Civil war in Ukraine

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You may not like them for own reason, but you can't deny they have superior economy and might when compared to Ukraine. Just like us with China, we may not like them but they are stronger to us at least on paper it says so.
Take a chill pill avoid unnecessary confrontation, bad peace is better than good war. NATO will use like they did with Georgia and when time to fight will come they will vanish and your president will be left to munch his tie.
Focus on becoming a Switzerland which is neutral neither here nor there.🥺🥺😁
Our president can chew not only a tie. I have already said that I have a bad relation to this narcissist. But in the event of an invasion, the country will not be defended by the pagliac (паяц) and his clown team, but by the Ukrainian people. If you prefer to live as a sheep, I would rather die like a lion, before killing a dozen Russian jackals.
 

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Yes , we must not interfere here though .Or take sides
Take sides. You just wait for Ukraine to give Russians an excuse to start the whole thing.we would be tons of materials for discussion on the forum. On serious note conventionally Ukraine does not stand a chance against Russia, it's navy or airforce cannot rise up. To stop Russia it can be done via guerilla type warfare, inflict them thousand cuts
 

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Green men in Crimea was the opening act. Then Russia later used as cover Ukrainian recruits (who are harder to trace to Russia), heavily aided by Russian regulars.
The number of russian war prisoners tells that there is low number of russian fighters. Even not pro-russian OSCE doesnt tell about russian regulars in their reports. But yes, Russia supports rebel Donbass republics as West supports Ukraine as it was supporting anti-constitutional coup in Kiev.

Russians even shot down MH-17.
Really? Is it:
- just personal opinion
- a judgment by an independent court that not only accepts all evidence accusing one side and whitewashing the other side
- just a repeating of messages from the mass media and politicians who knew the culprit on the same day the tragedy occurred without any investigation
?
 

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Russia Bolsters Supply Lines, Deploys Medical Units Near Ukraine As Invasion Fears Grow: Report
Lets look the location of these "facts":
- "Russia, location unknown. "
Ok, there is nothing to say ))

- "reportedly in the Smolensk Oblast"
Smolensk region doesnt border Ukraine

- "Large convoy of military trucks driving (heading north) through the outskirts of Labinsk in Krasnodar Krai"
Krasnodar Krai doesnt border Ukraine

Сonclusion: who is it for? for those who will not check geography?
 

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Our president can chew not only a tie. I have already said that I have a bad relation to this narcissist. But in the event of an invasion, the country will not be defended by the pagliac (паяц) and his clown team, but by the Ukrainian people. If you prefer to live as a sheep, I would rather die like a lion, before killing a dozen Russian jackals.
How did you fight in Crimea? you can only "fight as lions" with civilians and with weaker rebel army.
You are brave only in words, knowing that Russia has no plans to attack you.
 

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Take sides. You just wait for Ukraine to give Russians an excuse to start the whole thing.we would be tons of materials for discussion on the forum. On serious note conventionally Ukraine does not stand a chance against Russia, it's navy or airforce cannot rise up. To stop Russia it can be done via guerilla type warfare, inflict them thousand cuts
The fact is that Russia doesnt want to invade to Ukraine. But Russia will 100% help rebel republics in case if ukrainian army will start massive attack on them.
 

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https://www.world-today-news.com/fo...-hero-of-ukraine-to-a-right-sector-volunteer/

“For personal courage.” Zelensky awarded the title of Hero of Ukraine to a Right Sector(ultra-radical organisation) volunteer
Nobody knows what was his courage in. But
"Talking about the everyday life of the brothers, Dmitry Kotsyubailo told reporters that a tame wolf allegedly lives at the headquarters, which the soldiers feed on the bones of Russian-speaking children. The joke caused a mixed reaction. When asked by journalists how, in his opinion, events will develop further, Kotsyubailo answered seriously: “Full-scale war.” "
They are "joking" in such way.
 

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Really? Is it:
- just personal opinion
- a judgment by an independent court that not only accepts all evidence accusing one side and whitewashing the other side
- just a repeating of messages from the mass media and politicians who knew the culprit on the same day the tragedy occurred without any investigation
?
The Court case filed in the Hague by the families of the Mh17 victims is still ongoing. Meanwhile, the lawyers for the family claimants are being intimidated...


Sounds suspiciously familiar, right Dimitri?
 

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Meanwhile, the lawyers for the family claimants are being intimidated...
From the article above: "In general terms, all parties concerned with the (MH17) trial are aware of physical and digital threats."
So what are actions of Dutch police and special services? If someone intimidate the lawers, police should arrest them. Or its just another case of demonising Russia without any evidences?
 

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@asianobserve It is useless to convince him of something. Only after the collapse of Russia, he learns the truth. Even Putin's death will not open his eyes.
 

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The Court case filed in the Hague by the families of the Mh17 victims is still ongoing. Meanwhile, the lawyers for the family claimants are being intimidated...


Sounds suspiciously familiar, right Dimitri?
And the court in the Hague looks like a puppet and biased.


"Investigators found the serial numbers on the debris of the Buk missile. Gen Nikolay Parshin told reporters that based on a document trail of the Buk missile, it was produced at a military plant in Dolgoprudny in 1986. The missile was later shipped to a military unit located in what is now Ukraine."

But the court in The Hague refused to consider any versions that would accuse Ukraine of the downing of MH-17.
 

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And the court in the Hague looks like a puppet and biased.


"Investigators found the serial numbers on the debris of the Buk missile. Gen Nikolay Parshin told reporters that based on a document trail of the Buk missile, it was produced at a military plant in Dolgoprudny in 1986. The missile was later shipped to a military unit located in what is now Ukraine."

But the court in The Hague refused to consider any versions that would accuse Ukraine of the downing of MH-17.
Ak203 deal signed tovarisch
 

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India says deliveries of Russian S-400 defence system have begun

“Supplies have begun this month and will continue to happen,” Indian Foreign Secretary Harsh Vardhan Shringla said on Monday after a visit to New Delhi by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
 

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Putin is shooting his foot again. He is opposing NATO's expansion to Eastern European countries and Ukraine but his aggressive actions is making sure that the opposite result happens.

In the meantime, he is alienating his neighbors more and more...


The macho thinking... stupid!
 

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Putin is shooting his foot again. He is opposing NATO's expansion to Eastern European countries and Ukraine but his aggressive actions is making sure that the opposite result happens.

In the meantime, he is alienating his neighbors more and more...


The macho thinking... stupid!
You maybe dont remember but first NATO's expansion to Eastern European countries was during president Yeltsin's Russia. When Russia was weak and "democratic".
The West grows insolent from a sense of its own impunity. They perceive any politeness and calls to negotiate as weakness. Theу only stops when someone holds a gun to their's head.
 

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