China vows to expand military cooperation with Maldives

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Maldives seek to buy a new homeland | Environment | The Guardian

now there's a link and from an unbiased source ; the guardian of uk

on one had the maldives are considering land from india then theyre inviting forces unfriendly to the country theyre considering asking for land ?? ridiculous logic i'd say .

noteworthy that they didnt ask china for land
 

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LF, the map doesn't demonstrate anything. It still does not show that the US actively tried to stop the leasing of Marao Island to China. If anything, it is the opposite of what you say, since Admiral Keating of US Navy Command encourages a Chinese presence.


They are buying land in India not exclusively. In Australia as well. It is an issue of proximity.
 

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koji China has nothing in maldives and never will i'll end it here.
I showed you a link before that China leased the Marao Island until 2025 and the base will be online at 2010. You STILL have not shown me a link otherwise. Giving me a link about land purchases in India does not prove otherwise.
 
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no it's not, maldives has a defense pact with india, that deal with china is dead, the article is wrong.
 
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India bringing Maldives into its security net


India bringing Maldives into its security net


Thursday , Aug 13, 2009

When Defence Minister A K Antony visits Maldives later this month, he will start the process to bring the island country into India’s security grid. The move comes after the moderate Islamic nation approached New Delhi earlier this year over fears that one of its island resorts could be taken over by terrorists given its lack of military assets and surveillance capabilities.

Antony, who is expected to visit Maldives on August 22, will be accompanied by senior Navy officers who will share India’s experience of handling security in the Andaman Nicobar islands chain.

• India will permanently base two helicopters in the country to enhance its surveillance capabilities and ability to respond swiftly to threats. One helicopter from the Coast Guard is likely to be handed over during Antony’s visit while another from the Navy will be cleared for transfer shortly.

• Maldives has coastal radars on only two of its 26 atolls. India will help set up radars on all 26 for seamless coverage of approaching vessels and aircraft.

• The coastal radar chain in Maldives will be networked with the Indian coastal radar system. India has already undertaken a project to install radars along its entire coastline. The radar chains of the two countries will be interlinked and a central control room in India’s Coastal Command will get a seamless radar picture.

• The Indian Coast Guard (ICG) will carry out regular Dornier sorties over the island nation to look out for suspicious movements or vessels. n The Southern Naval Command will overlook the inclusion of Maldives into the Indian security grid.

• Military teams from Maldives will visit the tri-services Andaman Nicobar Command (ANC) to observe how India manages security and surveillance of the critical island chain.

While the Maldives government had expressed keen interest in joining the Indian security grid during talks between top political leaders, the proposal took off after a low-key visit to the island nation on June 30 by National Security Advisor M K Narayanan and the then Defence and Foreign Secretaries Vijay Singh and Shivshankar Menon.

While the two countries already have a security cooperation agreement against sea-borne terrorism and piracy, the framework of a detailed agreement to include Maldives into the Indian coastal security grid was drawn up during the visit. It will be an exclusive security arrangement with India and the island nation will not approach other regional countries for similar agreements.

Sources said that the decision was triggered largely by fears of a hostage crisis in Maldives whose economy is driven largely by tourism. The worst threat scenario drawn up by the Maldives government was the takeover of a remote island resort by a terrorist group.

In the past, the Indian Navy has transferred a fast attack craft to the island nation. The INS Tillanchang was gifted to the country in 2006 by the then Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee. Besides, a large number of officers of the armed forces of the island nation are given training in various officers training academies in India.

The Indian Army also conducts a joint exercise ‘Ekueuvrin’ with the Maldivian National Defence Forces on counter-terrorism while the Indian Coast Guard conducts an exercise on maritime rescue operations and patrolling of seas around Maldives called ‘Dosti’.

In 1988, India helped foil a coup attempt being assisted by Tamil rebels after it launched Operation Cactus on receiving a distress message from the then President, Maumoon Abdul Gayoom.
 

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no it's not, maldives has a defense pact with india, that deal with china is dead, the article is wrong.
Asking India to help patrol it's waters does not mean the country is restricted in diplomatic or military actions. Just in the same that Japan is not restricted to the US in militart exercises.

The Maldives, in my opinion, is just milking both sides for maximum benefit. IT should be noted that in 2001, the Maldives sought a military exercise with China.
 

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Koji, you have provided some obscure article from 4 years ago that sounds more like an opinion piece than a news article.

The Defense News article I posted clearly says:

Maldives has an India-First policy, says Vijay Sakhuja, a director at the Indian Council of World Affairs here.

"Maldives has emphatically denied that there are Chinese naval facilities on any of its island territories and assured [us] that it has no plans [to allow any] in the future. Instead, it seeks an exclusive security arrangement with India and does not wish to approach regional and extraregional powers for such agreements," said Sakhuja.
Would you be kind enough to refute the above by providing any RECENT, CREDIBLE links about the Marao island lease to China?

Thanks.
 

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China never had and never ever will be able to have anything from Maldives.... India has full control of that issue as India is already in talks with Maldives to setup radar stations for In and connectin already existuing radar facilities of Maldives with Indian Navy's so that it is much simpler to track any suspecious movement in the seas.....
 

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:rofl:

Ok, after doing some research, it seems that Koji might have been the (willing?) victim of a hoax. There is no such island by the name of "Marao" in the Maldives, and consequently, no Chinese base in the Maldives. A news report referring to Marao in first appeared in 2001, and was a total fabrication........but it seems that certain posters will grasp at straws as long as they can find one to beat India with. :p
 

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Malidives rely on India for a lot of stuff, I feel India should not let China make Inroads there. It will prove to be dangerous because lot of Mali citizens are in Kerala and they overstay. these People can be used to create terror if China supports Anti India activities. Again this is my personal View.
Maldive can do anything they want.
Maldive need tourists which india can't offer cause India has tropical sceneries.
 
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It is the time for China to buildup oeversea base now?

Why not? With US base in Mid Asia, Japan, surrounding china, should china be trapped without doing anything?

China need aircraft carriers too. The sooner the better!
 

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Do you have a source?

Not some unrelated one like you usually post, but one that directly supports your claim that the US stopped the Maldives from leasing one of the Islands for a navy base.
It is obvious , why us will allow them to come near to their base .
 

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It is the time for China to buildup oeversea base now?

Why not? With US base in Mid Asia, Japan, surrounding china, should china be trapped without doing anything?

China need aircraft carriers too. The sooner the better!
At the most it can get base near pakistan or some african country . Indian ocean is dominated by india & us
 

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China is very ambitious and they want to take over US in military and ecomomic field, but their obsession with India is going to hurt them dearly, all the polices to appease India's neighbour against India, wont work in long run.

That way they will enter into contest with India, that is good news for us. USA too see India as counter weight against China, therefore in comming years we are going to see this cat and mouse game in the region.
 

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China is very ambitious and they want to take over US in military and ecomomic field, but their obsession with India is going to hurt them dearly, all the polices to appease India's neighbour against India, wont work in long run.

That way they will enter into contest with India, that is good news for us. USA too see India as counter weight against China, therefore in comming years we are going to see this cat and mouse game in the region.
Yes,USA want to use india as a counter weight against China.But what the cost of india being a tool?
 

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Antony hails India, Maldives ties

NEW DELHI, 22 AUG: The defence minister, Mr AK Antony (in photo top), today said India and Maldives are a “shining model of how two countries of differing sizes can cooperate with each other as equals”.
Speaking at the concluding session of the India-Maldives Friendship Week at Male last night, he said: “Both countries have been extremely conscious of each other’s sovereignty and territorial integrity and, at the same time, realise that their destinies are intertwined. Both countries have always emphasised the mutuality of interest and support each other in numerous ways ~ at the bilateral, regional and international level. India is proud of this partnership and engagement and deeply value the friendship of the people of Maldives. In this quest, the people of Maldives can always count on India as a sincere and well-meaning friend.”
Referring to the democratic transformation that has taken place in Maldives in recent years, Mr Antony said India would be happy to assist Maldives in any way that is possible in strengthening democracy and democratic institutions that are being built in the country. He said India would like to share views on issues like climate change, economic development as well as problem areas such as drug trafficking, extremism and the threat of terrorism that is afflicting the region as well as the larger world
Meanwhile, President Nasheed (in photo) has agreed to a request from the Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh to be the chief guest at the Technology Development and Transfer Meeting on Climate Change to be held here on 22 October. The request of the Prime Minister was conveyed by Mr Antony to Mr Nasheed.
Mr Antony was in Maldives on a two-day visit as part of the exercise to have closer cooperation in defence and other security related matters specially in the wake of the increasing threat of terrorist strikes from the sea as also the growing problem of piracy and drug trafficking.
http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=2&theme=&usrsess=1&id=265635
 
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Yes,USA want to use india as a counter weight against China.But what the cost of india being a tool?
yeah, americans are good at sowing discords

indians regard that they share the same values with americans, but are they the ally of the US? no.

the US are cooperating with both pakistan and india, they are also afraid of the imbalance of the sub-continent

they make pakistan and india check each other

and they sow discords
 

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