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What destroyed USSR was western sanctions, wasting too much resources on military and ofcourse "communism"
Ya'll Nibbiars if the Nikita Khrushechev type economy had continued the USSR would have been the largest economy. But the 70's stagnation and the 80's blunder destroyed it's.
The economy was (((opened up))), which is why RusFed was a clusterfuck throughout the 90s before pic related took over and brought stability to Russia.
They was economically stable during 1980s era. There were no mass protests against the regime, and most high-profile dissidents were either living abroad or were scattered and ineffective.

The basis of the disaster lies in the early twentieth century, two world wars and the hardest losses of the country (both economic and human).Though moskva buttfucked nutjob nazis devoured all of their panzers, skullfucked luftwaffe in that great patriotic war but for example the Communist party of the ussr lost more than 2.5 million active party members. In fact, the entire Communist elite died in battle. Now imagine that you have some kind of state structure that has lost its best part - the most motivated, trained and competent people who formed the basis of this structure.

Because of this the party apparatus begun to plunge into corruption and huge inefficiency post 1945 especially after stalin's death.

Finally on april 26 the based rbmk explodes with its positive feedback clusterfuck and a series of economic screw ups followed afterwards. Post chernobyl the cost grew to approx 700 billion usd. It was followed by cancellation of belorussian nuclear program to which further costed 300 billion usd immediately. Do note that ukraine was called bread basket of moskva. After rbmk pooped this role was destroyed.Nobody wanted a made in chernobyl product thereafter.

But it all started the moment they took up arms fighting for the salvation of mother russia.Even today, the legacy of Chernobyl affects the economies of Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus. Some even suggest that the economic price for the ussr was so high that it almost stopped its arms race.

It was a series of events that led to the downfall of ussr and biggest being comrade dyatlov, the man who single handedly gave the last push that began the downfall of entire soviet union.
 

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What destroyed USSR was western sanctions, wasting too much resources on military and ofcourse "communism"

USSR without above mentioned problems and a free market economy would've been where China is today.
of course. The purpose of communism is to destroy and thus renew the nation. It is not a viable political/economic system.
The purpose of fascism is to destroy the nation while indebting many other nations around said fascist nation.
Purpose of capitalism is to loot the wealth of a nation so banksters and allies can have a party (worked perfectly in the UK and USA).
 

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of course. The purpose of communism is to destroy and thus renew the nation. It is not a viable political/economic system.
The purpose of fascism is to destroy the nation while indebting many other nations around said fascist nation.
Purpose of capitalism is to loot the wealth of a nation so banksters and allies can have a party (worked perfectly in the UK and USA).
So what do you think a good system is? Because every system has a horrible side.
 

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So what do you think a good system is? Because every system has a horrible side.
indeed everything has horrible sides. Everything is a time bomb. Things have to change. like a race against time. Can we change before oblivion takes almost all of us?
 

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So what do you think a good system is? Because every system has a horrible side.
Watching people partying it up in Toronto, almost all of these people are parasitic beggars/thieves, living off of a hot potato credit scam and stealing from the people who actually created wealth. They seem to have no capacity to change. Compare to how Africans IN Africa, SE Asians and many Indians have sat patiently for decades waiting for better lives. "People" in Canada, Europe, the USA, UK cannot even wait patiently, in what for most people would be oppulent comfort. Doesn't matter what system is chosen. The problem is people.
 

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Ukraine needs to grow some balls and punch their bully hard like we did with China in ladakh.
Chinese are not so much numerically superior plus their equipment is old tech and cheap low quality. Not a threat, plus Chinese military has next to no combat experience in real world and their soldiers are conscripts mostly and don’t have habit of combat. O there was no chance that China could stand up towards India with superior weapons if less in number and this is not self bragging or self chest thumping but a fact that the chinese knew.
 

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Chinese are not so much numerically superior plus their equipment is old tech and cheap low quality. Not a threat, plus Chinese military has next to no combat experience in real world and their soldiers are conscripts mostly and don’t have habit of combat. O there was no chance that China could stand up towards India with superior weapons if less in number and this is not self bragging or self chest thumping but a fact that the chinese knew.
War is not just about armaments weapons .. There is economic factor to it . Russia may not sustain a prolong war if Ukraine is supported by western nations directly / indirectly .. War ll end with regime change in russia like 1st world war .. There is already opposition Putin rule in Russia .
 

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War is not just about armaments weapons .. There is economic factor to it . Russia may not sustain a prolong war if Ukraine is supported by western nations directly / indirectly .. War ll end with regime change in russia like 1st world war .. There is already opposition Putin rule in Russia .
The way Russia is going on, I fear it will suffer further Balkanisation.
 

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--Brodcast for the following week—
Huge amounts of roach butthurt projected all over luhansk and dontesk. Take care. And dont forget the bug spray when you go outside.




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See -https://www.pentapostagma.gr/kosmos/enoples-syrraxeis/7001802_i-toyrkia-stelnei-tzihantistes-sto-ntonmpas
 

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Link kam nai kar rhah hai sirji

same link, it's working here.
That site is like a Yavan OpIndia, 5 articles and all are roasting the Turkroach.

I have done a copy pasta of the article below, it's Boogle translated from Yavan bhasha

Confirmation Pentapostagma
The Pentagon is fully confirmed, as a month ago we reported that Erdogan was preparing to send jihadists to Donbas.

What we wrote then:
" Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is interested in the conflict in Donbas because he wants to repeat exactly the same scenario as with Azerbaijan. After subduing the military leadership in Baku, he then placed his own men in key positions. Erdogan wants to repeat the same in Ukraine, while he intends to use Tatars and jihadists in eastern Ukraine . ''



Apocalypse

" Syrian National Army mercenaries have mobilized to fight in Ukraine as tensions escalate with Russia ," Syrian and Kurdish sources said.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights has revealed that the Turkish intelligence service has instructed the leaders of the so-called "National Army" mercenaries in Syria to prepare for the possibility of sending them to Ukraine in the event of escalating tensions between Russia and Ukraine.
According to mercenary sources, the Turkish move was made at the request of Ukraine, which was made by Ukrainian intelligence officers during their meeting with Turkish officials last week. Based on this meeting, the Turkish intelligence service decided to take some steps to stand by Ukraine.
A source close to the mercenaries confirmed to Al-Nahar Al-Arabi that after the Turkish instructions reached the mercenary leaders, the preparatory efforts were accelerated in accordance with Turkish orders.
He added that they have opened secret registration centers to register the names of mercenaries wishing to go to Ukraine.
According to sources, Ankara not only repaid the mercenaries and issued orders to prepare for any emergency situation on the Ukrainian front, but conveyed through intermediaries who have worked with it that the Ukrainian contract would be more economically attractive. in connection with the contracts signed for the deployment of mercenaries on the Libyan fronts and in the Karabakh region in Azerbaijan.
According to information circulating among these ombudsmen, the monthly amount of each mercenary going to Ukraine can reach $ 4,000 and that their mission will be to develop and conduct military operations on the border with Ukraine.
The sources revealed that given the importance and seriousness of the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, work is underway to secure a first batch of at least 7,000 mercenaries, which will be on standby so that Turkey can send them to Ukraine as soon as possible.
It is clear from the above that Turkey wants to involve Syrian mercenaries in Ukraine. The reason is simple, it will "sell" an expedition to Ukraine, NATO and especially to the USA, in order to extort money, without paying a blood tax itself if hostilities with Russia and pro-Russian guerrillas begin.
The Turkish involvement will mainly consist of sending mercenaries, drones, MIT agents, intelligence material and, if necessary, other military equipment. But in no case will Turkey "openly" send its military personnel and I say openly, since it is considered certain that among the Syrian mercenaries will definitely be outside the MIT agents and men of the Special Forces of the Turkish General Staff, Bordo Bereli, who operationally belong to the Deputy Chief of General Staff.
However, Turkey, as our wise people say, is "scratched in the shepherd's mouth", which is the powerful Russian Armed Forces, which have nothing to do with Syria, Libya, Nagorno-Karabakh. The mercenaries know this and that is the reason why the monthly salaries of the Turkish mercenaries, which depending on their duties and hierarchy so far ranged from $ 500-1,000 and now for Ukraine have risen to $ 4,000.
With regard to our country, we should seriously consider this "new way of conducting operations" adopted by Turkey, which as a ground force does not widely use its own units, except Bordo Bereli, Special Forces and Gendarmerie, electronic means such as Koral, while carrying out precision stand-off strikes by the Air Force and its artillery, with tanks and TOMB-TOMA securing the area previously occupied by mercenaries and Turkish commandos who have been given TOMP-TOMA-tanks.
The above minimizes the loss of manpower of the Turkish Armed Forces to conscripted hoplites, since the "dirty work" of close ground engagement with the enemy is done by Syrian mercenaries and Turkish commandos who are fully professional soldiers.
Consequently, the impact of military operations losses on domestic public opinion in Turkey is negligible, as the number of mercenaries killed is much higher than that of professional Turkish commandos.
The military experience gained by the Turkish army, even in the above way of conducting operations, is very useful, since they thus acquire knowledge of what is right and what is wrong on a modern battlefield.

The institution of mercenaries is something that could possibly be adopted by our country in order to gain combat experience on modern battlefields that is lacking.
 

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