Civil war in Ukraine

[Flash12]

Eighth year of the war ?

Yes, some Ukrainians say they have war with Russia for 8 years from 2014.

 

[Optimistic Nihilist]

three possibilities:

1) this is intentional, US is coaxing the Russians to make the first big bad move, so that they have moral authority to form a global military alliance later.

2) muricans have so many contradictory internal policy goals driven by interest groups in Washington DC, that there is a policy paralysis.

3) muricans are so desperate to avoid the china question that they invented a low scale crisis to drag their feet as long as they can.

My money would be on the 1st option. It's a game of who blinks first. I don't even think it matters if Russia makes a bad move first, sooner or later America will use some excuse to wage a major money-raking war with its allies again.

Because you can’t make up $500 billion worth of phony reasons for an Empire First national security policy without going off the deep-end. You have to invent missions, mandates and threats that are just plain stupid like the purported Russian “occupation” of Crimea or flat out lies like Saddam’s alleged Weapons of Mass Delusion.

You must invent, nourish and enforce an entire universal narrative based on completely implausible and invalid propositions, such as the “Indispensable Nation” meme and the claim that global peace and stability depend overwhelmingly on Washington’s leadership.

That's what led to the Washington inflicted carnage and genocide in Vietnam with the excuse of making the world more peaceful or stable.

That's what led to the two wars against Iraq which accomplished nothing except destroy the tenuous peace between the Sunni, Shiite and Kurds, thereby opening up the gates of hell and the bloody rampages of ISIS.

That's what led to the billions Washington illegally channeled into the rebel and jihadist forces in Syria which destroyed the country, created millions of refugees and forced the Assad regime to engage in tit-for-tat brutalities, as well as call-in aid from his Iranian, Russian and Hezbollah allies.

In a word, Imperial Washington’s overarching narratives and the instances of its specific interventions alike rest on a threadbare and implausible foundation; and more often than not, they consist of arrogant fabrications and claims that are an insult to the intelligence of anyone paying even loose attention to the facts.

Imperial USA doesn't even care about facts, logic, history or truth. At the time of the Bush War on Saddam’s nonexistent WMD’s, GOP “strategist” Karl Rove explained the Empire’s New Creed without pulling any punches.

“That’s not the way the world really works anymore. We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality – judiciously, as you will – we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

There you have it. And Rove is no out-of-the-way academic scribbler inventing some high-flutin’ rationalization for American global hegemony. To the contrary, he’s a lifetime Swamp creature, leading beltway racketeer and the strategic brain trust of the GOP establishment.

So, it's just a matter of time. The "Patriotic freedom-loving Americans Vs Evil Russian fascist invaders" narrative is on in full swing which will be used to justify another money-grabbing illegal war.

 

[Akim]

Eighth year of the war ?

Yes.
I confirm, and when the bombing of cities begins, there is a great hope that a fragment will fly into our clown's ass. After all, he "saw the peace in Putin's eyes."

 

[JBH22]

Yes.
I confirm, and when the bombing of cities begins, there is a great hope that a fragment will fly into our clown's ass. After all, he "saw the peace in Putin's eyes."

Na don't say war. It is skirmish.
Real war means RuAF operating over Ukrainian skies, Russian tanks rolling down the plains and Russian navy blockading. The threat is always there, but I don't see Russian invading Ukraine.

 

[Akim]

Na don't say war. It is skirmish.
Real war means RuAF operating over Ukrainian skies, Russian tanks rolling down the plains and Russian navy blockading. The threat is always there, but I don't see Russian invading Ukraine.

These are low-intensity fights. This is a war in which both Ukrainians and Russians are dying.

 

[Haldilal]

These are low-intensity fights. This is a war in which both Ukrainians and Russians are dying.

Ya'll Nibbiars and more will die you got into the same trap as us.

 

[Akim]

Ya'll Nibbiars and more will die you got into the same trap as us.

Yes, it's for a long time.

 

[Optimistic Nihilist]

Deputies of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation have suggested that the Duma officially appeal to Putin and ask him to recognize the independence of the LPR and the DPR.

The Kremlin has said it has not yet seen the draft appeal of the State Duma deputies from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation on the need for the speedy recognition of the DPR and LPR.

 

[Haldilal]

Deputies of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation have suggested that the Duma officially appeal to Putin and ask him to recognize the independence of the LPR and the DPR.

The Kremlin has said it has not yet seen the draft appeal of the State Duma deputies from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation on the need for the speedy recognition of the DPR and LPR.

Ya'll Nibbiars It's happening now the Russian will get context to move heavy weaponry in these regions. We'll definitely not offensive but they will be in position now.

 

[Akim]

Deputies of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation have suggested that the Duma officially appeal to Putin and ask him to recognize the independence of the LPR and the DPR.

The Kremlin has said it has not yet seen the draft appeal of the State Duma deputies from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation on the need for the speedy recognition of the DPR and LPR.

What will change from recognition. Russia still controls this territory.

 

[doreamon]

This whole thing is very bad news for India if it leads to war . There is dependence in defence no doubt but there were other plans too . Like increasing indo russia trade to 30 bil by 2025 . Using energy resources of eastern russia . War ll make Russia completely lap dog of china . Foreign and defence policy makers ll have to realign everything from scratch .

 

[Optimistic Nihilist]

Sec State Blinken says US does NOT intend to give Russia a written response to its list of demands when he meets w/Lavrov this week. Kremlin spokesman said just this morning that Russia still hoped to receive written responses "in the coming days."

 

[BabaKhalbali]

This tamasha is being done by Putin mama so as to get Nordstream 2 contract signed

 

[Kumata]

EU together with partners will impose large-scale sanctions against Russia if "the situation in Ukraine worsens".

-the head of the European Commission

EU forgets that its putin who supplied them the gas to keep their homes warm... the moment tap is off, whole gora saab will be on streets...

 

[Optimistic Nihilist]

EU forgets that its putin who supplied them the gas to keep their homes warm... the moment tap is off, whole gora saab will be on streets...

And it's their own fault for listening to a teenage school dropout and falling for le green energy memes. Now they are dependent on Russia for energy.

 

[Kumata]

And it's their own fault for listening to a teenage school dropout and falling for le green energy memes. Now they are dependent on Russia for energy.

Own mouni baba is also on same line..Another greta fan...

 

[warmachine541]

US always thinks ahead.

The only thing stopping US from engaging in money making wars is Russia. Russia outsmarted the US in Syria and continues to do so.

Once US weakens Russia and destroys it's industrial military complex, both China and India lose access to weapons.

Chinese weapons are not reliable and India is still in early stages of building a functioning military complex.

US will stop at nothing to destroy or weaken Russia.

 

[Optimistic Nihilist]

Own mouni baba is also on same line..Another greta fan...

Morons, all of them. Nuclear energy is the way forward. Solar, wind and all these stuff at the end of the day are memes, even a fucking city, leave alone a state or a nation can't run on those. Great feel-good stuff, not so practical.

 

[Kumata]

US always thinks ahead.

Once US weakens Russia and destroys it's industrial military complex, both China and India lose access to weapons.

Chinese weapons are not reliable and India is still in early stages of building a functioning military complex.

Untill, we have putin baba.... US have zero hopes more so with paedo at helm.... they have been thinking this for 8 decades almost...

remember, eleven & putin are one team at the moment... the moment, US goes on offensive..eleven will open his own front.... EU is inconsequential in bigger scheme of things....they will bear the overall damage of this whole fiasco....

 

[Optimistic Nihilist]

Morons? perhaps, unless of course there are going to be far fewer people in existence to use the energy provided.

Don't speak so cryptically. What exactly do you mean? Are you saying that nuclear energy is very dangerous and using it may result in a large number of deaths?