CIA release documents find in OBL raid in Pakistani in 2011

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https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/index.html

The boys in black got loads!!!


paki got trashed in front of the world again.
Why did CIA release it now?
seems like Umrica lost the hope on pakistan that they cant dislodge pakistan from the chinese grip any more .
Bombing them to stone age is JUSTIFIED now! :D with this release.

IRAQ had Nukes
LIbya had Dictator Gaddafi
pakistan had OBL and has Zawahiri they say in Karachi
All the reason for Umrica to bomb pakis to stone age.

Remember, Swami (Nostradamus verion 2.0) saying that India has to fix the paki border soon to stop refugees from pak...did Swamidamus meant this when he said so?
 
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Bin Laden had no help from state elements in Pakistan: CIA files
By News Desk / Creative: Saadat Ali
Published: November 2, 2017




Since the 2011 raid that took out the al Qaeda head honcho, there had been much speculation in the Western world on whether Osama bin Laden had support from within the Pakistani security establishment to hide at stone’s throw from a top military academy.

America’s Central Intelligence Agency, or CIA, rummaged through a treasure trove of document seized from Bin Laden’s compound but couldn’t find anything that might suggest the world’s most wanted terrorist had any support from the establishment.

The al Qaeda chief was killed in a secret raid by US special forces at his compound near the Pakistan Military Academy Kakul in Abbottabad in May 2, 2011.

The controversial raid, denounced by Pakistan as violation of its sovereignty, triggered intense speculation that the world’s No 1 terrorist had support from elements in the Pakistani security establishment.

CIA releases massive new tranche of materials seized in 2011 bin Laden raid

The CIA released nearly 470,000 additional files recovered during the Abbottabad raid, revealing a lot of new information about the terrorist group.

There is a lot of interest in whether these documents contain details about the people who were helping or supporting the ‘most wanted man in the world’ while he was residing in the country.

Pakistan’s role in the war on terror, and the help American forces have received in the capture of some senior al Qaeda operatives down the years, has swayed US administrations in the past.

But there have also been concerns that there is a state-sponsored militant support group which helps terrorists like Bin Laden take shelter in the country.

Despite speculations, there is little evidence to lend credence to the claims that there were elements within the Pakistani security establishment who helped the al Qaeda chief reside in the country.

Tillerson talks tough to ‘incredibly important’ Pakistan

However, a meticulous review of the newly released documents might shed some light on this matter in the coming days.

According to The New York Times, one of Bin Laden’s trusted associates, whose mobile phone was seized during the raid, apparently had some contacts with the Harkatul Mujahideen group, a banned militant outfit which operates in the border region between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Al Qaeda has actively helped anti-state terrorist groups inside Pakistan wage a war on its government and citizens from across the border in Afghanistan. And some newly released files decry Pakistan’s betrayal of the militants after the terrorist attacks of September 11, and supposedly point the incident as the turning point in the relationship between the two.

Although the members of US Special Forces took everything they could from the compound, there was some intelligence left behind which was scooped up by local law enforcement officials which have not been made public.

Whatever the verdict, the released documents do offer a unique chance for journalists, experts, academics and public intellectuals to garner a better understanding of the inner workings of al Qaeda.
 

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My response in Blue.


Since the 2011 raid that took out the al Qaeda head honcho, there had been much speculation in the Western world on whether Osama bin Laden had support from within the Pakistani security establishment to hide at stone’s throw from a top military academy.

Paki Author making a complaint ^^

America’s Central Intelligence Agency, or CIA, rummaged through a treasure trove of document seized from Bin Laden’s compound but couldn’t find anything that might suggest the world’s most wanted terrorist had any support from the establishment.

Author making a Claim ^^^

The al Qaeda chief was killed in a secret raid by US special forces at his compound near the Pakistan Military Academy Kakul in Abbottabad in May 2, 2011.

Me waiting for proof..^^^


The controversial raid, denounced by Pakistan as violation of its sovereignty, triggered intense speculation that the world’s No 1 terrorist had support from elements in the Pakistani security establishment.

The CIA released nearly 470,000 additional files recovered during the Abbottabad raid, revealing a lot of new information about the terrorist group.

Me waiting for proof..^^^

There is a lot of interest in whether these documents contain details about the people who were helping or supporting the ‘most wanted man in the world’ while he was residing in the country.

How many time he will say this..Yes we all know Pakistan army was hiding him and feeding that pig. Tell us contrary to this fact.


Pakistan’s role in the war on terror, and the help American forces have received in the capture of some senior al Qaeda operatives down the years, has swayed US administrations in the past.

Here we go, this is the proof Paki Author has to give... Randi Rona ^^

But there have also been concerns that there is a state-sponsored militant support group which helps terrorists like Bin Laden take shelter in the country.

Repeating same accusation just to fill the space and make the contents laborious to read.

Despite speculations, there is little evidence to lend credence to the claims that there were elements within the Pakistani security establishment who helped the al Qaeda chief reside in the country.

Will you please give us the proof of your claim ?


However, a meticulous review of the newly released documents might shed some light on this matter in the coming days.

Oh still not meticulously scrutinised but you are already putting Pakistan off the hook. Hey Devils in detail but Devil himself won't care about this.

According to The New York Times, one of Bin Laden’s trusted associates, whose mobile phone was seized during the raid, apparently had some contacts with the Harkatul Mujahideen group, a banned militant outfit which operates in the border region between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Oh some old New York Times report, Another proof but nothing out from these documents.

Al Qaeda has actively helped anti-state terrorist groups inside Pakistan wage a war on its government and citizens from across the border in Afghanistan. And some newly released files decry Pakistan’s betrayal of the militants after the terrorist attacks of September 11, and supposedly point the incident as the turning point in the relationship between the two.

You shameless flaccid ass is being pounded by Americans for last 10 odd years is the biggest proof that you are aterror state. Keep missing the woods for the trees, this is your national Character.


Although the members of US Special Forces took everything they could from the compound, there was some intelligence left behind which was scooped up by local law enforcement officials which have not been made public.

Whatever the verdict, the released documents do offer a unique chance for journalists, experts, academics and public intellectuals to garner a better understanding of the inner workings of al Qaeda.
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Propaganda alert.

Lies already unleashed.

Pakis only rely of Headlines for their daily feel good dose.
 

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so paki generals didn't even know that he was staying next to their premier military academy. :pound::pound:
 

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@Neo,

The article is full of claims.

You wanna know the truth? Nobody has seen OBL getting killed.

Yes, I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I was trained to question every observation.

I do not have an opinion on whether OBL was killed or not, but assuming he was indeed living in that compound, it is hard to believe Pakistani intelligence did not know about it.
 

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My response in Blue.




Since the 2011 raid that took out the al Qaeda head honcho, there had been much speculation in the Western world on whether Osama bin Laden had support from within the Pakistani security establishment to hide at stone’s throw from a top military academy.

Paki Author making a complaint ^^

America’s Central Intelligence Agency, or CIA, rummaged through a treasure trove of document seized from Bin Laden’s compound but couldn’t find anything that might suggest the world’s most wanted terrorist had any support from the establishment.

Author making a Claim ^^^

The al Qaeda chief was killed in a secret raid by US special forces at his compound near the Pakistan Military Academy Kakul in Abbottabad in May 2, 2011.

Me waiting for proof..^^^


The controversial raid, denounced by Pakistan as violation of its sovereignty, triggered intense speculation that the world’s No 1 terrorist had support from elements in the Pakistani security establishment.

The CIA released nearly 470,000 additional files recovered during the Abbottabad raid, revealing a lot of new information about the terrorist group.

Me waiting for proof..^^^

There is a lot of interest in whether these documents contain details about the people who were helping or supporting the ‘most wanted man in the world’ while he was residing in the country.

How many time he will say this..Yes we all know Pakistan army was hiding him and feeding that pig. Tell us contrary to this fact.


Pakistan’s role in the war on terror, and the help American forces have received in the capture of some senior al Qaeda operatives down the years, has swayed US administrations in the past.

Here we go, this is the proof Paki Author has to give... Randi Rona ^^

But there have also been concerns that there is a state-sponsored militant support group which helps terrorists like Bin Laden take shelter in the country.

Repeating same accusation just to fill the space and make the contents laborious to read.

Despite speculations, there is little evidence to lend credence to the claims that there were elements within the Pakistani security establishment who helped the al Qaeda chief reside in the country.

Will you please give us the proof of your claim ?


However, a meticulous review of the newly released documents might shed some light on this matter in the coming days.

Oh still not meticulously scrutinised but you are already putting Pakistan off the hook. Hey Devils in detail but Devil himself won't care about this.

According to The New York Times, one of Bin Laden’s trusted associates, whose mobile phone was seized during the raid, apparently had some contacts with the Harkatul Mujahideen group, a banned militant outfit which operates in the border region between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Oh some old New York Times report, Another proof but nothing out from these documents.

Al Qaeda has actively helped anti-state terrorist groups inside Pakistan wage a war on its government and citizens from across the border in Afghanistan. And some newly released files decry Pakistan’s betrayal of the militants after the terrorist attacks of September 11, and supposedly point the incident as the turning point in the relationship between the two.

You shameless flaccid ass is being pounded by Americans for last 10 odd years is the biggest proof that you are aterror state. Keep missing the woods for the trees, this is your national Character.


Although the members of US Special Forces took everything they could from the compound, there was some intelligence left behind which was scooped up by local law enforcement officials which have not been made public.

Whatever the verdict, the released documents do offer a unique chance for journalists, experts, academics and public intellectuals to garner a better understanding of the inner workings of al Qaeda.
.......................................................................................
Propaganda alert.

Lies already unleashed.

Pakis only rely of Headlines for their daily feel good dose.
Chor ki dadhi me tinka!

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Sometimes we must deny it ever happened. It's all a lie, no proof of my hero living in my country.

The other times , it was a case of negligence rather than complicity.

A tragic truth of our impotence where we can't speak our own history and can't maintain any stance consistently on any matter.
Haqqani, Osama, Mujahideen etc all have been and still remain our heroes.

Earlier we worshipped them openly and knew all of their whereabouts but since the incident of 9/11 and Yankees spanking and violating our immodesty on daily basis, it's a pain to do it in the open.

I wish our glory days would come back.
Obviously, we know all about them when we could openly worship them as our hero but 9/11 happened, and we lost track of them all.

A day would come when we will have to deny our Prophet (pbuh P** be upon him) ever lived in Mecca and Medina.
 

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really it is funny that the all great and vaunted Internal Wing of the ISI which is responsible for domestic intelligence, domestic counter-intelligence, counter-espionage, and counter-terrorism. didn't even have an inkling of OBL's presences in Pakistan that too In Abbottabad that houses Many Defense installations so what is our esteemed member like @Neo saying
that the ISI and the Pakistani IB are run by shemales??? and cowards ???and the vaunted ISI is an abject failure ???
 

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really it is funny that the all great and vaunted Internal Wing of the ISI which is responsible for domestic intelligence, domestic counter-intelligence, counter-espionage, and counter-terrorism. didn't even have an inkling of OBL's presences in Pakistan that too In Abbottabad that houses Many Defense installations so what is our esteemed member like @Neo saying
that the ISI and the Pakistani IB are run by shemales??? and cowards ???and the vaunted ISI is an abject failure ???
Dear Good Sir, there is no reason to entertain Pakistan's innocent questions.

These fork tongue snakes are running terror enterprise and they will do anything to sustain it.

If they have to keep lying for next 1000 years they will keep lying and bluffing everyone without any guilt. They have institutionalised lying such a way that they don't even teach these tactics to their kids, they are now born with it.

Their lies are so timed well that the chronology starts from Denial, Obfuscation, Hoodwink, Doctor Facts, Protest, Emotional appeal, Play victim, Cry Conspiracy, Shift Blame (Stateless actors), Admit behind doors, Compensate with trade offs, Avoid former if possible, after things are settled down; humiliation is weaned off then show Bravado for being a nuisance.
 

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Bin Laden had no help from state elements in Pakistan: CIA files
By News Desk / Creative: Saadat Ali
Published: November 2, 2017




Since the 2011 raid that took out the al Qaeda head honcho, there had been much speculation in the Western world on whether Osama bin Laden had support from within the Pakistani security establishment to hide at stone’s throw from a top military academy.

America’s Central Intelligence Agency, or CIA, rummaged through a treasure trove of document seized from Bin Laden’s compound but couldn’t find anything that might suggest the world’s most wanted terrorist had any support from the establishment.

The al Qaeda chief was killed in a secret raid by US special forces at his compound near the Pakistan Military Academy Kakul in Abbottabad in May 2, 2011.

The controversial raid, denounced by Pakistan as violation of its sovereignty, triggered intense speculation that the world’s No 1 terrorist had support from elements in the Pakistani security establishment.

CIA releases massive new tranche of materials seized in 2011 bin Laden raid

The CIA released nearly 470,000 additional files recovered during the Abbottabad raid, revealing a lot of new information about the terrorist group.

There is a lot of interest in whether these documents contain details about the people who were helping or supporting the ‘most wanted man in the world’ while he was residing in the country.

Pakistan’s role in the war on terror, and the help American forces have received in the capture of some senior al Qaeda operatives down the years, has swayed US administrations in the past.

But there have also been concerns that there is a state-sponsored militant support group which helps terrorists like Bin Laden take shelter in the country.

Despite speculations, there is little evidence to lend credence to the claims that there were elements within the Pakistani security establishment who helped the al Qaeda chief reside in the country.

Tillerson talks tough to ‘incredibly important’ Pakistan

However, a meticulous review of the newly released documents might shed some light on this matter in the coming days.

According to The New York Times, one of Bin Laden’s trusted associates, whose mobile phone was seized during the raid, apparently had some contacts with the Harkatul Mujahideen group, a banned militant outfit which operates in the border region between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Al Qaeda has actively helped anti-state terrorist groups inside Pakistan wage a war on its government and citizens from across the border in Afghanistan. And some newly released files decry Pakistan’s betrayal of the militants after the terrorist attacks of September 11, and supposedly point the incident as the turning point in the relationship between the two.

Although the members of US Special Forces took everything they could from the compound, there was some intelligence left behind which was scooped up by local law enforcement officials which have not been made public.

Whatever the verdict, the released documents do offer a unique chance for journalists, experts, academics and public intellectuals to garner a better understanding of the inner workings of al Qaeda.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...in-Laden-protected-by-Pakistani-security.html

WikiLeaks: Osama bin Laden 'protected' by Pakistani security
Pakistani security forces allegedly helped Osama bin Laden evade American troops for almost 10 years, according to secret US government files.

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Pakistani army soldiers secure the compound where Osama bin Laden was killed in Abbottabad, north west Pakistan Photo: EPA/IFTIKHAR TANOLI



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-17188120

Wikileaks: Pakistan army officials 'knew of Bin Laden house'

Mid-ranking Pakistani army officials may have known that Osama Bin Laden had a safe house in Pakistan, leaked material appears to indicate.

The claim was madein e-mails allegedly from US-based security think tank Stratfor, which were published by the whistleblowing website Wikileaks.
 

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It was an ISI brigader who pointed Osama's location. How can one do that if there was no state involvement?

That ISI brigader was then given asylum in US, possibly a defector.

This is common knowledge in public domain since years.

‘It was Brig Khalid who informed CIA about Osama bin Laden’s compound’
Link : https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/pak...lid-who-tipped-cia-about-osama-bin-laden-759/

Silly Pakis here post anything just to get rid of their terrorist tag.

Don't worry @Neo, despite all your virtue signalling about how Pakis are misunderstood everywhere, your watan will still be remembered as the one where Osama was found.
 

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The CIA's Newly Released Osama Bin Laden Files and the Iran Angle
Was the bulk release of Osama Bin Laden’s Abbottabad data trove an act of transparency or something else?

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On Wednesday, the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), at the direction of Mike Pompeo, the Agency’s director, released 321 gigabytes of images, audio, text, and video gather at Al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. The data was acquired by U.S. forces in 2011 following a dramatic raid on the compound that resulted in Bin Laden’s death.

Wednesday’s release is the largest yet from Bin Laden’s files despite some limited releases of books and documents that were in Bin Laden’s possession by the Obama administration. The total release contains nearly 470,000 files, according to the CIA. Readers can download the files here—do take heed of the disclaimer, though, that the files have not been thoroughly scrubbed for malware and may contain disturbing content.

It will take open source researcher months—perhaps years—to uncover every last bit of newsworthy information from this newly released trove. Shortly after release, social media users—including this author—perused the file indices made available by the CIA for any particularly notable file names.


The results were predictably—and somewhat unpredictably—eclectic. Bin Laden possessed everything from manuals on manufacturing explosives to operational documents for civil aviator interception in the United States to Tom & Jerry cartoons, crocheting instructional videos, and even the well-known viral YouTube hit ‘Charlie Bit My Finger.’ The variety may seem odd until one recalls that the compound where Bin Laden resided was also home to nearly 30 more people, some of whom were young children that may take an interest in the lovable cat-and-mouse antics of Tom & Jerry (Bin Laden, in hiding for more than a decade, may too have enjoyed the show.)

What’s fascinating about the release is that the CIA chose to make some of the documents selectively available to the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies (FDD), a Washington, D.C., based think tank whose publication, the Long War Journal, had a short post ready to go upon release to provide some early context. The Long War Journal‘s analysis notably highlighted what the newly released information said about Al Qaeda’s relationship with Iran under Bin Laden’s leadership.

Bill Roggio and Thomas Joscelyn, the authors of that analysis, note that some of the information found in a newly released document supports the long-standing narrative of general acrimony about Al Qaeda and Iran. They do go on, however, to highlight that Bin Laden had described Iran as Al Qaeda’s “main artery for funds, personnel, and communication.” Political motivations for this release aside, no doubt the documents to establish Al Qaeda’s thinking on its complicated, but convenient relationship with individuals and entities in Iran.

For D.C. outsiders, FDD isn’t just any think tank these days. It’s at the center of the Iran policy conversation in Washington and was an important source of motivation for the Trump administration’s decision to refuse to certify Iran’s compliance with the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) as required by the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act (INARA).

More broadly, several voices within FDD openly have advocated for regime change in Iran. What’s more, weeks before the release of the new Bin Laden documents, Pompeo himself spoke at FDD on Iran and other matters. (Find the transcript of that talk here, where Pompeo is asked very specifically about “Iranian-Al Qaeda links.” He even announces that the Abbottabad release was around the corner.)

This context makes what would otherwise be a welcome act of government transparency somewhat appear less forthright and in service of the White House’s now-clear agenda to undermine the JCPOA and potentially pave a path toward conflict with Iran. Regime change rationales come in many shapes and sizes when it comes to Iran, with advocates pointing to the country’s poor human rights record, support for anti-Israel groups in the Middle East, and openly anti-U.S. rhetoric. Now add possible links to Al Qaeda to that list, but do take a look at the evidence yourself. After all, it’s all out there now.



https://thediplomat.com/2017/11/the-cias-newly-released-osama-bin-laden-files-and-the-iran-angle/
 

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Al-Qaeda Has Rebuilt Itself—With Iran’s Help

Interviews with al-Qaeda members and bin Laden’s family reveal a pact that allowed the group to prepare for its next phase.


The last Islamic State redoubts have been falling in quick succession in recent weeks, with the U.S.-backed coalition taking the caliphate’s self-declared capital of Raqqa last month, and then Syrian forces reclaiming the strategic oil city of Deir al-Zour. But while the group’s experiment in a statehood built on rape, slavery, and execution nears its end, an older terror front has been quietly reconstituting itself. Against all odds, and despite the most costly counter-terrorism campaign ever waged by the West, al-Qaeda has flourished—its comeback assisted by a remarkable pact with Iran.

President Trump recently pointed to this relationship to justify de-certifying the Iran nuclear deal. Facing overwhelming European opposition to that move, CIA director Mike Pompeo suggested the al-Qaeda-Iran pact had been an “open secret” during the Obama administration, which had failed to act. Then last week, the CIA declassified a new trove of documents from the 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden in his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. This document dump, which will take years to sort through and analyze, appeared to confirm the relationship—detailing among other things how Hamza, Osama bin Laden’s son, sheltered in Iran and even got married there; and how, according to one 19-page document, negotiations between al-Qaeda and the Revolutionary Guards in Tehran touched on funding and arming the Sunni terror outfit so it could strike at American targets.

In the days since, several commentators, including in these pages, have dismissed these purported connections as exaggerated, pushed by the White House and its allies to justify the administration’s hostile posture toward Iran. But important new evidence, including interviews with senior al-Qaeda members and Osama bin Laden’s family, gathered by the authors over the past five years, tells a surprising history of the post-9/11 epoch, and it’s one that severely undercuts the conventional view.

Our research reveals that al-Qaeda and covert agents acting for the Iranian deep state first attempted to broker an unlikely agreement more than two decades back, after Saddam Hussein flat-out rejected al-Qaeda’s request for military assistance. The pact then flourished under the George W. Bush administration, when a back-channel from the White House to Tehran, running from 2001 to 2003, discussed it frequently. Former State Department and White House officials in on these talks maintain that the vice president’s office suggested the White House do nothing, worrying that the administration would undermine the campaign to oust Saddam Hussein in Iraq—which was being underwritten by claims he sponsored al-Qaeda and concealed weapons of mass destruction. Finally, according to these same sources, the vice president’s office also told U.S. envoys to Iran and Afghanistan that once regime change had succeeded in Iraq, Tehran was next.

A starting point for al-Qaeda’s struggle to mend itself after the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan came on November 12, 2001, when Osama bin Laden decided to head to his cave complex in Tora Bora. According to family members, bin Laden told his wives at the farewell that he wanted a different life for the children. “Please discourage them from joining this jihad,” he told his third wife Seham, a Saudi schoolteacher, in a conversation some of his children overheard and described to us. As bin Laden took off for the caves, and most of his family was smuggled into Pakistan, one of al-Qaeda’s most important officials headed for Iran. On December 19, 2001, Mahfouz Ibn El Waleed, a whip-thin Islamic scholar from Mauritania, boarded a bus in Quetta, in the Pakistani province of Baluchistan, heading for Taftan, the official border crossing into Iran. He told the story to us over many lengthy meetings, explaining how he travelled on counterfeit documents as “Dr. Abdullah,” a “medic, treating refugees from the Afghan war,” carrying a suitcase filled with U.S. dollars, in a bus with a wanted poster for bin Laden pasted to the windscreen.

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At Osama bin Laden’s side for a decade prior to 2001, Mahfouz had become a pivotal figure on al-Qaeda’s leadership council and the head of its sharia (legal) committee. When he began his journey to Taftan, he was on the UN Security Council’s sanctions list, and was wanted by the FBI for questioning about his involvement in managing the logistics for the 1998 attacks on U.S. embassies in East Africa. The CIA had raided his home in Sudan in 1998, investigating the Mauritanian’s role in counterfeiting and money laundering, as well as his attempt to consolidate bin Laden’s assets in Khartoum to send to Afghanistan. He had fled only moments before the raid, and he’d been on the run ever since. Mahfouz hoped, as his bus headed for the Iranian border, to persuade Iranian agents to offer a more permanent sanctuary to al-Qaeda’s leaders and bin Laden’s family.

Geography, politics, and history lay behind a seemingly bizarre decision by an outlawed Sunni outfit to attempt to partner with a recalcitrant Shia power. Iran shared a common border with Baluchistan in Pakistan, close to where many fighters and bin Laden family members were hiding. Mahfouz had also been to the Persian Gulf before, sent there by bin Laden in 1995 to win military support for al-Qaeda. Mahfouz had first visited Iraq, where Saddam Hussein had rejected his request; however, in Iran, the Quds Force—a covert unit within the Revolutionary Guards responsible for clandestine foreign policy—was open to it, by Mahfouz’s account. On the table was an offer of advanced military training, with al-Qaeda fighters invited in 1995 to attend a camp run by Hezbollah and sponsored by the Iranian Quds force in Lebanon’s Beqaa Valley. Trainers there were researching how to manufacture “shaped charges”—powerful IEDs that could pierce armor plating, and would later cause havoc among U.S. forces in Iraq.

There is no evidence that this 1995 pact came to anything. But a door was opened, and on December 20, 2001 when Mahfouz reached the Taftan border crossing and made a dash into Iran, he was greeted on the Iranian side by agents from the Ansar ul-Mahdi Corps, an elite cell within the Quds Force; he eventually won an audience in Tehran with its commander, General Qassem Soleimani. However, Iran was not yet fully committed to cooperating. According to senior U.S officials then working on South Asia and Afghanistan for the State Department and the White House, Iran’s Foreign Ministry, fearful that the U.S. would turn its military attentions to Iran after it finished the invasion of Iraq for which it was then building international support, reached out to the Americans.

At international conferences in Germany, Geneva, and Tokyo between December 2001 and April 2003, convened to tackle reconstruction in post-Taliban Afghanistan, Iranian officials proposed to their U.S. counterparts certain incentives in exchange for normalizing relations. Early on, the Quds force was gambling that other al-Qaeda leaders would follow Mahfouz and seek shelter in Iran, and on that basis Iranian officials proposed potentially offering them to the Americans as their end of the deal. U.S. officials involved in these talks recalled that the Bush administration flat-out declined, the president lumping Iran in with the so-called “axis of evil” powers in his State of the Union address in January 2002.

According to Mahfouz and many others in al-Qaeda, in addition to members of Osama’s family and former U.S. government officials, the Quds Force now green-lit the sanctuary plan. The Mauritanian contacted the remnants of al-Qaeda’s council in Baluchistan, Pakistan. The first to be sent over were al-Qaeda wives and daughters, along with hundreds of low-level volunteers who were escorted to Tehran. The women were put up at the four-star Howeyzeh Hotel on Taleqani Street. Husbands and unmarried fighters stayed across the road at the Amir Hotel. From there, the Quds Force gave them false travel documents that disguised them as Iraqi Shia refugees and flew them out to other countries, where they either settled or went on to join other conflicts.

The next wave came early in the summer of 2002, when high-ranking al-Qaeda leaders arrived in Iran intending to stay and galvanize the outfit. They were marshaled by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian thug who would form al-Qaeda in Iraq, the forerunner to ISIS. The first to come was Saif al-Adel. A former colonel in the Egyptian Special Forces, he traveled under the pseudonym Ibrahim. He was accompanied by fellow Egyptian and al-Qaeda council member Abu Mohammed al-Masri—whose papers identified him as Daoud Shirizi—a former professional soccer player who was also wanted by the FBI for involvement in the 1998 embassy attacks. Joining them was Abu Musab al-Suri, one of the most important strategic voices in the movement. Immediately, a re-formed al-Qaeda military council planned its first attack from within Iran, according to Mahfouz, striking three residential compounds in Saudi Arabia, killing more than 35 people (including nine Americans) in 2003.

The Mauritanian, certain the pact was holding, now called for bin Laden’s family. One of the wives and many of the children, Hamza included, arrived in Iran in mid-2002, initially settling in a fortified farmhouse, east of Zabol, an Iranian border town mainly inhabited by Arab nationals, where Arabic was the lingua franca. Hamza, unable to get used to his new life, wrote to bin Laden. “Oh father! Where is the escape and when will we have a home? Oh father! I see spheres of danger everywhere I look,” he wrote, according to a copy of the letter we saw. By mid-2003, the Quds Force had gathered Hamza, his half brothers and sisters, their mothers, and the al-Qaeda military and religious councils in Iran and escorted them to a heavily guarded training center in one of the former Shah’s palaces in northern Tehran. Only Zarqawi and the fighters from Zarqar, his hometown, did not come. The Quds Force had offered them funding and weapons, transporting them, via Kurdistan, to Baghdad, where they began targeting U.S. troops.

But even at that point, the future was not at all certain for al-Qaeda’s clerical and military leaders in Iran, nor for bin Laden’s family. The Quds Force continued offering to hand over all of them to the U.S at discreet meetings in Switzerland that took place up until April 2003. The White House continued to decline.

By 2006, the outfit had rebounded, and bin Laden’s family decided to try to reach him, wherever he was hiding in Pakistan, against the wishes of the Iranians. Hamza suggested he go first but was vetoed as too fragile, and emotional. At 19, he “would never survive on his own,” his mother told him, according to Mahfouz and half siblings of Hamza we interviewed. Hamza’s wife, Asma, had just given birth to a daughter. Instead, Hamza’s half-brother Saad, who was autistic, made a disastrous attempt, becoming marooned in Waziristan, Pakistan, where he was killed in a drone strike in 2009. Next to try was Iman, the daughter of Osama bin Laden and Najwa, his first wife. Iman, we learned, was tired of listening to the men debate. While she was on an escorted visit to a Tehran supermarket, she slipped her Quds Force guard, grabbed Iranian clothes and a plastic children’s doll and, disguising herself as a nursing mother, ran. Having decided that finding her father was too dangerous, she eventually fled to Syria, where her mother was living.

Finally, in 2010, the Quds Force, which had come under pressure from al-Qaeda to allow all of bin Laden’s family to leave Tehran, permitted Hamza and his mother to quit the base in Tehran. It had not been a straightforward negotiation—al-Qaeda in Pakistan resorted to kidnapping an Iranian diplomat there to force Tehran to make up its mind in the outfit’s favor. Hamza and his mother had requested that the Quds Force guide them to Qatar, where Hamza intended to study. Instead the Quds Force insisted they cross into Pakistan. Hamza’s mother eventually arrived at Abbottabad in February 2011, while Hamza hid in the Pakistani tribal areas, from where he wrote to his father again. He and his “pious wife” Maryam now had two children, the second “a son who I gave your name,” he wrote, according to a copy of the letter we saw. Finally, in April 2011, after many weeks of deliberations, Hamza was cleared by al-Qaeda’s military chief in Waziristan to begin a journey to Abbottabad, just days before the SEAL team raided. He wrote to his mother first, worrying: “Dear Mother, explain what I can take. … You know how important books are to me. Can I take them or not?” A few days later came her curt reply: “It is preferable to travel light.”

Hamza would remain with his father for a little over 12 hours. Bin Laden, spooked, forced him to leave, only for the SEAL team to arrive shortly afterward. A contingent of al-Qaeda’s clerical and military leaders remained in Iran until April 2012, when Mahfouz also slipped away from his Quds Force guard, and eventually flew home to Mauritania. Most of the outfit’s military council, a core group of five led by the Egyptian Saif al Adel, remained in Iran until 2015. Then the Quds Force transported some to Syria to join the fight against the Islamic State. Leading this cell was Abu al-Khayr al-Masri and Abu Mohammed al-Masri—the latter Hamza’s father-in-law, described by the U.S. intelligence community as the “most experienced and capable operational planner not in U.S. or allied custody.” With them came Jordanian fighters with connections to Zarqar, including one of Zarqawi’s most important deputies—the plan being for this group to contact ISIS fighters and leaders, encouraging a split.

Finally, in August 2015, with al-Qaeda needing a propaganda victory amid the ascent of ISIS, Osama bin Laden’s successor Ayman al-Zawahiri found a job for Hamza, who made the first of what are now seven audio statements. A 26-year-old who had still never fired a gun was used as a billboard, al-Qaeda clerics and members of his family say. Zawahiri, though, remained in charge, hiding in Pakistan, while military operations were led by Saif al Adel, who the Quds Force moved into a safe house in District 9, Tehran. Saif was now alone. In 2016, his pregnant wife, Asma, had been allowed to leave for Doha, where she stayed with bin Laden family members deported from Pakistan. Shortly after landing, she lost her baby and filed for divorce, unable to countenance the prospect of another epoch of jihad—which was precisely what al-Qaeda was planning.

Only 400 strong when the Twin Towers fell, damaged by the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan and then later overshadowed by ISIS, al-Qaeda now, with its leadership split between Iran, Pakistan, and Syria, has quietly rebuilt itself to the point of being able to call on tens of thousands of foot soldiers. Melding with anti-Assad forces, reducing its volubility, and toning down the barbarity associated with it during the Zarqawi years, a reformed al-Qaeda found in Hezbollah and the Quds Force a model for how it might now evolve.



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Oh Well!!!

ISIS was used for Toppling Syria and Egypt..They will kill ISIS for now then after Iran take down pakistan and china in one go with ISIS version 2..may be

NOW!!!!

ALQAEDA VERSION 2 for toppling IRAN!!!~

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