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"Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov, who led the Russian delegation in Monday’s talks with the U.S. in Geneva, said in televised remarks that he would “neither confirm nor exclude” the possibility that Russia could send military assets to Cuba and Venezuela if the talks fail and U.S. pressure on Russia mounts."
 

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Thing is, we have the emergency laws adopted from the Weimar republic, and after everything (the pandemic, the unemployment, the resurgence of Hindu nationalism), a half a billion strong force will mobilize.
Sure, we have our fair share of traitors who'll rear their ugly heads, but the gloves come off when emergency is declared.

Every lil oligarch, chairman and president's chair will get shaky and if that doesn't dissuade them, perhaps big boy bombs will.

I want them to push us in a corner because then they can have the shit sandwich too.

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The Raccoons! Very famous in Canada. Bert and his Friends.


There is also a little movie.

yes, India has lots of men. Islam and China also have lots. Others with alliances have enough that numbers will make no difference. India's big population didn't stop Alexander from taking a go a them. China's big pop didn't stop the Mongoloids conquest or the Japanese from invading.

Anyways just tossing something out that has the potential to happen because of alliances. :)
 

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The Raccoons! Very famous in Canada. Bert and his Friends.


There is also a little movie.

yes, India has lots of men. Islam and China also have lots. Others with alliances have enough that numbers will make no difference. India's big population didn't stop Alexander from taking a go a them. China's big pop didn't stop the Mongoloids conquest or the Japanese from invading.

Anyways just tossing something out that has the potential to happen because of alliances. :)
Yeah, but the difference in our capability isn't as vast as say... Alexander's Army to our fragmented rulers.

If we're talking of history, any comparable force which has gone up against a peer has had a really pyrrhic victory.

Exceptions do exist, but they're the outlier and not the norm.

Again, I'm throwing out potential realities as well.
I'm no astrologer.
 
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Thelegatein tweeted:

US claims it has intel that Russia has already prepositioned a group of elite 'Black Ops' operatives, highly trained in urban combat and demolitions, to carry out a false-flag operation against Russian proxy forces in eastern Ukraine.
 

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Thelegatein tweeted:

US claims it has intel that Russia has already prepositioned a group of elite 'Black Ops' operatives, highly trained in urban combat and demolitions, to carry out a false-flag operation against Russian proxy forces in eastern Ukraine.
I do not get the point of it. Already any way to justify the war with Ukraine will be perceived as a provocation. We can say that our feet stink. Why these formalities?
 

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I do not get the point of it. Already any way to justify the war with Ukraine will be perceived as a provocation. We can say that our feet stink. Why these formalities?
perhaps it comes down to who actually wants/needs the war. Who people can trust or believe.
Americans could be lying. In seeking a war, they attack the Russians and claim it is a Russia false flag attack. Russians would know the truth and probably respond. Ukrainians die. Americans and the banking cabals get a war for profit. ABCANz might even be eager for a huge wave of Ukrainian refugees. More people, more infrastructure, more jobs, more consumption.... Zorg's way (the Fifth Element). Good luck. :(

Have Americans ever been deceivers? In conflict deceptions are used.
 

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perhaps it comes down to who actually wants/needs the war. Who people can trust or believe.
Americans could be lying. In seeking a war, they attack the Russians and claim it is a Russia false flag attack. Russians would know the truth and probably respond. Ukrainians die. Americans and the banking cabals get a war for profit. ABCANz might even be eager for a huge wave of Ukrainian refugees. More people, more infrastructure, more jobs, more consumption.... Zorg's way (the Fifth Element). Good luck. :(

Have Americans ever been deceivers? In conflict deceptions are used.
Are you sure you're from Canada? Russia attacked us, not America.
Washington will be neither cold nor hot if we lose. Putin simply does not have the courage to fight an equal opponent.
But.
I can give a tentative forecast of our actions:
The Crimean bridge will be destroyed in the first hours of the war. Dozens of radio-controlled kamikaze boats have been prepared for this.
Transnistria will be captured. We have long-range loitering ammunition to destroy Iskanders. The main thing is to quickly receive American intelligence.
If the enemy uses WMD, then one of the power units at Russian nuclear power plants may explode in response.
The war will be brutal.
 

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Washington will be neither cold nor hot if we lose.
The US cares if its allies lose. It hurts their prestige a lot. On which, among other things, rests their economic power.
The Crimean bridge will be destroyed in the first hours of the war. Dozens of radio-controlled kamikaze boats have been prepared for this.
Do you think the Crimean bridge is not well guarded to repel the attack of some kind of kamikaze boats? Ok...
Transnistria will be captured.
Well, maybe only for a few hours.
We have long-range loitering ammunition to destroy Iskanders.
You mean loitering ammunition you just started to develop?
If the enemy uses WMD
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then one of the power units at Russian nuclear power plants may explode in response.
How? By the power of thought?
 

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Are you sure you're from Canada? Russia attacked us, not America.
Washington will be neither cold nor hot if we lose. Putin simply does not have the courage to fight an equal opponent.
But.
I can give a tentative forecast of our actions:
The Crimean bridge will be destroyed in the first hours of the war. Dozens of radio-controlled kamikaze boats have been prepared for this.
Transnistria will be captured. We have long-range loitering ammunition to destroy Iskanders. The main thing is to quickly receive American intelligence.
If the enemy uses WMD, then one of the power units at Russian nuclear power plants may explode in response.
The war will be brutal.
going by the most used russian doctrine...........their airforce will come first in an attempt to neutralise ukrainian air assets......then a heavy artillery barrage that will try to flatten the surroundings near the roads to try to eliminate atgm/ambush squads and then armoured assault...

in my layman opinion your main problem will be the russian GRU and paratroopers who are mixed with the separatists....they might act as counter guerilla units to ambush ukrainian convoys and atgm squads because if your country knows about the bridge.....they know that too and will be prepared for that

they will withdraw rather than use WMD not only because the whole world will turn against them.........the nuclear fallout will affect them too
 

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Putin simply does not have the courage to fight an equal opponent.
You must have missed all the recent events. Isn't it Putin who recently put forward demands for NATO to get out of the Russian borders? Is NATO an equal enough rival for Russia?
 

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Sorry, but what about many ukranian canadians?
thought there were 1-2 million. That is like 2-4% of pop. perhaps I should have used few instead of very few. They are more clustered in Western Canada, which gives them disproportionate representation and influence to the population at large. That is how minorities intentionally or unintentionally can manipulate democrazies.
 

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perhaps it comes down to who actually wants/needs the war. Who people can trust or believe.
Americans could be lying. In seeking a war, they attack the Russians and claim it is a Russia false flag attack. Russians would know the truth and probably respond. Ukrainians die. Americans and the banking cabals get a war for profit. ABCANz might even be eager for a huge wave of Ukrainian refugees. More people, more infrastructure, more jobs, more consumption.... Zorg's way (the Fifth Element). Good luck. :(

Have Americans ever been deceivers? In conflict deceptions are used.
Dude that some heavy duty conspiracy theory.
To come up with this kind of stuff you really need to be high on very very very very very something strong stuff or you need to spend some time with our neighboring defense analyst.
In either case both are injurious to your health, The second one is extremely toxic to your mental (thinking) well being.
Health Warning : Spending microscopic amount time neighboring defense analyst you start producing strong conspiracy theory against America or India
 

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Dude that some heavy duty conspiracy theory.
To come up with this kind of stuff you really need to be high on very very very very very something strong stuff or you need to spend some time with our neighboring defense analyst.
In either case both are injurious to your health, The second one is extremely toxic to your mental (thinking) well being.
Health Warning : Spending microscopic amount time neighboring defense analyst you start producing strong conspiracy theory against America or India
wow, you are supposedly an Indian but even the Indians here don't seem to much like your comments.

Actually, there is no conspiracy because the Americans did almost exactly what I mentioned in Syria just as Flash 12 said. btw what does what I said have to do with India? Indians are more Russian and French allies and partners than American ones.
 
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