Civil war in Ukraine

[Ray]

It would be interesting to know, what Russia has to back up these new confrontation with west. It cannot win military or economic war? Now it is alienating herself from Europe and US. China will use Russia's dire situation to its benefit, not be "an ally". Who will be a friend of Russia in Europe when this crisis is over? This is one crazy conflict, actually I can think only one other European leader who was ready to gamble like Putin is gambling...

The crisis will never be over since it suits the geostrategic equation as you have so succinctly stated that Russia is not on top of the world militarily or economically.

 

[arpakola]

Beautiful girl, congrats!

agree congrats too
but for safety reasons .. i guess is better to take off the foto from the net..

 

[arpakola]

"Defeated Ukrainian punitive position under the sand. Even deep caponiers not save punitive technique of jewelry work artillery brigade" Kalmius. "

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wonder if they have Krasnopol munitions in their posetion

 

[sgarg]

@jouni, the USA and Europe that you define is not going to stay that way. Europe will soon fray. Europe is not a single political entity. The European Union does not have qualities of a State. European Union has qualities of a federation but its collective security policy is weak.

The very fact that USA forces are dominant in security structures of EU shows that EU is not ready to take responsibility for its own security.

Somebody has to call EU's bluff. Let it be Russia.

Political alliances do not stay the same forever. A lot of people come forward to join the victor.

 

[sgarg]

wonder if they have Krasnopol munitions in their posetion

Nope, these are smart mortar shells.

 

[sgarg]

Ukrainians are using incendiary weapons in great quantities as per reports, against built up areas. It is interesting that the Western backers are quite on that fact.

How can anybody trust the West, when Kiev is clearly adopting Nazi tactics.

 

[pmaitra]

@jouni, the USA and Europe that you define is not going to stay that way. Europe will soon fray. Europe is not a single political entity. The European Union does not have qualities of a State. European Union has qualities of a federation but its collective security policy is weak.

The very fact that USA forces are dominant in security structures of EU shows that EU is not ready to take responsibility for its own security.

Somebody has to call EU's bluff. Let it be Russia.

Political alliances do not stay the same forever. A lot of people come forward to join the victor.

Russia will take a decisive step very soon. The time is not ripe yet. The EU's biggest Achilles Heel will be its lack of neutrality. I can see sings of fragmentation in the EU/NATO ensemble in Greece, Hungary, Slovakia, Czech Republic.

 

[Akim]

wonder if they have Krasnopol munitions in their posetion

The militants do not use, the Russian troops on the territory of Ukraine, their uses, and also new models of high-precision weapons (Pantsir-S1, station EW "Krasnuha-4", new reconnaissance UAVs, new stations artillery reconnaissance, MANPADS "Verba", 120-mm mine "Gran", new shells for the MRLS, different kinds of new ATGMs and rocket-propelled grenades, new hand grenades, new anti-material rifles, new heavy machine guns, automatic rifles with laser sights.
The Ukrainian army also uses new weapons.

 

[sgarg]

@Akim, can you tell who provided you the new weapons? Is it not the Americans and the Germans??

 

[pmaitra]

To give you folks a glimpse to the amount of delusional propaganda the Kiev regime is indulging in, let's see a map of "corrupt" countries, presented by Ukrainskaya Pravda, which claims, "Ukraine ahead of Russia and China in the anti-corruption rankings."

Original source: TRACE Matrix -

In reality, it is not about corruption, but a ranking on 4 domains:
Domain 1: Interactions with Government
Domain 2 : Anti-Bribery Laws and Enforcement
Domain 3 : Governmental and Civil Service Transparency
Domain 4 : Capacity for Civil Society Oversight

How many of you agree with this map? There is a larger map at the original source.

 

[Akim]

@Akim, can you tell who provided you the new weapons? Is it not the Americans and the Germans??

Ukrainian military industry this high-tech industry. She is able to provide rearmament. However, all these years, the budget for the army were allocated very little money and the MIC worked only for export. We do not need weapons of NATO standards. This other system and they have to be retrained.

 

[sgarg]

Ukrainian military industry this high-tech industry. She is able to provide rearmament. However, all these years, the budget for the army were allocated very little money and the MIC worked only for export. We do not need weapons of NATO standards. This other system and they have to be retrained.

Whatever you have is copy of Russian weapons (which your MIC exported). You need Russia's help to build those weapons. This help is not available anymore.

We have reports of a lot of equipment coming from NATO countries. The small items like ammunition and infantry weapons are easy to hide. Ukr. tanks and vehicles may be from local sourcing, but not the same with ammunition etc.

If you say you did not have money earlier, how did you get the money suddenly. Who is providing the money?? Whose war is this??

 

[sgarg]

To give you folks a glimpse to the amount of delusional propaganda the Kiev regime is indulging in, let's see a map of "corrupt" countries, presented by Ukrainskaya Pravda,

Ukraine is as corrupt (if not more) as Russia. This we have known for a long time.
The "CORRUPTION" is flogging a dead horse. Most Ukrainians are not hopeful anything will happen.

However the means adopted today of ethnic cleansing and violence will boomerang on Kiev as none of the measures solve structural problems.

 

[Akim]

Whatever you have is copy of Russian weapons (which your MIC exported). You need Russia's help to build those weapons. This help is not available anymore.

We have reports of a lot of equipment coming from NATO countries. The small items like ammunition and infantry weapons are easy to hide. Ukr. tanks and vehicles may be from local sourcing, but not the same with ammunition etc.

If you say you did not have money earlier, how did you get the money suddenly. Who is providing the money?? Whose war is this??

Just the opposite. Many components for the Russian army came from Ukraine (helicopters, SAM, cruise, tactical and strategic missiles, electronics, optics, lasers). Ukraine has a lot of closed production cycles. And no copying of Russian weapons. Ukraine and Russia had a one-basis - of the USSR. It is from his MIC and continued development.
There is no money now. Ukraine takes those samples that were produced for export.

 

[sgarg]

Just the opposite. Many components for the Russian army came from Ukraine (helicopters, SAM, cruise, tactical and strategic missiles, electronics, optics, lasers). Ukraine has a lot of closed production cycles. And no copying of Russian weapons. Ukraine and Russia had a one-basis - of the USSR. It is from his MIC and continued development.
There is no money now. Ukraine takes those samples that were produced for export.

Can you give me some specifics of which deliveries are cancelled to divert to this war??
Arms sales are always in public domain so you should not have any difficulty.

 

[Akim]

Can you give me some specifics of which deliveries are cancelled to divert to this war??
Arms sales are always in public domain so you should not have any difficulty.

Ukraine stopped deliveries to Russia of all helicopter engines, engines, engines for transport aircraft An-140T, engines for cruise missiles AA-20, laser rangefinders for frigates, Fire-and-forget of missile of class "air-to-air, components for SAM 'Buk". Also stopped import engines Yaroslavl motor plant.

 

[sgarg]

@Akim, none of the deliveries you stopped to Russia are being used in East Ukraine. Which export contracts did Ukraine stop to divert to East Ukraine war??

 

[Akim]

Which export contracts did Ukraine stop to divert to East Ukraine war??

I have understood correctly?
The BTR-3E1 for Thailand, BTR-4E for Iraq, T-64B1M1 for the Congo,station EW "Mandat" for Azerbaijan, station artillery reconnaissance "Zoopark-2" for Saudi Arabia, trucks KrAZ for Egypt, assault rifles Fort 221 (Tavor) and the machine guns Fort 224 (Negev) for Israel, machine guns KT for Turkey.

 

[pmaitra]

In the Ukrainian army has increased the number of commit suicide and deserters

The report compares the data for the past two years. Last year finished with a 13 Ukrainian soldiers in this - already 46 [suicide]. In total, according to the Military Service Law Enforcement, killing 860 people, 700 of them - on the front.

These figures are likely understated: Ukrainian Security Council said yesterday that in the zone of conflict killed more than a thousand soldiers. Other figures report no less sad.

Almost threefold increase in the number of offenses in the Ukrainian army. In the past year, this figure stood at 3 points today - 8.16 points. In this case, half of the offenses punishable.

The number of deserters too shocking. According to recent reports, the run set off 5.5 thousand people, of whom nearly a thousand military personnel, and the rest - those who fell under the spontaneous mobilization. Delay is less than half failed to escape. Three thousand soldiers still listed departed in irrevocable AWOL.

 

[Akim]

In the Ukrainian army has increased the number of commit suicide and deserters

Why did they not report the number of suicides in the Russian army?
According to yesterday, in the zone the ATO; died 1050 soldiers and 400 missing.