Chinese Frigate 'Stranded' in Disputed Waters

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Monument to poor Chinese seamanship? Philippines would just use it as target practice.
First, they don't have the nerve, the Frigate is right there, I don't see they do a thing to it.

Second, they don't have the ability, that Frigate alone outguns any of their naval ships.
 

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It would be ideal to convert it into a hotel on sea that serves Chinese seafood.
 

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First, they don't have the nerve, the Frigate is right there, I don't see they do a thing to it.

Second, they don't have the ability, that Frigate alone outguns any of their naval ships.
You said leave it as monument. With no one on it would make good target practice.
 

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I don't think that the Chinese would like to leave it as a monument.

It will expose them if they do so.

Expose their imperialistic greed and their total naval ineptitude.
 

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I don't think that the Chinese would like to leave it as a monument.

It will expose them if they do so.

Expose their imperialistic greed and their total naval ineptitude.
expose what? That is Chinese territory, we don't care what you think
 

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Supporters of the Japanese Imperial Army and the Nazi Germany were feeling mighty and proud and the rest is history. The Chinese should learn from them.
 

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You said leave it as monument. With no one on it would make good target practice.
Even no one on there, philipines still does not dare to touch it, although I really want them to use it for target practice.
 

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When we can control the territory without firing a single shot, why bother biting?
Control? You control the waters 3 hours away from the nearest Philippine shore and 5 days away from China? Dream on. Fighting the fishes for position on the coral reefs is out of control.

Chinese Navy = Facepalm.
 

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Even no one on there, philipines still does not dare to touch it, although I really want them to use it for target practice.
We're a peaceful nation. We dont go to our neighbor's backyard and tell them to get out or else <insert unlimited threats of force from china here>.

"Dont talk peace and have a gun." - Francism
 

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Control? You control the waters 3 hours away from the nearest Philippine shore and 5 days away from China? Dream on. Fighting the fishes for position on the coral reefs is out of control.

Chinese Navy = Facepalm.

Distance?

Peking is closest to the Moon!

I am using 'Peking' because they love history!

China is a peace loving nation.

She wants a 'piece' of every nation!
 

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How can a frigate with all modern sonar and depth sounding get aground?

Is it a modern ship or a tub from the KMT days?
Sir, this happen when you copy post others source code without permission..............:rofl:
 

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China caught red handed in the South China Sea

Chinese officials were caught Friday with their pants down when the Defense Ministry was forced to admit in a brief statement that a naval frigate has run aground on the south eastern edge of the Spratly Islands-- waters the Philippine government claims exclusive sovereignty over.
China caught red handed in the South China Sea | FP Passport

:rofl:
 

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Accordingly, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's seemingly innocuous proposal that "the nations of the region should work collaboratively and diplomatically to resolve disputes without coercion, without intimidation, without threat, and without use of force" was decried by the state-run China Daily as "inappropriate and ill-intentioned."
The journalist didnt get it! When Hillary asked the Chinese to act "without coercion, without intimidation, without threat, and without use of force", she was basically asking them not to communicate in the only forms of communication that the CCP is aware of. Obviously it ruffled their feathers!
 

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expose what? That is Chinese territory, we don't care what you think
Well, you may not care what we think.

But then the world does not care what China thinks.

Which is more effective - a single nation, China or the rest of the world?

China call itself the 'Middle Kingdom'.

Well stay in the middle and stop expanding all over the place.

Cancer is the thing that spreads rapidly!

If you do so, then you will ruin your history.
 
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The average depth of water around there is 12m or so, and the underwater part of the frigate is 3m in depth. :bplease:
 

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The average depth of water around there is 12m or so, and the underwater part of the frigate is 3m in depth. :bplease:
It is quite strange that China dont know the depth of their own sea area, this point prima facie proves that area in question does not belong to them. :rofl:
 

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The average depth of water around there is 12m or so, and the underwater part of the frigate is 3m in depth. :bplease:
It need at least 30m deep water for any ship of corvette or frigate or destroyer class to maneuver that is a protocol..

The capt of PLAN ship was reckless in this regard, even though Ship had sonars..

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May be he was little more like tiger lion like PLAN admiral.. ?
 

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The average depth of water around there is 12m or so, and the underwater part of the frigate is 3m in depth. :bplease:
I love the Chinese fascination with figure and their total disregard of reality.

There are three basic things you will need to learn in order to stay off the rocks:

How to gauge the height of the tide and state of the current in your location

How to identify hazards on a chart

How to plot your position on a chart so you know where you are in relation to the hazards

First of those basics:

knowing how much water is under your boat.

Address chart symbols and plotting positions,

One also needs to be aware of water level and any possible currents in their areas. Where the water level is abnormally low is just as dangerous as a rock on a tidal coastline.

Most coastal locations on earth have two high-water and two low-water tides each day; these are referred to as diurnal tides.

The chief cause of tides is the gravitational effect of the moon and to a lesser extent that of the sun. Depths marked on charts are at "mean lower low water," which involves an average of the lower of the two daily lows.

The point is, the actual depth of water is the amount marked on the chart plus the height of tide at a given time. In extreme astronomical or weather conditions you should be aware there could be even less water than marked on the chart.

Depthsounders are helpful in telling you what is directly under you, but you should have an understanding of how your depthsounder is calibrated. Is depth being measured from the sounder's transducer or has it been adjusted to measure depth from the lowest point of the keel or prop? Know how your sounder is calibrated.

Depthsounders look down but they can't look ahead—so slow down in tight quarters.

(from my hard disk)
 

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