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Belarus hacktivists target railway in anti-Russia effort

BelZhD, at the command of the terrorist Lukashenko, these days allows the occupying troops to enter our land. As part of the "Peklo" cyber campaign, we encrypted the bulk of the servers, databases and workstations of the BelZhD in order to slow down and disrupt the operation of the road. The backups have been destroyed.

Dozens of databases have been cyberattacked, including AS-Sledd, AS-USOGDP, SAP, AC-Pred, pass.rw.by, uprava, IRC, etc.

⚠ Automation and security systems were deliberately NOT affected by a cyber attack in order to avoid emergency situations.
We have encryption keys, and we are ready to return Belarusian Railroad's systems to normal mode. Our conditions:
🔺 Release of the 50 political prisoners who are most in need of medical assistance.
🔺Preventing the presence of Russian troops on the territory of #Belarus. https://t.co/QBf0vtcNbK

— Belarusian Cyber-Partisans (@cpartisans) January 24, 2022
 

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Yea lol this is some good americunt fantasy right here.

This news is not even conformed and according to all the osnit handles keeping track of Russian railways the overall moment has only increased.

If the Russians decide to attack ukraine and US moves to sanction the world should first hold a meet to sanction American for their genocidal crimes in the middle East Central Asia south east Asia and Central America.

We cannot have savages like Americans roam around the world freely especially after what they did with the natives.

If the world wants peace it should start with the dissolution of America.
 

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Yea lol this is some good americunt fantasy right here.

This news is not even conformed and according to all the osnit handles keeping track of Russian railways the overall moment has only increased.

If the Russians decide to attack ukraine and US moves to sanction the world should first hold a meet to sanction American for their genocidal crimes in the middle East Central Asia south east Asia and Central America.

We cannot have savages like Americans roam around the world freely especially after what they did with the natives.

If the world wants peace it should start with the dissolution of America.
50,000 US troops dying in the Baltics will lead to a US Presidential assassination and not an impeachment.

Biden is trying to spark regional war with Russia to get a new sock puppet enemy to distract US citizens from inflation, economic depression, political radicalism and coronavirus.

Will be an extremely foolish movie for NATO.
 

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Caught between Belarus, Russia and the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad, it is indefensible to any serious russian offensive..
Kaliningrad itself would be under threat no, since its already encircled?
Also I have my doubts on the offensive capabilities of Russians against significant American forces, the Russians today neither have overwhelming quantities like during late Cold-war era and their quality which (was always behind) has only increased - most of their armour is still made up of T-72s, a lot of them are not even upgraded I understand.
 

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Tanks rarely fight tanks.
Bro Ukranians are a wonderful people and country.

But the truth is if Russia attacks, you guys are fucked.

These are the same chaps who destroyed Nazi Germany while drunk on Vodka and misery.

The Western world is using you people as a 'meatshield' to test Russian Hypersonic / Next Gen to unite NATO against them and by extension against the Chinese.

Either Ukraine will turn into Syria or it will be reabsorbed (forcefully) into Russia like Chechnya. Neither scenario looks good.
 

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Bro Ukranians are a wonderful people and country.

But the truth is if Russia attacks, you guys are fucked.

These are the same chaps who destroyed Nazi Germany while drunk on Vodka and misery.

The Western world is using you people as a 'meatshield' to test Russian Hypersonic / Next Gen to unite NATO against them and by extension against the Chinese.

Either Ukraine will turn into Syria or it will be reabsorbed (forcefully) into Russia like Chechnya. Neither scenario looks good.
It was not Russia that destroyed Nazi Germany; it was the Soviet Union that destroyed it.
You're right that they were half-starved. Such was the policy of the communists.
The war of modern Russia is Chechnya, which they lost.
We are told about aviation superiority. But Georgia had fewer combat aircraft than they shot down. Georgia's air defense is ten times weaker than Ukrainian.
Modern Russians think that their war will not affect them and they will only see it on TV. They are very wrong.
 
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It was not Russia that destroyed Nazi Germany; it was the Soviet Union that destroyed it.
You're right that they were half-starved. Such was the policy of the communists.
The war of modern Russia is Chechnya, which they lost.
We are told about aviation superiority. But Georgia had fewer combat aircraft than they shot down. Georgia's air defense is ten times weaker than Ukrainian.
Modern Russians think that their war will not affect them and they will only see it on TV. They are very wrong.
1. Russia is the Soviet Union, the most decisive battles of WW2 were fought around Leningrad, Stalingrad and Moscow not Kyiv.

2. Russians are used to suffering at the hands of mad Tsars, Dictators and Plutocrats. Their very capital grew out of a small trading village which defeated Mongols to form an empire. This makes them a very intelligent and hardly people.

3. The Russians have hundreds of times more aircraft than Ukraine. They also have mobile S400 complexes, the likes of which no Western power can field.

They can launch Kalibr missiles from the Black Sea with impunity. To reiterate no USN CBG / SSGN will fire on Russia to stop their advance.

4. Chechnya is now under the boot of Russians. They even export their mercenaries to the world using Wagner. Ask any Chechnyan about the 'little elephant' and they will tell you what they think of Russia.

5. Ukraine possesses no Ballistic Missile that can reach Russian heartlands. You have no way to even affect Russian morale. If you think they care about body bags it shows how soft 8 years with the West has made Ukraine.

The best thing for Ukraine is to temper their eagerness to be a pawn for the Western powers and mend fences with Russia.

When Trump comes back in 2024 (polls, Biden being a fuckup, record anti incumbency, etc) he will remember Zelensky leaking his phone taps to the media so I give Ukraine 2 years at most to negotiate a settlement with Russia.
 

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The war of modern Russia is Chechnya, which they lost.
Militarily, Russia won the Chechnya conflict. But after all the ramifications and the status quo that exists now, politically and economically, Russia definitely lost.
 

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1. Russia is the Soviet Union, the most decisive battles of WW2 were fought around Leningrad, Stalingrad and Moscow not Kyiv.

2. Russians are used to suffering at the hands of mad Tsars, Dictators and Plutocrats. Their very capital grew out of a small trading village which defeated Mongols to form an empire. This makes them a very intelligent and hardly people.

3. The Russians have hundreds of times more aircraft than Ukraine. They also have mobile S400 complexes, the likes of which no Western power can field.

They can launch Kalibr missiles from the Black Sea with impunity. To reiterate no USN CBG / SSGN will fire on Russia to stop their advance.

4. Chechnya is now under the boot of Russians. They even export their mercenaries to the world using Wagner. Ask any Chechnyan about the 'little elephant' and they will tell you what they think of Russia.

5. Ukraine possesses no Ballistic Missile that can reach Russian heartlands. You have no way to even affect Russian morale. If you think they care about body bags it shows how soft 8 years with the West has made Ukraine.

The best thing for Ukraine is to temper their eagerness to be a pawn for the Western powers and mend fences with Russia.

When Trump comes back in 2024 (polls, Biden being a fuckup, record anti incumbency, etc) he will remember Zelensky leaking his phone taps to the media so I give Ukraine 2 years at most to negotiate a settlement with Russia.
What Ukraine cannot resist is really ballistic missiles, we will shoot down subsonic "Caliber". but if you think that Russia can throw all its power and expose the rest of the borders, then you are deeply mistaken. Russia evenly brings down its units and cannot weaken its defense. Therefore, it can allocate only 600 aircraft and helicopters to the war with Ukraine. This is a lot, but not critical for our anti-aircraft gunners.
 

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Militarily, Russia won the Chechnya conflict. But after all the ramifications and the status quo that exists now, politically and economically, Russia definitely lost.
Economically, yes, but then again, who has won a war "economically" anyways?

How's Chechnya a political loss though?
 

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Economically, yes, but then again, who has won a war "economically" anyways?

How's Chechnya a political loss though?
Are there still independent rajas in India? There is such a thing in Russia.
 

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50,000 US troops dying in the Baltics will lead to a US Presidential assassination and not an impeachment.

Biden is trying to spark regional war with Russia to get a new sock puppet enemy to distract US citizens from inflation, economic depression, political radicalism and coronavirus.

Will be an extremely foolish movie for NATO.
Its not so simple. I dont think Russia or putin like the situation they are in. I'd rather say the amricans got them boxed in where they want them. they are being forced to play this hand. Russians might win first round but there are long term consequences, if they invade Ukraine. They will be totally cut off from EU, more dependency on china. Look at the germany navy chief fiasco, how everyone from Ukraine to US authorities started hounding them. If Russia invades Ukraine, EU countries will be forced to cut off all ties to Russia. Putin can blackmail with gas, but still its not an optimal situation.

On the other hand if they don't do anything, they lose Ukraine forever. It will embolden other neighbors to take sides too. Russia has manpower, economy troubles along with the creation of a new enemy state at its doors, US has no such problems as of now.(but the current and foreseeable condition of Ukraine is bad to very bad)
 
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