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Crimea and Donbass before 2014 had 9 million people. Are you sure its 5%?
Your bastard authorities gave up in Crimea without a fight and unleashed a war in the Donbass, only to get rid of this electorate.
Only losing territories affected? Why modestly kept silent about the other reasons and would prove that I'm lying and it's all not true?



Even if this is true, who said that we suffer from this? Who said that a population that is able to give up its name, ancestors, faith is at least somehow valuable?
Jokes about the Ukrainian partisan detachment, in which there is always at least one traitor, appeared long before 2014.
The population, so cowardly that there was not even a single rally against the war, but there were rallies so that their sons would not be given fake bulletproof vests? Even the petition for peace on the Internet was signed by a miserable number of people.
Has Russia occupied the entire Donbass? Only a third. And a lot came out of there. Me and 2 million others.
So you can lie to the English-speaking guys, but not to me.
 

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Has Russia occupied the entire Donbass? Only a third. And a lot came out of there. Me and 2 million others.
So you can lie to the English-speaking guys, but not to me.
Donetsk and Lugansk are the largest cities in Donbass and are not controlled by Kiev. Those who went to Ukraine are clearly pro-Maidans. And plus, elections are also prohibited in the part of the territory of Donbass controlled by Kiev.
 

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What are you talking about? There is no NAM. The only reason that India can get sanction exemptions is China.
He wasnt talking about sanction exemptions.. He was talking about India's ability to show washington the middile finger, which is directly proportional to the lack of military dependence that India has on America.. None of India's most important offensive weaponry is of American origin, and that results in less leverage for America.
India went ahead with the S-400 deal, taking into account the possibility of American sanctions, and with the knowledge that India can deal with it..
The China factor in exemptions is secondary..
 

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He wasnt talking about sanction exemptions.. He was talking about India's ability to show washington the middile finger, which is directly proportional to the lack of military dependence that India has on America.. None of India's most important offensive weaponry is of American origin, and that results in less leverage for America.
India went ahead with the S-400 deal, taking into account the possibility of American sanctions, and with the knowledge that India can deal with it..
The China factor in exemptions is secondary..

If it were not for the China factor India would easily be sanctioned by the US and that is bad for India no matter the jingoism from Soviet Indian orphans.
 

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Donetsk and Lugansk are the largest cities in Donbass and are not controlled by Kiev. Those who went to Ukraine are clearly pro-Maidans. And plus, elections are also prohibited in the part of the territory of Donbass controlled by Kiev.
You're lying again. A migrant from Donbass cannot vote for local authorities, but he can vote in national elections.
 

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If it were not for the China factor India would easily be sanctioned by the US and that is bad for India no matter the jingoism from Soviet Indian orphans.
Are you an Orphan ? Stop using that term, you piece of sh*t..
Ofcourse, US sanctions would be bad for India, but India can absorb their ill effects and still move ahead..
 

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Are you an Orphan ? Stop using that term, you piece of sh*t..
Ofcourse, US sanctions would be bad for India, but India can absorb their ill effects and still move ahead..

That's what the Putin-licking is all about... the cries of children orphaned by the USSR and who are rechanneling that teary eyed emotion to Russia.

Trade with Russia has not made India economically successful, that is trade with the US and US allies. And yet Russia is the dream ally. Russia double crosses India at every turn with China, and yet Russia is the angel ally... that's Indian Soviet orphans. :bplease:
 

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You're lying again. A migrant from Donbass cannot vote for local authorities, but he can vote in national elections.
Where I wrote about this? Reading one thing, writing about another?
I wrote migrants to Ukraine are mostly pro-Maidan, pro-Russian stayed or migrated to Russia.
 

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At least we fight countries with organized militaries, sometimes with even superior weaponry (Pak in 65 and 71) (China in 62 and 67).
Ya'll Nibbiars The Amerikan provided the hyped pattons which we crueshd like tin cans in both the 65 and 71.
 
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Are you an Orphan ? Stop using that term, you piece of sh*t..
Ofcourse, US sanctions would be bad for India, but India can absorb their ill effects and still move ahead..
What Americunt Slaves like this guy leave out is that sanctions are not a one-way street. The sanctions on Russia and other countries hurt the US too.

And as @Haldilal pointed out, this is pure neo-imperialism. Sanctions are a tool of war used to attack and starve entire populations because of foreign policy decisions. Sanctions aimed to kill, invasion, mass-murder have all been tools of The Great Satan from the start.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars our AMX 13 and Centurions crushed the Pattons like a thin slice in the butter at the every war they had then and the so called technical superior tanks burst out in the thin air.
 

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What Americunt Slaves like this guy leave out is that sanctions are not a one-way street. The sanctions on Russia and other countries hurt the US too.

And as @Haldilal pointed out, this is pure neo-imperialism. Sanctions are a tool of war used to attack and starve entire populations because of foreign policy decisions. Sanctions aimed to kill, invasion, mass-murder have all been tools of The Great Satan from the start.

With so called American "neo-imperialism" India gets turbo charged economic growth. With Putin's "medieval imperialism" Russian neighbors get Crimealized... :bplease:
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars The Amerikan provided the hyped patrons which we crueshd like tin cans in both the 65 and 71.
China in 1967 go brrrr
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Source: The Greater Game: India's Race with Destiny and China By David Van Praagh

Even when we were sleep deprived, starved, and practically abandoned by Delhi in 1962, we put up a fight with WWI weaponry and one of our battalions (6 Kumaon) even scored a successful counter attack in the Walong sector:
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Source: Time Magazine (Nov. 30, 1962)
 

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China in 1967 go brrrrView attachment 134371
Source: The Greater Game: India's Race with Destiny and China By David Van Praagh

Even when we were sleep deprived, starved, and practically abandoned by Delhi in 1962, we put up a fight with WWI weaponry and one of our battalions (6 Kumaon) even scored a successful counter attack in the Walong sector:
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Source: Time Magazine (Nov. 30, 1962)
Ya'll Nibbiars it was our sheer will to fight.

Have to see how much will does the ukranina troop have. Only time will tell. But still I think it will be more like a guriella warfare rather than a conventional warfare.
 

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Recently the CIA actually disavowed the entire propaganda campaign about the "Havana Syndrome", in which for several years (!) it was claimed that Russia or China was allegedly irradiating American diplomats with something. In fact, the Western media have been feeding their viewers and readers with the most primitive conspiracy theory for several years without any factual basis.
 
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