of a lot of tooling and diversion of resources. Epic FAIL

Yep, we've all seen how well Russian subs perform: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_submarine_Kursk_(K-141) Putin wouldn't allow the west to help and all crew died. As for the rest of the Russian navy, there's a reason why you were trying to buy Mistrals: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/busin...torpedoes-russias-naval-expansion/523012.html

Russia does not need to import anything. Russia has the best military technology in the world. Su-35, Su-34, Tu-160, Mi-28N, Ka-52, A-50U, A-100, AK-12, T-14, Yasen, Borei, improved Kilo, Il-76.

http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2015/1/23/2867/

 

[soldier of Putin]

Ratnik got combat tested in eastern Ukraine. The results? NAF casualty dropped by 99%.

 

[Scalieback]

Speaking of Ratnik. A number of these suits have been supplied to NAF and since then their casualty have been quite a minimum.

Stop editing your posts, it's like trying to teach a five your old the off side rule. Re body armour read this

Thought you said no Russian soldiers or rebels could be hurt by the Ukrainians because of your iron man suits aka Ratnik body armour? In the real world, casualties happen:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratnik_(program) and that is very heavy body armour

 

[Scalieback]

Ratnik got combat tested in eastern Ukraine. The results? NAF casualty dropped by 99%.

99%? Source? Where did you read that?

 

[Scalieback]

Russia does not need to import anything. Russia has the best military technology in the world. Su-35, Su-34, Tu-160, Mi-28N, Ka-52, A-50U, A-100, AK-12, T-14, Yasen, Borei, improved Kilo, Il-76.

http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2015/1/23/2867/

OMFG, you really are a child. Is this you?

 

[soldier of Putin]

The fact of the matter is, NAF soldiers have way better equipment than Ukrainian soldiers do. NAF recently received PSNR-8M portable recon radars and Eleron-3SV portable recon drones, giving them a distinct edge over their Ukrainian foes.

https://en.informnapalm.org/russian...ion-in-the-arsenal-of-separatists-of-the-dpr/

 

[Scalieback]

The fact of the matter is, NAF soldiers have way better equipment than Ukrainian soldiers do. NAF recently received PSNR-8M portable recon radars and Eleron-3SV portable recon drones, giving them a distinct edge over their Ukrainian foes.

https://en.informnapalm.org/russian...ion-in-the-arsenal-of-separatists-of-the-dpr/

When are you going to stop posting propaganda and post like an adult?

Have a serious debate if you like but all you're showing is that 'Russia great' Ukraine bad' West evil' propaganda bull is boring and dull.

Tell me why you think Russia should have annexed Crimea. Please use facts from reputable sources and not the standard Russian propaganda outlets eg RT, Sputnik, Global Research etc. As soon as you mention 'Washington puppets' or 'NATO bases in Crimea' I will call you on it repeatedly as it's frankly rubbish.

Until then, you post like a child, you'll be called a child and frankly I hope the Ukrainians spank you and puny Putin, which they've already proved capable of repeatedly. Night night

Edit: Have some decency and clearly make your edits noticeable

 

[soldier of Putin]

Tell me why you think Russia should have annexed Crimea.

Crimea was illegally transferred in 1954 outside the power of the general secretary since no ratification ever occurred. Russia never recognized Crimea as Ukrainian territory.

I hope the Ukrainians spank you and puny Putin

Good luck with that . These days, technology wins war. Look what Saudi Arabia and UAE do to Yemen. Russia is high tech. Ukraine is low tech.

 

[Scalieback]

Crimea was illegally transferred in 1954 outside the power of the general secretary since no ratification ever occurred. Russia never recognized Crimea as Ukrainian territory.

Yes it did, Budapest memorandum. Next

BTW, Turkey under the Ottoman's has more right to the Crimea than Russia but don't let history get in the way

Also, if you say that wasn't Russia then you should remove yourselves from the security council

 

[soldier of Putin]

Yes it did, Budapest memorandum. Next

BTW, Turkey under the Ottoman's has more right to the Crimea than Russia but don't let history get in the way

We signed a piece of paper. We can rip that paper. Hitler ripped the Versailles treaty.

 

[Scalieback]

We signed a piece of paper. We can rip that paper. Hitler ripped the Versailles treaty.

So might is right then? All rules can be broken?

Edit: Putin's already been compared with Hitler, so no news there

 

[soldier of Putin]

So might is right then? All rules can be broken?

Edit: Putin's already been compared with Hitler, so no news there

Agreed. These days any country can invade another country. UN don't care.

 

[soldier of Putin]

US Congress votes to ban aid to Nazi Azov battalion. Doubt it'll work though.

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-06-12/ukraine-s-neo-nazis-won-t-get-u-s-money

 

[Scalieback]

Agreed. These days any country can invade another country. UN don't care.

Only because Russia and China are on the security council. Shows a lot though on that last vote about MH17 though. Only one veto, from Russia. Speaks volumes, particularly as China abstained.

BTW, Hitler was a chancellor of Germany. It's not like he was a nobody.

Yep, unlike Putin who was elected. Oh, so was Hitler.

You definitely must be a child using those emoticons.

BTW, watch your back with China. They play the long game and you're already losing on that economic front

 

[soldier of Putin]

Yep, unlike Putin who was elected. Oh, so was Hitler.

Putin was elected. Hitler was not. Hitler was appointed.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/adolf-hitler-is-named-chancellor-of-germany

 

[Scalieback]

US Congress votes to ban aid to Nazi Azov battalion. Doubt it'll work though.

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-06-12/ukraine-s-neo-nazis-won-t-get-u-s-money

Good god, a lucid post from the fan boy. I doubt it will work either.

 

[soldier of Putin]

BTW, watch your back with China. They play the long game and you're already losing on that economic front

Economy schmocomy. Russia has higher per capita wealth than any other country in the world. Russia has high technology, like the US, unlike Saudi Arabia which only has oil. We are not bothered by China. We have nukes. Oh, something Ukraine doesn't have. Sucker!

 

[Scalieback]

Putin was elected. Hitler was not. Hitler was appointed.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/adolf-hitler-is-named-chancellor-of-germany

Nope, voted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_rise_to_power#Chancellor_to_dictator

The Nazi party lost 35 seats in the November 1932 election, but remained the Reichstag's largest party, with 196 seats (33.09%). The Social Democrats (SPD) won 121 seats (20.43%) and the Communists (KPD) won 100 (16.86%).

- like many majority Govts