China's Sinopharm vaccine 'most unsafe in world' with 73 side effects Side effects of China's vaunted Sinopharm vaccine include loss of vision

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Again, racial targeting BS stories. There were little to no Chinese tourists in India. Especially not after the Wuhan lockdown.
I don't think Chinese had travel restrictions after Wuhan episode too for a quite long time. If don't, you need to provide evidence.

There still are plenty of Chinese tourists visiting India every year, enough of cases being arrested for unlawful activities.
If they are found involved in any illegal activity, there would be nothing racist in calling them out or arresting.
And I'm pretty sure that any Chinese in India would have been pointed out and arrested considering how rabidly anti-Chinese tgat Indians are.
This rant doesn't matter here. Race and ethnicity isn't a concept in India and Europeans to Asians to African visitors in India are nothing more different looking people, not even bothered in major cities.

Indians anyway can't differentiate between Chinese and Japanese. So this rant too is a piece of meaningless frustration.
Simply label everyone a racist in any irrelevant context of any damn argument and dodge everything. Isn't that quite easy? Issues between China and India are pure political and if you think Indians have anything racial against Asians, you either don't know anything or deliberately acting like a noob.
 

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Another refrain very often heard on message boards involving China and Covid, is that Indians are either following "their masters"( meaning the US and/or UK), have some great nostalgia for their past rulers( the UK), or are seeking great favour from the US, by criticising China or facing it on the borders. Utter rubbish. If these aren't outright desperado apologists for China, it must be some learned or tutored behaviour from the CCP, to denigrate India. They have this junk all ready, for events like these.
 

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I don't think Chinese had travel restrictions after Wuhan episode too for a quite long time. If don't, you need to provide evidence.

There still are plenty of Chinese tourists visiting India every year, enough of cases being arrested for unlawful activities.
If they are found involved in any illegal activity, there would be nothing racist in calling them out or arresting.

This rant doesn't matter here. Race and ethnicity isn't a concept in India and Europeans to Asians to African visitors in India are nothing more different looking people, not even bothered in major cities.

Indians anyway can't differentiate between Chinese and Japanese. So this rant too is a piece of meaningless frustration.
Simply label everyone a racist in any irrelevant context of any damn argument and dodge everything. Isn't that quite easy? Issues between China and India are pure political and if you think Indians have anything racial against Asians, you either don't know anything or deliberately acting like a noob.
Thanks @Indx TechStyle for answering on behalf of me.

As i said earlier, Racism is the pet dialogue taught in their propaganda lessons...when nothing works cry racism against china .. as if chinese are made of pure milk ... having worked with them, i know u will not find more racism species in the universe than chinese with their new found false sense of superiority .. But in reality , they are the worst of the lot.. be it as colleagues or travellers... Some body rightly said.. money can give u brains and respect.. u still got to earn them !!!!!!!!!!
 

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Beijing paid for this?



‘The Lancet’ report on Coronavirus tragedy in India – ‘PM Modi’s work unforgivable, government take responsibility for mistakes’


Yes it was written by bat eater Chinese.
 

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Yes it was written by bat eater Chinese.
One common link between "Ola hu uber followers / chinese CCP followers / Pappu followers / AAPIYA"S / Leftists & Khangressi's " is that Logic and fact based arguments do not work with them.
 

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I don't think Chinese had travel restrictions after Wuhan episode too for a quite long time. If don't, you need to provide evidence.

There still are plenty of Chinese tourists visiting India every year, enough of cases being arrested for unlawful activities.
If they are found involved in any illegal activity, there would be nothing racist in calling them out or arresting.
Very few Chinese don't visit India in the best of times.

After Wuhan was locked down, India blocked flights from Hong Kong and China.



There would been no new Chinese tourists to India after Jan 31, 2020.

Those stories about Chinese people spitting and infecting Indians are nothing but racist lies trying to paint the simplist but ugliest picture possible. It is comic-book like in its attempts.

No Chinese would want to go to India unless forced by a company and no Indian would allow a Chinese person (who sticks out like a sore thumb) to take two steps in India without harassment much less go amongst the Indian masses spitting and infecting them.
 

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They keep quoting propaganda articles written by themselves lol.
Actually most of the articles are from Western and other non-Chinese sources.

Chinese vaccines are global and are reported in their local papers!

From vaccination drives in China to Domican Republic to Cambodia to Thailand to Tamil Nadu ...

Chinese vaccines are there!


China is vaccinating almost 14m people a day
The fastest pace in the world.
By Bloomberg News 17 May 2021 08:04





 

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Yes it was written by bat eater Chinese.
It betrays the real reason behind Chinese Communist Party's biological weapon attack against India. Along with damaging the economy and killing essential people in every sector, the CCP virus' goal is regime change in India to install CCP-funded pappu from Kangress, just as the CCP virus was indirectly responsible for regime change in the US with a more CCP-friendly administration that the CCP has leverage over. CCP doesn't need its own agents to spread virus in India, since it can do it through the terrorists from its favorite pet Pakistan. The second wave was triggered by a triple mutant variant that was most likely spread in India by ISI terrorists, at a time when cases were much lower than in other parts of the world, and hence unlikely to produce a triple mutant variant in India naturally. Following this, the identification by CCP-loving globalist leftist media of the virus as "the Indian variant," while refusing to call the CCP bioweapon "the Wuhan/China/CCP virus," and even helping CCP cover up the fact that the virus is a bioweapon leaked (maybe even intentionally) from Wuhan Institute of Virology; all these things smell of a conspiracy to hurt Indian economy and current Indian government, while preserving the gravy train from China which only the wealthy globalists benefit from.
 

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Very few Chinese don't visit India in the best of times.

After Wuhan was locked down, India blocked flights from Hong Kong and China.
Why you love to respond like an idiot everytime? I'm not trying to boast off having tourists (nor I consider it a cause of national conservatism pride) but stating what Chinese tourists do (Chinese tourists being in small numbers here seems to be some kind of achievement for you).

Chinese being involved in problematic activities in India has nothing to do with how many Chinese tourists visit India every year.

It also accounts for how many Chinese were in India at that time as well as that flights were opened with China when declared situations "normalised" while virus started picking up pace in India.

Very few Chinese tourists visiting India ≠ 0
As well as, "Having no proof of COVID-19 origin in China" too is a logicless one. Since, first COVID-19 was found in China and nowhere else. Just as we think first humans came from Africa until we find something older than that elsewhere. So unless its proven and verified and record that COVID-19 was elsewhere before it came to China, first pandemic in China is proof that COVID is of Chinese origin (it being natural or manmade is a political conflict).

This is not racism, this is simple rationalism which you don't like situationally. Sooner you realise it, better for you.
 

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China exported 265M vaccine doses with contracts to exporting 440M more already! And many hundreds of millions if not billions more to come with Sinopharm (and soon, Sinovac) in COVAX.

At home, China has innoculated 400M people and the rate is going up! They jabbed 100M in the last 9 days!!!!

China has created the world's dominant vaccine industry practically in one year's time. Producing, selling and using more vaccines than the rest of the world combined!!!

So amazing!



"So far the country has shipped about 265 million Covid vaccine doses, more than all other nations combined, with commitments to provide an impressive 440 million more, according to Airfinity Ltd., a science information and analytics company. Other leading powers haven’t kept up.
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China is about to get another big boost. After clearing Western-made shots, the World Health Organization recently authorized the vaccine made by China’s Sinopharm Group Co. A nod for one from Sinovac Biotech Ltd. is expected soon. This will allow Chinese shots to flow to dozens of developing nations through Covax, the global vaccine initiative, which has managed to ship only 68 million of the 2 billion doses it hopes to send out by yearend. “China is going to be a critically important partner in the long run,” says Richard Hatchett, chief executive officer of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, one of the groups leading Covax.
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As vaccination hesitancy slows inoculation rates in some Western countries, China is going into overdrive.

Over 400 million doses of Covid-19 vaccines have now been administered in China, according to the National Health Commission -- more than in the United States, the United Kingdom and Germany combined.

Of course, 400 million doses doesn't even cover half of China's population of 1.4 billionpeople, but the vaccination rate is speeding up. Chinese authorities announced the first 100 million people had been vaccinated on March 27. After that, it took another 26 days to reach 200 million, and then 17 days to hit 300 million.

The latest 100 million doses were given in just nine days."
 

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China’s Unreliable COVID Vaccines Are under Fire
On the menu today: A country that has done gangbusters at vaccinating its citizens finds itself with a significant outbreak among people who were already vaccinated — raising questions of just how much good the Chinese vaccine actually does; the pause on the use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine “made it harder for enthusiasm to bloom among the skeptical,” in the eyes of one analyst; and an undiplomatic choice for U.S. ambassador to Japan.

The World Grows Increasingly Reliant on Unreliable Chinese COVID Vaccines

Say it with me, China enthusiasts: “Vaccine diplomacy” is only a masterstroke if the vaccine works. Otherwise, you might as well just send other countries syringes full of soy sauce. As the April 21 Morning Jolt observed, “the Chinese-made vaccine works about as well as the Chinese-made personal protective equipment: It’s really hit-and-miss.

The Chinese vaccines appear to sort of work, sometimes. And if you’re in a situation like India is currently, with COVID-19 deaths around 4,000 per day, or afraid your country could end up in a situation like India’s, the Chinese vaccine probably looks a lot more appealing than nothing.

Today, the Wall Street Journal reports that the “Seychelles, which has vaccinated a higher proportion of its population against coronavirus than any other country, is struggling to contain a new surge in COVID-19 infections, raising questions about the effectiveness of a Chinese shot the island nation has administered to the majority of its vaccinated residents . . . According to the health ministry, more than one third of new active cases are people who are fully vaccinated. Authorities in the Seychelles haven’t said how many of those cases arose among people vaccinated with the Chinese shot.”

The thing is though, the signs have been there all along.

As I noted last week, the Chinese government insists that the COVID-19 pandemic effectively ended in their country last February, that their deaths and case numbers have been astoundingly low since early last spring, and that none of the variants have had any impact on their country in any significant way.

The Chinese government is so committed to this narrative that it said it could not conduct the usual testing of the effectiveness of the vaccines, because the virus was so rare in China: “China’s vaccines have had to be trialed elsewhere because the country didn’t have enough transmission itself to conduct them, says George Gao, who heads the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention in Beijing.” As of this date, there is still no public large-scale trial results of the Sinopharm or SinoVac vaccines among the Chinese people.

China approved the Sinopharm and SinoVac vaccines for emergency use back in July. The Sinopharm vaccine is currently being administered into arms in 38 countries, mostly across Asia, Africa, and the Middle East, and the Sinovac vaccine is being administered in 24 countries, including Brazil, Mexico, Turkey, and Ukraine.

The pandemic in India is so severe, the government there has halted exports of the Indian-produced version of the AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccine, called CoviShield. With India’s exports suddenly no longer available, countries such as Sri Lanka and Bangladesh are turning to the Chinese vaccines. For a lot of countries, the choice is not between the iffy Chinese vaccines and the more reliable Pfizer or Moderna ones. The choice is between the iffy Chinese vaccines and nothing.

The best news for Sinovac vaccine came from a study in Turkey with more than 10,000 participants that began in September and ended in March, and found the efficacy of 83.5 percent. That’s not up in the 90s like Pfizer, but numbers like that suggest the Sinovac vaccine is more than sufficiently effective for large-scale use. (Remember, “90 percent efficacy” doesn’t mean 90 people wouldn’t catch the virus and 10 would. It indicates “a 90 percent reduction in disease occurrence among the vaccinated group, or a 90 percent reduction from the number of cases you would expect if they have not been vaccinated.” If you had two samples of 100 people, you would not expect all 100 people in the placebo group to catch the disease.)

The bad news is that another large-scale study of the Sinovac vaccine on the other side of the world told a dramatically different story: On January 12, Brazilian scientists “announced that China’s Sinovac vaccine was far less effective than originally touted, at just 50.38 percent effective against COVID-19 in late-stage trials, nearly 30 percentage points lower than initial data showed.”

When two studies research the effectiveness of a vaccine and come back with dramatically different results, researchers start wondering if they measured infections and efficacy differently, or whether one study involved a more contagious and virulent version of the virus than another. Maybe the Brazilian study had a lower threshold for “infected” than the Turkish one did. And it’s worth keeping in mind that the primary goal in fighting COVID-19 is first to avoid death and second to avoid hospitalization to prevent overwhelming the medical system. A vaccine that keeps someone out of the hospital probably is indeed “good enough.”

But in early April, the head of China’s CDC publicly acknowledged that the Sinovac vaccine is just not effective enough, and then quickly backtracked a day later. Over in Cameroon, some health workers said they were reluctant to take the coronavirus vaccines donated by China because they doubt the drug’s efficacy.

The World Health Organization announced a few days ago that it was approving emergency use of Sinopharm, “the first time that any Chinese-made vaccine received emergency authorization from the WHO.” While I enjoy denouncing the WHO as a puppet of the Chinese government as much as the next guy, this decision does fit within the organization’s previously stated parameters of a threshold of 50 percent: “The 50 percent efficacy threshold set for COVID-19 vaccines is because COVID-19 was deemed such a severe disease, that if a vaccine is only 50 percent effective, it’s still worth using.” Even if the Brazil study represented the true efficacy of the Sinovac vaccine, it just barely cleared the threshold at 50.38 percent efficacy.
 

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China exported 265M vaccine doses with contracts to exporting 440M more already! And many hundreds of millions if not billions more to come with Sinopharm (and soon, Sinovac) in COVAX.

At home, China has innoculated 400M people and the rate is going up! They jabbed 100M in the last 9 days!!!!

China has created the world's dominant vaccine industry practically in one year's time. Producing, selling and using more vaccines than the rest of the world combined!!!

So amazing!



"So far the country has shipped about 265 million Covid vaccine doses, more than all other nations combined, with commitments to provide an impressive 440 million more, according to Airfinity Ltd., a science information and analytics company. Other leading powers haven’t kept up.
...
China is about to get another big boost. After clearing Western-made shots, the World Health Organization recently authorized the vaccine made by China’s Sinopharm Group Co. A nod for one from Sinovac Biotech Ltd. is expected soon. This will allow Chinese shots to flow to dozens of developing nations through Covax, the global vaccine initiative, which has managed to ship only 68 million of the 2 billion doses it hopes to send out by yearend. “China is going to be a critically important partner in the long run,” says Richard Hatchett, chief executive officer of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, one of the groups leading Covax.
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As vaccination hesitancy slows inoculation rates in some Western countries, China is going into overdrive.

Over 400 million doses of Covid-19 vaccines have now been administered in China, according to the National Health Commission -- more than in the United States, the United Kingdom and Germany combined.

Of course, 400 million doses doesn't even cover half of China's population of 1.4 billionpeople, but the vaccination rate is speeding up. Chinese authorities announced the first 100 million people had been vaccinated on March 27. After that, it took another 26 days to reach 200 million, and then 17 days to hit 300 million.

The latest 100 million doses were given in just nine days."
how is the epidemic now in mainland taiwan cities like wuhan Beijing and Shanghai
 

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No offense, but the 2nd wave of India, is mainly because of weak central government, voting activities, undisciplined people ... those factors are mixed and a bomb exploded.

It almost the same reason why India lost competition on economic with China for past 4 decades.



Op-Ed: India’s catastrophic COVID-19 surge is driven by hubris and mismanagement

It's so funny when Chinese call out that in india virus is spreading because of unprepared Government lack of facilities. Yes we don't have world's best medical infrastructure yes we don't have the best economy. We can't shut people in the house and seal the houses like china so that people die inside those houses.

But I'm gonna tell you one thing we are not going down because of this Chinese biological virus.

India economy is so weak that Chinese telecom industry is literally in tears after they were banned from 5G tender.


PLA is soo strong that it can only show aggressive maneuvers when a country is suffering from deadly pandemic and have it's resources stretched.

Chinese are so disciplined that they obeyed CCP and took different flights across the globe to spread Chinese virus soo that everyone can live with this curse. Chinese were the original super spreader they didn't closed the flights hide the virus from the world and even for months flights from Wuhan were in the air and bullied those nations which closed the flights. This is how civilized Chinese are?


When Nipah virus outbreak happened in india we didn't gifted the world that virus instead of that we broke it down. But advanced super power china manged to become super spreader.
 
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how is the epidemic now in mainland taiwan cities like wuhan Beijing and Shanghai
Wuhan is partying. No cases for months.


Beijing and Shanghai had district lockdowns after outbreaks of with a few dozen people but the disease was strangled pretty quickly just like outbreaks in Harbin, Yunnan, Qingdao and other places.

China has a zero tolerance policy in place that assumes outbreaks will inevitiably happen but needs to be driven to zero. The key is moving fast with a wide net to snuff out the spread as quickly as possible.

Obviously a lot of people will get quarantined with the wide net even with a few infections but the system works.

 
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