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Putin joining NATO? Why? To kill NATO from within?

You're a funny man.
Slaves like you won't get understand.

The existence of west has only brought us mass murders pillage loots and rapes on a global scale.

One day it will all come back to them sooner or later. The world can only only know peace if the west ceases to exist and it's people given the treatment that they have given others.

Slavery was banned centuries ago and yet we encounter people like you.
 

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Slaves like you won't get understand.

The existence of west bas only brought us mass murders pillage loots and rapes on a global scale.

One day it will all come back to them sooner or later. The world can only only know peace if the west ceases to exist and it's people given the treatment that they have given others.

Slavery was banned centuries ago and yet we encounter people like you.

Mass murder? The USSR mastered this dark art.
 

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You better check history. Most Soviet satellites wanted out of USSR's and later Russian grip. A lot of them were forced by the USSR after WW2 to be part of tge Soviet sphere. None of these countries wanted to be part of the USSR but Stalin forced these weak countries to submit to USSR.
Did you even read before typing? I was talking about the West's actions after the collapse of Soviet Union, not after WW2. The West forced former Soviet satellite states to come closer to NATO and EU in order to surround Russia.
 

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Why does NATO exists in first place?
NATO exists because America can use a decrepit Russia as a scarecrow to keep Eurohens in line. Without the exaggerated threat of Russian invasion, western Europe might attempt to take an independent line in the world, something that the United States' leadership fears enough to never allude to, even implicitly.

They will talk about evil Russia, evil China, evil this and that, but they never mention Europe because they don't want Europeans to realize they have a choice.
 

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Yeah, your American masters are not far behind though. Not as much difference between you two as you think there is.
Is that why the Lithuanians, Poles, Estonians, Latvians, Romanians, Czechs, Ukrainians want to be closer the EU and the US and so far away from Russia?
 

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NATO exists because America can use a decrepit Russia as a scarecrow to keep Eurohens in line. Without the exaggerated threat of Russian invasion, western Europe might attempt to take an independent line in the world, something that the United States' leadership fears enough to never allude to, even implicitly.

They will talk about evil Russia, evil China, evil this and that, but they never mention Europe because they don't want Europeans to realize they have a choice.

Oh those stupid Europeans... They're so gullible eh?
 

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Mass murder? The USSR mastered this dark art.
And the faithful dog barks again.

You want to know what's mass murder the 55 million natives killed by the west.

Millions who were killed in the ME and Africa through coups and sheer greed for money and resources.

Millions of Iranians killed by the UK during world wars through Starvation.

I for a fact know that a slave like you will enjoy the killings of his own citizen's if it's done by your white master's.
 

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Yeah, your American masters are not far behind though. Not as much difference between you two as you think there is.
His American master's could beat the shit out of him everyday and he will still be a faithful dog.

America and the west in general has far surpassed the Soviets in mass killings. There is simply no comparison here.
 

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Ukraine is nuts. .First you give up your nuclear weapons, which would have stopped Russia from doing what it did in Crimea, then, you want to join NATO, bring a hostile anti Russian alliance right at Russia's doorstep. One thing is certain, the day, it is certain that NATO will grant membership to Ukraine, Russia will launch a full fledged invasion of Ukraine.
 

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And the faithful dog barks again.

You want to know what's mass murder the 55 million natives killed by the west.

Millions who were killed in the ME and Africa through coups and sheer greed for money and resources.

Millions of Iranians killed by the UK during world wars through Starvation.

I for a fact know that a slave like you will enjoy the killings of his own citizen's if it's done by your white master's.

100 million killed under USSR?
 

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As long as the west and white genocidal maniacs exist with their false sense of superiority the world will remain a dangerous place.

I think there's no more genocidal maniac in EU and NATO. That's precisely why former Soviet satellites are flocking to these associations and away from USSR's mini me.
 

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And the faithful dog barks again.

You want to know what's mass murder the 55 million natives killed by the west.

Millions who were killed in the ME and Africa through coups and sheer greed for money and resources.

Millions of Iranians killed by the UK during world wars through Starvation.

I for a fact know that a slave like you will enjoy the killings of his own citizen's if it's done by your white master's.
What about the millions killed by the West, and America in particular through inhumane sanctions on the likes of Venezuela and Iran, and Saddam's Iraq..
 

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The population of the Ukraine is today about 37 million if we deduct the Russian part such as the Crimea and the Luhansk, Donbas, etc. none of which will ever be part of the Ukraine again. And in fact, the Eastern Ukraine is actually Russian where most of the ten million Russians live and is certain in the future to go back to Russia which is a territory of Russia which Lenin included with the Western Ukraine to assure the loyalty of the Western Ukraine to Russia.

Sevastopol and the Crimea were joined to the Ukraine by Khrushchev who was a Ukrainian Russian himself. These were always part of Russia.

The idea of an independent Ukraine was invented by the Austrians in World War 1 to weaken their adversary Russia. It worked and the Russian Army became demoralized as the Ukrainian soldiers left the Russian Army when the Ukraine seceded from Russia in the middle of the war supported by the Bolsheviks to undermine the Tsar.
 

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Is that why the Lithuanians, Poles, Estonians, Latvians, Romanians, Czechs, Ukrainians want to be closer the EU and the US and so far away from Russia?
Bogus strawman. That doesn't disprove the fact that your American masters have engaged in mass-killings too.

Only a moron would believe that the entirety of Ukraine thinks a singular way. It was a divided country along different languages, religions and cultures. What part of this don't you understand? The East wants reunification with Russia, the West doesn't.

US and EU politicians basically decided what a new Ukrainian government should look like, basically by diktat. Separatists exist in Ukraine for the reasons I pointed out because it is a divided country. Why did the separatists get armed? Because their leader was democratically elected, refused closer ties with the EU and was ousted.

Let me give you a brief history lesson:

>Russia literally calls WW2 the Great Patriotic War.
>Tens of millions died.
>Has suffered shit loads of invasions from the West, from Napoleon to World Wars.
>Creates buffers post WW2 for a reason.
>Cold War.
>Post Cold War the enemy completely dismantles your buffers and begins a process of absorbing them.

Keep deluding yourself that Ukraine is some kind of a homogeneous country that has been completely subverted by Russia.

Your forcible attempts at making countries join NATO and EU are blatant. You failed in the case of Belarus so many times that you all but pushed them into Russia's hands.
 
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