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Shashank Nayak

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Have there been any major armored offensives in Europe in winter..? Like both Operation Barbarossa and Battle of Kursk were in Summer... Tanks malfunction in winter.. Although I would say, EU would be more dependent on Russia, and more forgiving of Russia, if a Russian offensive happens in February, than June..
 

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Zelensky just said US to shut the f*ck up

differences in how gov't and media treat the populace.

US media (often the gov't too)...try to tell the populace the truth of what is happening and expect people to be rational, patient and as a group communicate to decide what is best for the nation.

Old Eastern Soviet bloc....deceive the populace because a populace of serfs is unable to react rationally to news. Guess Zelensky feels serfs provided with information will panic or freak out.
 

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differences in how gov't and media treat the populace.

US media (often the gov't too)...try to tell the populace the truth of what is happening and expect people to be rational, patient and as a group communicate to decide what is best for the nation.

Old Eastern Soviet bloc....deceive the populace because a populace of serfs is unable to react rationally to news. Guess Zelensky feels serfs provided with information will panic or freak out.
Constant panic tanks an already screwed up Ukrainian economy.. Ukraine does not decide if and when Putin invades.. Also, Ukraine has been prepared to the best of abilities.. So, no point for Ukraine in going mental, like US, UK have been going over Russian Invasion saga since November..
 

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Typical russian media BS. It is a good system but inferior to most advance PAC system. American systems have proved itself again & again in combat , russian system have not.
S-200s still shoot down aircrafts that have EW capabilities and pantsir has been proven by israeli, russian syrian and US thats its efficient.


US sources: Israeli F-16s fired Delilah cruise missiles over Syria from Lebanese air space. F-35s joined second wave - DEBKAfile

the only thing the pacs has proven was pissing off israelis and the saudis.
 

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Russian system are good not great, for indian needs it's more than enough. Technology wise it's not a golden bird.
Its pretty amusing that a NATO member country bought it, and purchased another batch of it despite being offered PACS that you so praise.
 

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Constant panic tanks an already screwed up Ukrainian economy.. Ukraine does not decide if and when Putin invades.. Also, Ukraine has been prepared to the best of abilities.. So, no point for Ukraine in going mental, like US, UK have been going over Russian Invasion saga since November..

What's the point of living in lala land if you're about to be steam rolled. Hoped for tge best but prepare for the worst.

And the responsibility of a democratic government is to be frank with its people.
 

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Typical russian media BS. It is a good system but inferior to most advance PAC system. American systems have proved itself again & again in combat , russian system have not.
Syrian S-200s have time and again intercepted Israeli missiles fired in the first round.. forcing Israel to launch a second round of saturation attacks in quick succession..
 

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What's the point of living in lala land if you're about to be steam rolled. Hoped for tge best but prepare for the worst.

And the responsibility of a democratic government is to be frank with its people.
He did say that Russia has huge amounts of military hardware concentrated on the border.. But, he does not agree that an invasion is imminent in February.. Its not that Americans can read Putin's mind..
 

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Ukrainian enterprises have begun production of the second battalion of the Neptune anti-ship missiles, although the first battalion has not yet taken up combat duty. There will be three battalions in total.

Because of Russia, we are forced to actively rearm.
Neptune AShM is essentially the KH-35 missile right?

It's like the old Harpoon missiles that USN is now decommissioning.
 
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