Chinese Navy Destroyers

[J20!]

The three post. Launch Type 052D's being fitted out at Dailan shipyard as well as 1 of the 2 Type 055's being assembled there:

 

[J20!]

Initial pictures from the launch of the first Type 055 destroyer. Hoping more official photos with better angles and quality surface soon. 10 000 tons and looking sleek. Those lines should look beautiful once she's in the water.

 

[captscooby81]

@J20!

Congratulations china ..Type 55D launched ..13000 Tons 112 VLS wow this one is right up there with the USS Zumwalt class destroyers .. 4 ships first phase and another 4 to complete by 2022 PLAN is going to really challenge the USN in any battle any where in the 7 seas..

 

[Bornubus]

@J20!

Congratulations china ..Type 55D launched ..13000 Tons 112 VLS wow this one is right up there with the USS Zumwalt class destroyers .. 4 ships first phase and another 4 to complete by 2022 PLAN is going to really challenge the USN in any battle any where in the 7 seas..

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How is this comparable to Zumwalt class ?


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[WARREN SS]

@J20!

Congratulations china ..Type 55D launched ..13000 Tons 112 VLS wow this one is right up there with the USS Zumwalt class destroyers .. 4 ships first phase and another 4 to complete by 2022 PLAN is going to really challenge the USN in any battle any where in the 7 seas..

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Lol Making things churning Out is different thing than using it in war effectively

PLAAN is no match for USN in coming end to this century

For that matter even IN in Indian ocean And i assure you that

 

[Hari Sud]

Can this destroyer withstand a hit from Brahmos missile?

 

[J20!]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/china-navy-launches-latest-generation-destroyer/2017/06/28/cdc37344-5bb8-11e7-aa69-3964a7d55207_story.html?utm_term=.fa2e030e4479

China’s navy puts latest-generation destroyer in the water

By Christopher Bodeen | AP June 28 at 1:33 AM

BEIJING — China’s increasingly powerful navy launched its most advanced domestically produced destroyer on Wednesday, at a time of rising competition with other naval powers such as the United States, Japan and India.

The first 10,000-ton Type 055 entered the water at Shanghai’s Jiangnan Shipyard on Wednesday morning, the navy said in a news release.

It said the ship is equipped with the latest air, missile, ship and submarine defense systems. China is believed to be planning to launch four of the ships.

“The launch of this ship signifies that our nation’s development of destroyers has reached a new stage,” the release said.

A photo on the navy’s website showed multicolored streamers being shot out of tubes while sailors and shipyard workers stood dockside next to a massive Chinese flag. It said chief of the People’s Liberation Army’s General Armaments Department Zhang Youxia presided over the ceremony, in which a bottle of champagne was broken over the ship’s bow.


The Type 055 is significantly larger than China’s other modern destroyer, the Type 052, representing the rising sophistication of China’s defense industries. Once heavily dependent on foreign technology, China in April launched its first aircraft carrier built entirely on its own, based on an earlier Ukrainian model.

In terms of displacement, it is roughly equivalent to the Arleigh Burke class of destroyer.

China’s navy is undergoing an ambitious expansion and is projected to have a total of 265-273 warships, submarines and logistics vessels by 2020, according to the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Naval Analysis. That compares with 275 deployable battle force ships presently in the U.S. Navy, China’s primary rival in the Asia Pacific, although the once-yawning gap between the two is narrowing rapidly.

 

[shiphone]

this one... the 3rd 052D Destroyer built by DL shipyard, the 13th of this class was also launched 3 days ago..

 

[captscooby81]

Type has displacement of 13k tons vs Zumwalt is 14k tons ..Type 55D has 112 VLS vs Zumwalt has 80 VLS

The difference may come in the Advanced gun system in the Zumwalt and also on the Radar and Anti ship defence systems and the radars Which i am sure the Zumwalt may be ahead of Type 55D ...

All in all the chinese has arrived finally in putting Destroyers of 10k above in the water ...and they are building it in numbers that's a worry for every country who has issue with the chinese ....

How is this comparable to Zumwalt class ?


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[captscooby81]

Brother i am just comparing with the ship building capabilities and the match of the pound to pound in fire power ..US is still way ahead of China ..But slowly and steadily they are reaching there that s not a good sign for anyone especially considering the Big Bully brother nature of china who wants to push to everyone and anyone who is smaller to a corner with its manpower or with its trade tactics ...

I dont think chinese are spending billions on these machines just to put them in any museum for its awaam ..They are slowly and steadily flexing their muscles and spreading their wings out to fly across the SCS and dominate the IOR and even Pacific ...

Last Arrogance has no place brother ..its time we understand and accept the strength of our enemy and start making counter measures according to it to challenge them..

Chest thumping or sitting on laurels .. like Chinese cannot do anything in IOR we still dominate is going to give us not just bloody nose much more than it ...

Lol Making things churning Out is different thing than using it in war effectively

PLAAN is no match for USN in coming end to this century

For that matter even IN in Indian ocean And i assure you that

 

[J20!]

this one... the 3rd 052D Destroyer built by DL shipyard, the 13th of this class was also launched 3 days ago..

She has been named Qiqihar/齐齐哈尔 and is the 13th 052D destroyer launch to date.

@shiphone Are the S-Band APAR's on the Type 055 the same size as the APAR's on the Type 052D's?

 

[J20!]

DDG154 Xiamen was inducted into active service with the Chinese Navy two weeks ago, and becomes the 6th Type 052D destroyer in the Navy's service.

 

[Hari Sud]

Can this destroyer stand one hit from Brahmos missile? It may not need second one.

 

[captscooby81]

It will i believe ..Provided Brahmos is able to break its AD and hit the target ..This one has some serious protection from the missiles ...We cannot say anything about any weapon unless we see them in action ..Either this Type 55 neither Brahmos ..Remember the famous 59 Tomahawk attack by US hardly 20 reached the target the rest were taken down by so many other counter measures ....

Can this destroyer stand one hit from Brahmos missile? It may not need second one.

 

[SanjeevM]

@J20!

Congratulations china ..Type 55D launched ..13000 Tons 112 VLS wow this one is right up there with the USS Zumwalt class destroyers .. 4 ships first phase and another 4 to complete by 2022 PLAN is going to really challenge the USN in any battle any where in the 7 seas..

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If you look at the front part, it looks extra strong. Anyways Chinese don't have to fire any missiles or artillery from these ships . The need stronger front part to collide into standing ships of other countries. During recent skirmishes in SCS they hit their ship into standing ship. Poor ship was badly damaged.

 

[Kalki_2018]

Just another target for Brahmos-II/Zircon.

 

[shiphone]

She has been named Qiqihar/齐齐哈尔 and is the 13th 052D destroyer launch to date.

@shiphone Are the S-Band APAR's on the Type 055 the same size as the APAR's on the Type 052D's?

might be a little bit larger with more T/R module, but just a guess...

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and some unofficial source...lol...copyright @ HHFW

 

[J20!]

Can this destroyer stand one hit from Brahmos missile? It may not need second one.

Just another target for Brahmos-II/Zircon.

Your attempts to derail the thread aside, whether it can take a hit from any ASCM is beside the point Chief @Hari Sud

Between those X-Band APAR's on the integrated mast, the primary S-Band APAR's, its L Band/VHF early warning radars, the 112 universal VLS cells available for ABM defense missiles, Long Range SAMs, MR SAMs, Short range SAM's and Electronic counter measures...

The real question is: CAN Brahmos or any other high IR and radar signature ASCM get through the Type 055's Area Air Defenses? That is the point of such large tonnage air defense destroyers-ie large sensor packages and large missile load-outs.

And the Type 055 is probably not going to be sailing far from home alone. So another question would be can Brahmos or any other ASCM get through the defenses of a Chinese Navy Surface Action Group? Type 055's, Type 052D's/Type 052C's, attendant Type 054A's their sensors and VLS load-outs. Can Brahmos get through that? You'll probably say yes for nationalistic reasons, so I ask you... How?

 

[J20!]

With official specifications on the Type 055's sensor suite non-existent, Navy Recognition enlisted the expertise of two former French Navy officers to identify the sensors in the images publicly available of the destroyers sensor/ecm/comms arrays.

DISCLAIMER: they may be knowledgeable in naval technology but this is all conjecture since they are basically eyeballing it. Still useful insight, but they may be wrong.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/inde...suites-aboard-china-s-type-055-destroyer.html

Focus - PLAN Type 055 Sensors

Analysis: Sensor and Electronic Warfare Suites Aboard China's Type 055 Destroyer


While official Chinese media have been quite reactive and open with the launched of the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN or Chinese Navy) first Type 055 Destroyer (they did publish official images of the ceremony just two hours after it took place), details on the specifications of the ship, especially its sensor suite, are still scarce. But with plenty of imagery of Type 055 sensors now available, Navy Recognition contacted two retired French Navy officers (a former frigate commander and a former electronic warfare specialist) in order to try and learn more about the PLAN's latest surface combatant's sensors.

Upmast of Type 055 during its launch (left) and upmast of the shore integration facility at Wuhan's 701 institute (right)

This analysis based on open source intelligence (and mainly images) is limited because of the limited sources of images. All information here are hypotheses or "guesses" to the best of our sources' knowledge.

Our experts first underline that the sensor fit aboard the vessel is not complete yet. In the image above, you may notice that what is likely a TACAN (tactical air navigation system ) antenna fitted on top of the mast at the shore integration facility (right) is not present on the destroyer's actual mast (left). Some elements above the pilot house / bridge appear to be reinforced and are likely future placements for various sensors including an electro-optic s fire control system for the main gun. Navigation radar appear to be missing too. Note also that the 055 mast appear to be fitted with some kind of RCS reduction shields compared to the bare mast on the right.

Type 055 right before its launch

Here is the detailed analysis by the experts we contacted:
1: UHF/VHF transmitters or R-ESM interceptor antenna
2: UHF/VHF receiver or R-ESM radio direction finding antenna
3: UHF antenna or possible Tactical Data Link
4: X-Band fire control radar for the missiles. For this role, the location is ideal (i.e nothing in its way, low risk of interference with other sensors).
5: This could be an IFF, however these antennas located above the bridge have different sizes. The large ones are likely linked to IFF roles but the smaller ones may well be LPI radars, surface (or combined) search radars or even the aforementioned "missing" navigation radars.
6: Same thing: Likely an LPI surface search or navigation radar antenna...
7: While many people on Chinese forums claim that these are L-Band radar arrays, but our experts really doubt those claims. "They may look like long range radar arrays, but they are most probably not radar array, even less so L-band ones. Such a low position, close to the waterline, would render such arrays very much ineffective". While still unusual, these arrays are probably jammers. Their locations are perfect to cover the entire flanks of the vessel. Plus they would work perfectly in conjunction with the two CIWS (HP/J-11 gun forward and HQ-10 missiles on top of the helicopter hangar).
8: Type 346B AESA Radar

Close up view of the integrated mast

Taking a closer look at the integrated mast: If the UHF/VHF antennas are located up-mast (as indicated in the side by side mast pictures), the R-ESM sensors may be fitted right above the X-Band radar (4). These two locations, so close to an X-band fire control radar may be prone to electromagnetic interference however. The small cylinder shape right above them is a jammer (the same type is already present aboard Type 052D destroyers at pretty much the same location). Finally the "Round Box" may house an antenna, an IFF system or simply the various connectors for all the systems fitted up the mast.

Type 055 right before its launch

Last but not least, some more information on the Type 055's Type 346B AESA radar emerged. According tothis source, the Type 055 is equipped with advanced active phased array radar with a larger diameter than the Type 346A radar fitted aboard the Type 052C class. One Type 346B radar array is larger than the 4.3x4.3 meter of the Type 346A arrays. The transmitter and receiver unit (is also using the latest Chinese gallium nitride (GaN) technology. Finally this new radar system is reportedly capable of fire control as well.

 

[abingdonboy]

China's most advanced Type 052D destroyer stucked in Indian Ocean from last 2 weeks due to engine failure.