Chinese Advisors Train Taliban!

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Weapons Migrate From China to Afghanistan
Chinese advisers are believed to be working with Afghan Taliban groups who are now in combat with NATO forces, prompting concerns that China might become the conduit for shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles, improved communications and additional small arms to the fundamentalist Muslim fighters.

A British military official contends that Chinese specialists have been seen training Taliban fighters in the use of infrared-guided surface-to-air missiles. This is supported by a May 13, 2008, classified U.S. State Department document released by WikiLeaks telling U.S. officials to confront Chinese officials about missile proliferation.

China is developing knock-offs of Russian-designed man-portable air defense missiles (manpads), including the QW-1 and later series models. The QW-1 Vanguard is an all-aspect, 35-lb. launch tube and missile that is reverse-engineered from the U.S. Stinger and the SA-16 Gimlet (9K310 Igla-1). China obtained SA-16s from Unita rebels in then-Zaire who had captured them from Angolan government forces. The 16g missiles have a slant range of 50,000 ft. The QW-1M is a variant that incorporates even more advanced SA-18 Grouse (9K38 Igla) technology.

So far, there has been a curious absence of manpad attacks on NATO aircraft in Afghanistan. One reason is that the Russian equipment still in place is out of date and effectively no longer usable, the British official says. Another may be that the possession of such a weapon is a status symbol, so owners are reluctant to use it. However, the introduction of new manpads could change that equation.

Although there have been no attacks using manpads, "we act as if they exist," notes the British officer. "We know they are out there," he says, alluding to the proliferation of increasingly advanced missiles on the black and gray markets.

In fact, NATO officials know they exist, at least in Iraq, according to the classified U.S. State Department document. U.S. officials were instructed to provide the Chinese government with pictures of QW-1 missiles found in Iraq and ask how such missiles were transferred.

"In April 2008, coalition forces recovered from a cache in Basra, Iraq, at least two Chinese-produced Iranian-supplied QW-1 manpads that we assess were provided by Iran to Iraqi Shia militants. The date of production for the recovered QW-1 systems is 2003, but it is not known when these particular launchers were transferred by China to Iran or when the launchers entered Iraq," the cable says. "Beijing has typically responded by asserting that its sales are in accordance with international law, that it requires end-users to sign agreements pledging not to retransfer the weapons, or—disingenuously in the judgment of [U.S. government] technical experts—that it cannot confirm that the weapons recovered by coalition forces in Iraq are actually Chinese in origin."

Talking points in the cable allege that Chinese-origin weapons have been sent to Afghanistan.

"Iran is the world's most active state sponsor of terrorism," the cable says. "We know that Iran has provided Chinese weapons to extremist groups in Iraq and Afghanistan that are using these weapons to kill Americans and Iraqis, something we take very seriously. Iran is not a responsible purchaser of military equipment. There is an unacceptably high risk that any military equipment sold to Iran, especially weapons like manpads, that are highly sought-after by terrorists, will be diverted to non-state actors who threaten U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanistan."

Other U.S. officials are less sure about the Chinese missile threat. Army officials told Aviation Week of an unsuccessful, multi-manpad attack against a U.S. helicopter in Iraq last year, but a senior intelligence official expressed doubt that Chinese aid to the Taliban has included weaponry. But he acknowledges that Chinese activities most certainly include intelligence gathering that could be of use in China's own internal conflicts with its restive Muslim populations. That analysis could project U.S. hopes, whether well-founded or not, that China will not become involved in weapons trade to insurgent groups.


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Chinese origin small arms are also being sent to Maoists and NE rebels. International pressure has to be brought on China to put better controls around how small arms and other weapons get transferred to rebel groups.
 

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AK47 can be found anywhere except the moon.guy...
 

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Good USA will get taste of their own medecine for what they did in 1980 with Russia payback time uncle SAM
 

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But then does not China say that it never interferes in the internal affairs of any country?

I await the piety, homilies and bogus hot air that they will spout to explain their being terrorists promoters.
 

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China has an interest in dealing with the Taliban. There could be many reasons for it.

1) Supply Taliban and make sure they are your friends and the Talibs friends AQ. That means you will not hurt us by supporting Xinjian Muslims in their struggle against Han China.
2) Once the US moves out, its likely Taliban comes back to power. China would love to have its friends there. Keeps India out.
3) Most importantly, After the US leaves and if Pakistan as a state was to fall, a Taliban controlled Pakhtun area means it can keep India off the area.

But then, Taliban has turned its back on the US who was instrumental in creating it. So no guarantee that it would not happen with the Chinese. Once a treacherous is always a treacherous person.
 

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'Terrorism should not be linked to any nation' : China (Wen Jiabao)

ISLAMABAD: Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao on Sunday announced that China will fulfill all its promises made to Pakistan.

Addressing the Parliament on the last day of his three-day visit to Pakistan, PM Jiabao strongly voiced China's stance against terrorism and said it must not be linked to any particular country or religion.

"There should be no dual standards in this regard," he said and called for making efforts for addressing the real reasons that lead to terrorism.

"China's stance is clear and consistent. China, while standing along with Pakistan and the international community, was making sincere efforts to promote cooperation in this regard," he said.

He said that "China and Pakistan ties will get deeper, closer and stronger."

Jiabao, who is the first Chinese and sixth world dignitary to address the joint sitting, began his speech by greeting the parliamentarians "Asalam-o-Alaikum". He paid a glowing tribute to the Pakistani people and said that the people of this nation were hard workers and Pakistan was a very important country in the Muslim world.

Premier Wen said Pakistan was passing through a difficult phase as it was facing many challenges and problems, however, he said that he was confident that the government and people of Pakistan were determined to tackle these and would move ahead.

"The government and people of Pakistan are united and moving forward to safeguard solidarity, prosperity and sovereignty of the country," he added.

During his speech the premier also extended scholarship offers for 500 Pakistani students.

Opposition leader Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan thanked the Chinese Prime Minister and said that Pakistan was united in its views on China and that all political parties agreed on Pakistan-China friendship.

Jiabao left for China on Sunday after completing his three-day visit. The Chinese Premier and his delegation were seen off at the airport by Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani, members of the federal cabinet and other civil and military officials.

http://www.dawn.com/2010/12/19/terrorism-should-not-be-linked-to-any-nation-chinese-pm.html
 

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It's pretty funny, China is the only government in the world that believes Dalai lama is responsible for terrorism, while Pakistan is not :emot0:
 

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Karzai may loose hold sooner or later!!! So china is acting pally with the taliban to win over them and take control of all the natural resources!!!
 

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A food for thought and question for Mr. JinBao

What about when the nation itself accepts that it has used terrorism as tool as its state policy? Then should it be not related to that nation and let it go....
 

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While the whole investment friendly countries are shying away from Pakistan, what makes the Chinese invest so much in Pakistan?

Pakistan is the last leverage China has against India. Even China knows that exporting terrorism is the numero uno foreign policy of Pakistan w.r.t India. And while globally, there are talks about a resurgent India overtaking Chinese economy sometime in the near future, this has rattled the topmost echelons of CCP. For a country(China) which is closed to the entire world and where people has no choice in conceiving more than one offspring, it will but generate chaos if Chinese economy has to see doomsday as seen by the West now. So, it is always in Chinese interests that Pakistan sponsored terrorists and internal insurgencies continue to bleed India, so that GoI diverts its attention from our economy to the evils that China sponsors via Pakistan, and hence maintains its economy way ahead of India. And hence the statement 'Terrorism should not be linked to any nation'.
 
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