There seems to be a number of sources (from both sides) now confirming what everyone long suspected: that it was just a matter of time before the NAF closed the Debaltsevo Cauldron. An LPR commander claims:
The militia has fully encircled Debaltsevo. Road to Artemovsk is under Novorossia control. It is impossible to travel on it, we are about to put up roadblocks. Ukrainian forces will attempt to break out, but they have relatively few forces left, they have problems with ammunition and food. The annihilation of the Debaltsevo pocket will occur in the near future.
Compare this report to an urgent plea from Rada Deputy Taras Pastukh, who is currently participating in the fighting at Debaltsevo:
"Greetings from the still-Ukrainian Debaltsevo. We just repelled an attack on our base camp. Earlier it could barely be reached by artillery, but today enemy infantry had arrived. The National Guard had left the city, thus leaving us open to attack. All blocking positions report constant shelling and tank attacks. We never received any reinforcement. It went to the CTO zone, but never went where it was needed."
"We are being abandoned here, while at the same time others are simply running away," he added.
He also asked the country's leaders for support.
"I ask for your help. Tell everyone you can about the critical situation here. Maybe someone got the idea I was excessively panicked, because the President had said that he had everything under control. Unfortunately, I was only wrong about the time, because I could not believe they would come at us with such force, while we continued to hope to abide by the Minsk Agreement and discuss whether a martial law is needed," noted the deputy.
In his words, "this is genuine betrayal of the country by the entire military command, including our so-called 'president'."
TASS is also reporting that Ukrainian troops in Debaltsevo are now completely cut off from reinforcements. Even The Los Angeles Times is relaying rebel claims that 8,000-10,000 Ukrainian troops are now trapped and can't escape without surrendering.
Poland has developed quite well with EU. Starting point was the same with Ukraine after fall of SUThe hardest thing is to prove the obvious.
Like economic growth for Ukraine was possible only in cooperation with Russia, development of joint hi-tech projects, common market, etc.
Like Russia was ready to invest billions of dollars in Ukraine, has offered discounts on gas and preferential credits.
Like the association with EU leads most of Ukrainian industry to bankruptcy.
Like the word "Independence" has more readings than "Independence from Russia".
Never. You are mistaking. I repeat - NO ONE OF THE EU POLITICIANS HAS EVER OFFERED UKRAINE TO JOIN EU. And no one called the association an entry point. Ukrainians were fooled by thinking so.
Russia should open up to EU, and Russia's efforts to open up to EU are blocked by EU building walls. EU is in its third recession, and oil prices are beginning to slowly climb up.
Source: ÐÐ»ÑŒ ÐœÑŽÑ€Ð¸Ð´ - Ð—Ð°ÑÐ²Ð»ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ðµ Ð—Ð°Ñ…Ð°Ñ€Ñ‡ÐµÐ½ÐºÐ¾In fact, these assumptions are absolutely groundless. And it is not in some "insider", which are so fond of trumps, rolling his eyes languidly Vgoru. The position of Russia: Russian troops in the Donbas not automatically exclude any offensive actions of the Russian troops. Even under the guise of militia. Actually, the old situation where "vacationers" were forced to intervene in the disaster took place, but did not go further demarcation line, which was announced by the Minsk collusion, has the same perfectly rational explanation. Inability to legalize the presence of Russian troops on the territory of the conflict deprives them of the ability to apply all the techniques and weapons that are available in the Russian army: Aviation, Missiles, modern tanks, air defense, electronic warfare, and so on. In this situation, the war is translated in a very disadvantageous format in which the Russian military can not use all of their real benefits and bear absolutely unjustified losses. In general, the loss of summer vacationers are primarily associated with it, although elements of traditional military mess and inconsistency makes its contribution.
I personally prefer that this war spread into Europe, and not into Russia. Foreign powers have tried to be pricks with Russia many times in the past. How did it work out for them - the Swedes, the French, the Germans? History bears testimony to that.Alexey Zoteev - Cassad.net
Another ceasefire in Donbass for the first time in many months is without the artillery cannonade. Peaceful cities again became peaceful. Machine gun bursts and single shots from small arms don't count. Ukrainian troops folded their heavy rocket artillery and doing a rotation. Battered units of UAF are being replaced by fresh troops. This is where the fun begins.
One of my friends got a call from a friend living in a prosperous European country and hysterically reported that the husband of her relative, a soldier of one of the divisions of NATO, was sent to Ukraine, changed into Ukrainian uniform and delivered to the location of Donetsk airport. She also reported that according to this soldier, almost all who, under the pretext of rotation, comes to the airport - are Europeans and Americans. NATO troops are taking this strategic object under their control.
Also, during the conversation, the reason for the closure of the three largest airports of Ukraine - Zaporozhzhye, Kharkov and Dnepropetrovsk became clear. NATO transport aircraft landed on the runways of these airports, and unloaded military equipment, military units and ammunition. Confirmation of the delivery to Eastern Ukraine of "help" from NATO I also received from other sources - local residents in these cities confirmed that they had seen European and American equipment on the territory of the flight terminals. NATO began a soft invasion of Donbass. Dressed in Ukrainian uniform European and American military are taking up key positions on the front lines.
What can all this mean? Why should a party which is interested in a ceasefire remove their own units and replace them with soldiers, whose birthplace is far away from this place? It is not difficult to answer this question. To speculate that the well-trained fighters of NATO will be able to more efficiently contain the onslaught of the militia is stupid, because the advantage in manpower, equipment and supplies is clearly on the side of the units of the Ukrainian armed forces. Accordingly, NATO units, taking the leading positions, have a different task. In my opinion, it is these men who will provoke a conflict, which in the future is destined to grow into a full-scale military operation involving NATO troops. The desire to drag Russia into a global war may very soon bring terrible results. A war with participation of Russian troops and NATO troops very quickly may step outside Ukraine's boundaries and continue either in Russia or the European Union. This course of events, is good only for one country - USA. Mainland power will gladly engage in a global conflict, provided that it takes place on another continent and does not threaten the infrastructure of America. Separated by an ocean, America will avoid ground operations and the maximum that she faces are single air and missile strikes, which the missile defense system is able to cope with. Europe and Russia will suffer more - ground operation will inevitably lead to the destruction of settlements and partial disruption of communications and infrastructure. The question of the start date of WWIII, which will draw into its millstones most countries of our planet is decided today in Donbass, and in particular on the territory of Donetsk airport terminal . And it will be started by those NATO soldiers, which were changed into the Ukrainian uniform and sent to the positions in far away Donetsk.
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Yeah, those are all peace loving prosperous countries. How about India? Russia helped you back in the hippie seventies, how about returning the favor. I bet NATO would think twice if there were few gurkha regiments in Debaltshejeve, any sight of Turban would definately scare the Ukro-Nazis...I personally prefer that this war spread into Europe, and not into Russia. Foreign powers have tried to be pricks with Russia many times in the past. How did it work out for them - the Swedes, the French, the Germans? History bears testimony to that.
No, I don't agree with your claim that Russia is building walls.Glad you agree, then both should start find ways to get back to co op.
Who is expanding? NATO or Russia?
You are confused.Yeah, those are all peace loving prosperous countries. How about India? Russia helped you back in the hippie seventies, how about returning the favor. I bet NATO would think twice if there were few gurkha regiments in Debaltshejeve, any sight of Turban would definately scare the Ukro-Nazis...
We are going in circles, lets just say that Ukrainian leaders have a tough choise: get closer to Germany who has HDI 10 or Russia who has HDI 80... And dropping...if they do not change their policies.No, I don't agree with your claim that Russia is building walls.
Who is expanding? NATO or Russia?
Who is building military bases closer to the other? NATO or Russia?
Who started economic blockade? NATO countries, or Russia?
This has been happening for last twenty years. Did you pay attention to that? TWENTY YEARS.
So, who is building the wall?
Ukrainians indeed have a tough choice. Let me list them out for you:We are going in circles, lets just say that Ukrainian leaders have a tough choise: get closer to Germany who has HDI 10 or Russia who has HDI 80... And dropping...if they do not change their policies.
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