- Apr 5, 2010
Indian and Russian relationship are in separable in times to come"¦ Russia has been a trusted friend to India for last 50 years and will continue to be so"¦ I see a closer co operation between the two in Nuclear & Aerospace sector apart from Defense"¦U do realize how Russia teased India in http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...kramaditya-adm-gorshkov-aircraft-carrier.html ?
Russians want another $700 mn for Gorshkov - Indian Express Delay, accident, delay, more money, delay...
Strategic interests? Shut off at India's request?:fishing:
China will not dare to base its submarines in Gwadar or Sri Lanka... or else it will risk giving away its acoustic signatures to India...
Yes.A pipeline running through Pakistan?
How many submarines has China got?
The assumption is that Russia and Kazakhistan are vassal state which will jump to Chinese bidding and ramp up their exports to China would be too far fetched.You do realize that the 8% and 4% can be ramped up quite dramatically if needed, right? Currently, Chinese pipelines and railroads to Russia and Kazakhstan stand at 20 and 25% utilization, respectively, and more infrastructure is in the planning stages.
As for land based protection for IOR shipping, Gwadar is much closer to IOR energy lanes than any of India's ports are. Even if China can't offload any oil there, China could certainly use it as a staging point for a heavy contingent of submarines - subs, that in a time of war, could be loosed to raid Indian shipping in the IOR at will.
When was the last time you heard of a Chinese Kilo on patrol? They are a none factor since they won't submit to the stipulation of overhauling them in Russia. They have torn two of them apart for reverse engineering.that will be taken care by this baby
by the way what it has to do with russian subs aren't you guys making your own subs if it is kilo class is that you mean
Absolutely true!! The Chinese subs that have been picked up on SONAR by the USN and IN are their indigenous nuke subs, and they are said to be easy to detect(read easy to kill).When was the last time you heard of a Chinese Kilo on patrol? They are a none factor since they won't submit to the stipulation of overhauling them in Russia. They have torn two of them apart for reverse engineering.
Right now Europe is more pissed off at Germany than the UK or France, because of the former hacking a resolution against China on the tariff row.Given how much the French are pissing off Germany and the UK over Chinese solar panels, this is statement is more realistic than it looks
i mean the same since his post didn't make any sense to me when he said advance Russian subsWhen was the last time you heard of a Chinese Kilo on patrol? They are a none factor since they won't submit to the stipulation of overhauling them in Russia. They have torn two of them apart for reverse engineering.
Their nuke subs are worthless, the noisiest power-plants ever created. Kilo is the quietest sub they have, but they can't operate them because they won't make the overhaul deal with Russia or get their techs trained. It is so many billions wasted, all they really got from it was to tear it apart.Absolutely true!! The Chinese subs that have been picked up on SONAR by the USN and IN are their indigenous nuke subs, and they are said to be easy to detect(read easy to kill).
Navy's newest submarines abandoned the project "Lada"Russia to sell Lada class submarines to China: reportï½œPoliticsï½œNewsï½œWantChinaTimes.com
This is what I was referring to.
Karachi and Gwadar would be linked by road and rail with Kashgar, China via Khunjrab, to boost regional trade.
He said the Chinese premier had asked him to constitute a task force for carrying out the feasibility of the projects and assured to form a similar team in China, so that both the teams could work in cohesion
New PM Nawaz Sharif: Pakistan-China Econ Ties to Begin and End at Gwadar | PakSinica
The Kashgar-Gwadar road and rail links are reported to be included in China's 11th 5-year plan
Then what's the use of 3 trillion $$$ forex? Waiting for it to rot in treasury bonds?Brilliant idea but with falling Chinese economic growth rate, are you ready to fit the bill?? What happens when the indigenous peoples in that region starts blowing up the rails tracks??
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